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December 23, 2022 07:30 AM UTC

Christmas Weekend Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

Do your worst, Santa’s list is already made.

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  1. Rare find: Cassiday Hutchinson a Republican with a moral compass. From HC-R.

    “We just want to focus on protecting the President,” Passantino said. “We’re gonna get you a really good job in Trump world. You don’t need to apply to other places. We’re gonna get you taken care of. We want to keep you in the family.” Hutchinson told of being scared of what they could do to her. “I’d seen how vicious they can be. And part of that’s politics, but…I think some of it is unique to Trump world, the level they’ll go to to tear somebody else down. And I was scared of that.”

    Mark Meadows, too, sent Hutchinson a message through a mutual friend saying “he knows you’re loyal and he knows…you’re going to protect him and the boss. You know, he knows that we’re all on the same team and we’re a family.” She also received notice that Trump was aware of her testimony. 

    After two interviews with the committee, Hutchinson reached out to a former White House colleague, Alyssa Farah, to become a back channel to the January 6 committee to clear her conscience of testimony she felt was not fully truthful. In a third interview, committee members asked questions that clearly shocked Passantino, who kept asking how they knew what to ask. When, afterward, he insisted on talking both to New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman and his Trump world law partners against Hutchinson’s wishes, she realized that he was working for Trump, not her. When he suggested she should risk a charge of contempt of Congress, along with jail time, she cut ties with him and began working with new lawyers.

    The transcript is not just a damning portrait of the Trump loyalists, it is a window into the struggles of a clearly very bright young woman who was under enormous financial and emotional pressure to please her former boss and yet could not accept the erasure of her moral values. After two sessions with the committee in which she felt she had not been forthcoming, she realized she had to “pass the mirror test.” 

    She told the committee: “[Y]ou know, I did feel like it was my obligation and my duty to share [what she knew], because I think that if you’re given a position of public power, it’s also your job, your civic responsibility, to allow the people to make decisions for themselves. And if no one’s going to do that, like, somebody has to do it.” 

     

        1. Okay, what's with the racist right and their obsession with percentages?  Can someone be a 3%er and a 10%er?  At some point, doesn't the 3%er enrollment have to be capped, otherwise total enrollment will exceed 3%?  Or is just an historical reference demonstrating total ignorance with American history?  You'd think they'd want to call themselves 270 or something that reflects "winning."

    1. From TPM this morning:

      In the current moment, one of the two major political parties is actively opposed to the rule of law as a guiding democratic principle. It has hitched itself to violent extremists and made the acquisition and retention of power by any means its party platform.

      The Republic will remain in peril so long as the democratic consensus is broken. Armed and violent extremists retreated after Jan. 6, but have been lurking just beyond the horizon, waiting to pounce. Factions that would put their own power above democratic principle remain a threat.

    2. Isn't Cassiday Hutchinson the one who testified Trump spilled ketchup and grabbed the wheel of the "beast"? That was awesome. Stunning, and brave. 

      Merry Christmas everybody best wished to all. 

       

  2. Oddly, former Senator Gary Hart wrote an article for The Bulwark (mostly featuring never-Trump ex-Republicans).  Putting the Jan. 6th Committee Report in the Context of America’s Democratic Story

    We Americans are at a moment of decision. The moment began years ago, and its final resolution will depend on the outcomes of at least several more elections. By the end, we will have decided collectively whether to continue our history as a republican democracy or to begin a dramatic departure from our past with the advent, whether gradual or sudden, of an authoritarian state. In either case, our future is our choice.

    Our fate may await the resolution of the struggle inside the Republican party, toward which the Democratic party seems committed to act as observer and critic. The authoritarian forces currently prevailing in that struggle are aimed at the subversion of American democracy. To insist that the only elections worth accepting are those that one’s side wins is to undercut the basic principle of democracy. And this requires, as the former president now admits, rejection of the Constitution and the principles around which it was framed.

     

  3. Re: the coup plot after watching Ari Melber today:

    1) the plot was to create chaos and confusion on 1/6 such that the electoral votes in states that submitted fake electors would not be certified whereby neither candidate would have a majority of the certified electoral votes.  That would send the election to the House of Representatives where each state would have one vote based on their state legislature party representation.  The GOP controlled 27 states, and ta da!, would vote for Chump.

    2) David Frum notes that before this, Chump tried to pressure Zelenskyy to “do me a favor, though” and say there’s an investigation into Hunter Biden (see: Impeachment #1).  This would have weakened Biden’s campaign.  After all,  Biden only won by 42,000 votes in three states.

    Of course, all of this subterfuge could have been avoided if Chump had merely given another $1,000 of pandemic relief in October, 2020 which would have certainly swayed those 42,000 votes.  
    Bottom line: It’s a (Christmas?) miracle that Chump is out of office today.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  4. Tis the season to be a Democrat.

    In 2006 my daughter graduated from DU law school, owing about  $200,000.  She was later diagnosed with a disability – fibromyalgia.  She is entitled to bout $1,000 a month from Social Society minus about $2,000 a month in student loans,

    Fortunately, the government wrote off her loans, leaving $120,000 in private loans.  I’m cosigned on them and we get by.

    Now, my son, a Phd from Boston college, has reached ten years teaching philosophy on his gov, loan.  They congratulated him and wrote off $120,000,

    Some days the sun does shine.

