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April 28, 2017 10:20 PM UTC

Weekend Open Thread

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    3. DIDN'T HE CALL NAFTA A DISASTA? I am not imagining this right? He promised like a million times he would rip it up?

      'I was all set to terminate': Inside Trump's sudden shift on NAFTA

      Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue showed the President a map of the United States that illustrated the areas that would be hardest hit, particularly from agriculture and manufacturing losses, and highlighting that many of those states and counties were “Trump country” communities that had voted for the president in November. “It shows that I do have a very big farmer base, which is good,” Trump recalled. “They like Trump, but I like them, and I’m going to help them.”

      1. Yeah, but he's a bully. Especially when it comes to money. Stand up to a bully and he’ll back down every time. Now we have to stand up to him on repealing the Wall Street reforms. He wants to rip them all up so we can have another melt-down for him and his wealthy pals to profit from. I wonder how much he made on that catastrophe.

        1. Here ya go, skinny.  Der Führer giddy about the market crash:

          Trump in 2007: ‘I’m Excited’ for Housing Market Crash

          "The real estate markets crashed. Now, I don't want to blame the real estate markets, because I always made a lot of money in bad markets. I love bad markets. You can do very well in a bad market," he said. 

          And that was the exact advice he gave followers of Trump University a year later, framing the next housing bubble — at that time, still just a theoretical risk posed by analysts — as a "remarkable opportunity."

  2. To commemorate Day 100 and the degradation of our environment which it has brought, Mother Nature has inflicted us with a rare late April snowstorm.

        1. It snowed on our wedding day, May 4th, 26 years ago with big wet flakes gently wafting down outside the Brown Palace where we were having our reception.  It made for a picturesque ending to a memorable day 🙂

          2. yes, That made me happy, Davie. There's an old Southern tradition about rain on your wedding day: Every drop that falls is a tear the bride will never shed. I wonder if it works for snowflakes? 

  3. 100 days …  Are our three stooges in a drunken stooper? Or did they get locked in Grammys basement and fell victim to the new net neutrality regs and lost their interweb connection? Time to celebrate 🎉 

     

      1. Another big lie from Goebbels boy.  The leaks and endless FBI investigations found no illegal activity by Hillary.  Now the Fart Joke administration?  You guys gonna visit Flynn in prison or just pardon him?   How about Manafort?   Come on, Goebbels boy, tell us.

        1. Yeah, Gerbils has got a tough job.  His only defense of the Buffoon-in-Chief and his Band of Bozos are stale crumbs from his Debunked Stories Archives.

          Here's a quick summary of Dear Leader's first 100 days:

        2. Did you see the funny today, V? The Yam didn't bother to vet the guy Pres. Obama fired (Flynn) because the Obama administration had already done it.

  6. Went to the climate march.  Even in the snow…..thousands there.

    By the way, maybe AC knows….do we get extra duty pay for being there on a snow day.  Still don't know where I go to get paid for all these events I've been going to.  Hmmm…

    1. doremi, good on you for marching. I didn't make it to Greeley for the Climate march yesterday. Don't stress about the haters calling you a communist or a "watermelon" (green on the outside, red on the inside).

      The tactic of blaming and shaming protesters is as old as history, and has never proved successful in the long run.

      Hoover called the WWI bonus marchers  Communist agitators. My father saw the thugs come in and destroy the bonus marcher shantytown.

      The women marching to protest the 1911 Triangle shirtwaist factory fire, along with most of the 146 victims, were called Jewish agitators. Most were poor immigrant Jewish women with children.

      Skip forward a few decades, and civil rights marchers, sit-in activists, and protesters were called Communists and outside agitators.  Racist sites with White House allies still repeat this.

      Women who marched for equal rights or access to contraception and abortion were called "dykes" or "bra-burners'.

      Vietnam war protesters were also shamed as Communist plants.

      Everyone who has ever stepped outside the bounds of their prescribed social role or questioned authority has been blamed and shamed, named as an exile, an outcast, as someone "not like us". When in reality, the vast majority of protesters are exactly like us.

      No matter how much the Old Right or the New Right or the alt-right froths about "Communist agitators", or "Paid protesters",  people understand that these are their neighbors and co-workers and families, trying to make the world better.  Besides, the real, entrenched state Communists are all Trump's allies now. That's pretty clear.

       

    1. While I disagree with the Post's fanatical opposition to the death penalty, I have also said many times that Hickenlooper's attempt to have it both ways on this issue simply offended both sides.   The notion of putting an individual's fate up to public vote is a repellant one.  Historically, there is one famous precedent when Pilate said he would spare either Jesus or Barabbas.   The people decided: "Give us Barabbas."

      Not the best outcome.   Capital punishment is an issue for the courts and/or legislatures.   Mob rule should play no part in such decisions.

      1. The last execution that I agreed with was Timothy McVey's.  That it was carried out via the Federal courts and prison system for such an extreme and heinous crime felt to me that justice was served. 

        Not so much with the states (and often, local districts — lookin' at you Killer George Brauchler) which exemplify the erratic, arbitrary and racist history that to me fits the description of cruel and unusual punishment.