      1. …and yet you are “all in” with canceling $1.5 trillion in future taxes of billionaires.  Inside your skull are two beavers chewing on a log. Bless your tiny MAGA heart on this special day (and hoping that Santa filled your stocking with cheap diesel fuel and a years supply of tricocksagain) 

      1. Kwanzaa is a philosophical framework, not a religious tradition. There are no “deities” to worship, only principles to follow for a better life.

        This was meant for the “Christmas Jams” thread.

  5. Digby's Hullabaloo directed me to a new effort from Charlie Kirk & TPUSA — which she labeled "Purges and coups R us".

    Kirk alerted the RNC members to a new initiative of his group’s political arm, Turning Point Action, that would seek to pick off RNC members deemed “disconnected with grassroot conservatives.”

    He said the effort, called the Mount Vernon Project, will “recruit leaders to serve on the RNC and at the state level who wish to better represent the grassroots voice.”

    Digby has a clear reaction:

    There is not enough popcorn in the world to get me through this drama. It is wildly entertaining. It’s also terrifying. That this 29 year old miscreant could actually have any power in one of the two parties that govern the most powerful nation on earth. You’d like to think he’s just a fringe figure, but he isn’t. He does have a lot of influence with the base. And Republicans know it.

    anyone want to clarify if the national feud will play out here in Colorado, too?

    1. When the townspeople of the German concentration camps were called to account for what had gone on within  their  community, they said they were lied to. It didn’t work for them and neither will it work for you.

        1. Or when Professor Pfruit tries to pin inflation on POTUS when it’s been calculated that 41% of inflation is rooted in the cost of energy? Then complains when we buy heavy crude from a hostile nation to drive down the price of his diesel fuel?

          To quote the man who stood before Congress 81 years ago in his own style of war fatigues: 

          Pfruit is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma

          ~Churchill

  6. From Paul Campos, H/T Brad DeLong.

    Hundreds of thousands of Republicans have died from COVID who would be alive today if not for the Republican party’s COVID policies…. There’s scientific value in trying to pin down the precise answer to the question of the exact dimensions of the Republican party’s mass murder of its own constituents, but that what has in fact since happened was what was going to happen was as predictable at the time as water flowing downhill…. Leave aside the classic both-siding, where the Biden’s administration less than perfect COVID policy is compared to a national anti-vaccination campaign led by mass murderer Ron DeSantis et. al. for the sake of “balance.”

    The really infuriating part is blaming this carnage on partisan politics. Hundreds of thousands of easily preventable COVID deaths in the USA over the last two years were caused and continue to be caused by THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. Not by “partisan politics,” which have existed for the nation’s entire history, unlike one of the nation’s two major parties being opposed to vaccination, which is something that just happened for the first time two years ago…

    1. So what?

      It is not my responsibility to keep presumably mentally competent adults alive and safe from their own stupidity. The libertarians are not entirely wrong when they go off on the Nanny State. 

      Most of us got health care advice from board certified medical doctors and scientists, took reasonable precautions and survived the Great Plague of 2020. Others choose to get their advice from Tucker Carlson, Donald Trump, and Rand Paul, drink fish tank cleaner, popped hydroxychloroquin and end up dead.

      Darwin had it right. (Opps, to the MAGA Morons, evolution is a still shaky theory which has yet to be proven.)

      Merry Christmas to those who celebrate it!

    1. Remember those stories of the Japanese soldiers coming out of caves on Iwo Jima in 1946 and 1947, and believing that the war was still going on and Japan was winning?

      It's a lot like that mindset.

    2. They will never give up. As long as God is on their side, they will persist.

      They have been and will be good little Christian soldiers. Humiliating defeat and public education is the only way to vanquish them and keep them at bay.

      They will never give up.

    1. The provisions Boebert is worried about … whether it impacts her sons or "children like my sons" … are far, far away.   Democratic Underground did the digging

      She then explains that she is referring to some small grants for LGBTQ+ programs, including $1.2 million for LGBTQ+ students in San Diego and half a million for the Long Island Gay and Lesbian Youth Program. The programs she cites make up less than 0.00013% of the total bill’s funding, and none of them have anything to do with Colorado, where her sons live.

    1. Happy Holidays pFruit.  I thank you for reminding me why I stopped going to church over 20 years ago, because they have people like you there who are full of shit.

        1. And this is the logic your type uses to avoid taking personal accountability, claim some imaginary moral high ground, while justifying vile behavior, and being all around garbage human beings, while trying to tell others how to live their lives.

          Laughing at an 82 year old man getting hit with a hammer one minute, and virtue-signaling how much of a pius Christo-Fascist you are the next.

          Happy Holidays pFruit.

          1. How unbearably sad and unfulfilled must it be, to be our PP. That kind of grievance and hatred, coupled with the delusion of competency from which he suffers, seems to create an altogether useless and easily forgettable human.

            I would like to wish something joyful and pleasant for him…but I don't.

            As part of his political POV…he is a moral and ethical black hole.

    1. So, by the end of the game, Wilson may have enough coal to start a warming fire.

      Two 4-10 squads get together on Christmas …

      Wilson threw interceptions on each of the Broncos' first two series and both were completely on the quarterback…. Wilson threw another awful interception early in the third quarter, blindly flinging a ball deep to the end zone where he had no receiver open. Jalen Ramsey had an easy interception. The interceptions stand out but just about every play from Wilson was awful, a replay of his issues all season. He held the ball too long and took six sacks. He misfired on too many passes that a $240 million quarterback has to make. With 6:16 left, after Wilson had finally led a touchdown drive, Rypien came in the game. Rypien threw a pick-six on his first possession.

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