        1. Absolutely, Z.  But then he'd have to choose a side, and he hates that!  Incidentally, he can commute to life without parole but can't enforce that.  A future governor could reduce Dunlap's sentence or release him.  The power is one-way : a gov can reduce but not increase a sentence.  

            1. Not really.   Victims are dead and buried, passions fade.  Dunlop becomes physical wreck and after a half century in prison, he's given a compassionate release.  His victims, sadly, get no such mercy.  And what does I O W mean?

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                1. Paul Crump to name one, Illinois killer championed by great lawyer Louis Nizer.  Technically, his sentence was cut to 199 years, not lwop, if you think that makes a difference.  An important case in the capital punishment debate because of Nizer's argument that he rehabilitated himself behind bars.   He had a few problems after his release but never killed again.  

                  he was paroled after 39 years but went back to prison after harassing a family member.
                  I think he earned his clemency, in part by saving the life of a guard.

                  Neither you or I will live long enough to settle this argument, given the fairly new nature of lwop sentences.  But look at Norway, which sentenced the nazi who killed 70 kids to just 20 years, and you reali ze the anti death penalty movement sees lwop parole as a tactic against death penalty and many want to go much further in leniency for murderers.

                    1. True enough, assuming you concede that a lot of Democrats support the death penalty for the most heinous killers, such as Dunlop.

                      As an agnostic, I respect people who oppose capital punishment on religious grounds.  But, as with abortion, I feel a secular society need not be bound by someone else's religious views.  

                      I do wonder why it is okay to kill a six-month old baby whose only crime is being conceived at an inconvenient time, while a rapist/murder's life is sacred in the eyes of God.

                      Not in my god's eye, that's for sure.

  8. Donald Trump's first 100 days in so many words:

    Khizr Khan, Gold Star father

    “Every action and word of Trump has [a] foul stench of political expediency and self-aggrandizing, total lack of moral compass and leadership.”

    Richard Cohen, president of the Southern Poverty Law Center

    “President Trump has proven in his first 100 days that the economic populism of his campaign was fake, but that the racism and xenophobia were very real. His support for the health care bill showed his indifference to the fate of those trying to make ends meet. At the same time, he’s pressed a far-right agenda targeting immigrants, Muslims, the LGBT community and others who are vulnerable.”

    Rep. Luis Gutiérrez (D-Ill.)

    “About as bad as could be expected from a team of misogynist, climate-change denying, anti-immigration, billionaire civil rights opponents, but we better be ready for even worse to come.”

    Ben Cohen, activist and co-founder of Ben & Jerry’s

    “It’s clear now that ‘Drain the Swamp’ really meant ‘Suck up all the morally bankrupt billionaires, Wall Street executives, and special-interest pond scum, and then pump them into the White House with a fire hose.’

    Rob Delaney, comedian and co-creator of Amazon’s “Catastrophe”

    “Seen from space, Trump’s first 100 days has been a muddled but steady effort to lay the groundwork to redistribute the nation’s wealth from the bottom 99 percent to the top 1 percent, with him and his grotesque family astride the foul summit (with a side order of bigotry).”

    And Gerbils will simply continue posting pictures of Hillary, poor sod that he is.

  10. Meanwhile, in Russia, a preview of what happens if we stop resisting. From Al Jazeera, a photo of one of "hundreds" arrested for peacefully protesting Putin's continued rule as oligarch of Russia.

     

    Trump likes oligarchs, strongmen, dictators. He admires them and wants to emulate them. He just invited Duterte, the Phillipine ruler who has ruthlessly suppressed dissent by torture, murder, and imprisoning dissidents, for a friendly visit to the White House. Most of Trump's cabinet have strong financial ties or obligations to Russia, as he does himself.

  11. AHCA / Trumpcare 2.0 vote this week: Call and write your reps, especially the Freedom Caucus ones <* Buck *>; their thinking is apparently that the way to get this foul legislation passed is to make it even crueler; the "high risk pools" will constrain our sickest and most frail Coloradans with pre-existing conditions to having theoretical access to insurance – which they won't be able to afford.

    Buck, Lamborn, Coffman, and Gardner have all promoted the high risk pools as a way for the Republican plan to cover those with pre-existing conditions. In addition, they threw a zinger in there to prevent private insurance policies which cover abortions from offering any tax credits, which would make them useless in states like New York and California. Your state mandates insurance cover abortion? No tax credits for you. We would lose Planned Parenthood funding, and the ability to purchase a private insurance policy covering abortion, using tax credits. So call or write already.

    Senator Bennet: Contact Us

    Senator Gardner: Contact Cory*

    Rep. Degette: Contact Me

    Rep. Polis: Contact Jared Polis

    Rep. Tipton: Contact Congressman Tipton

    Rep. Buck: Email Congressman Buck

    Rep. Lamborn: Contact Congressman Doug Lamborn

    Rep. Coffman:Contact Mike Coffman
    
Rep. Perlmutter: Perlmutter Write Your Rep

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