By popular demand (and validating press coverage):
Fox 31 giving us cover to even be talking about this:
“Normally, the first side to invoke Hitler loses in politics,” said political analyst Eric Sondermann. “But this may not be in the same category.”
Sondermann, the son of two Holocaust survivors, is reacting to a new viral video parodying the Colorado governor’s race by re-subtitling a scene from the movie, “Downfall,” which depicts Adolph Hitler in his bunker in the closing days of World War II.
“Wow. That’s about all you can say,” Sondermann said after watching the YouTube clip.
In the scene, Hitler is surrounded by generals mapping out strategy. But the new subtitles re-cast the discussion as a Republican strategy session on the 2010 Colorado governor’s race. When generals inform a surprised Hitler that Gov. Bill Ritter is no longer running and that popular Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper is now the Democratic candidate, the fuhrer goes nuts…
We’re pretty sure that we would have been roundly condemned for having posted this first thing this morning when it appeared in today’s open thread, but there you go–the “Springtime for Hitler” exception to Godwin’s Law. And since we’re allowed to say so, it’s pretty good, isn’t it?
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Humor is one of the most individual things out there. And I think this is for each person to make their own decision on – I can understand how some would find it funny.
However, personally I think it’s over the line to compare the state GOP to the Nazi leadership. I disagree with a lot of what they want to do but they are in no way anything even close to this.
I also have to admit that with all the history I read, I may be much more sensitive to this. I’m upset that when we got a new can opener, it was a Krupp.
It was designed by the same guy, Porsche, who designed Hitler’s People’s Car and some of his tanks. In a sense, he redeemed himself by designing the Elephant as a ponderous mobile gun, popularly known as the Ferdinand after his first name, without a secondary armament. It debuted at the battle of Kursk. As soon as the Russians figured out it had no machine gun to defend itself, their infantry wiped them out with satchel charges.
Although it could be that they were written about more. The big differentiator to me was not did they produce weapons for their country, but how they treated the slave labor assigned to their factories. By any measure, compared to the other large companies, Krupp was horrible.
Another problem the Germans had with their weapons was no standardization – especially with the larger vehicles. They were always tweaking the design and as such they had no standard parts. Toward the end they finally standardized but it was all over by then.
Anyone who wants to read a good book on this – The Arms of Krupp
It was a much larger company than Krupp and was more complicit in the conception, building and operation of the death camps. The company even used more slaves than Krupp at its height, not to mention it held the patent and a controlling interest in the manufacture of Zyklon B. The industrial giant was broken up after the war, but a number of its constituent companies continue to operate, including the third-largest pharmaceutical company in the world, Bayer. Think about that the next time you take an aspirin.
I should have listed them too. And Thyssen was also horrible. Probably not sensible to go through which was more evil.
Which was, after all, a Nazi concept. My only real problem with buying a Porsche is that I can’t afford one. The postwar Federal Republic denazified, paid massive reparations to Israel, and moved on. East Germany, not so much. We need to learn the lessons of the Holocaust, and I particularly recommend “The Theory and Practice of Hell,” about the operations of Auschwitz. I also visited Yad Vashem, which breaks your heart.
But there are just two reasons why I don’t use Bayer aspirin.
1-generics are cheaper
2-I can’t use any aspirin, because I’m on coumadin, a blood thinner.
So I use generic acetaminophen.
discusses the standardization problem in detail. As I recall, so does Speer’s Inside the Third Reich. The vaunted King Tiger produced just 500 copies as a result. We made about 50,000 Shermans. The Russians turned out massive quanties of an even better tank, the T-34. As Lenin said, “Quantity has a quality of its own.”
That broke down when the American tank crews realized that having 4 times the tanks meant we would win the battle after 75% of our tanks were destryoed – was not good news for the tank crews.
For one thing, when the Sherman was introduced, it was definitely superior to the reigning German tank, the Panzer III, with its 50 mm gun. The Sherman still equaled its most prolific rival later in the war, the Panzer IV, with its 75 mm gun.
Those mythical one German Tiger trashes a lot of Shermans combats so beloved on the History Channel seldom happened in reality. The numerous Shermans were able to break through and trash the soft-skinned German supply columns, which was their real job.
As for those very few and far between Tigers, welcome to hell — in the form of napalm from P-47 Thunderbolts!
I’m not saying the Sherman was the best tank of the war…clearly, the T-34 was.
But building a tiny amount of super sophsticated tanks that broke down a lot was a key reason Germany lost. That’s Guderian’s conclusion as well.
They had a German Tiger out front. Embedded in it’s skin were a couple of shells from Shermans. That brought hom the difference more than anything.
The Shermans tended to run from the Panzer IVs as well as the German 88. A really good first hand account of this is Death Traps.
In WWII tanks without infantry were generally toast. That was especially true for the allies because the German panzerfaust was incredibly effective.
The line of vision in the tanks was really limited. So they could see and hit what was straight ahead – but that was about it. Meanwhile the infantry and the tankers always wanted the other to go first.
A lot of WWII was learning combined arms – and in practice it went from ok to awful.
It must be hard, David, being so sensitive in a callous world.
It’s for sentimental suckers only.
would read more history.
on the bed post overnight?
Thus, I stick it behind my ear at night…a la Florence Jean Castleberry.
The “Downfall” clip has been used to parody just about every imaginable group… everything from Manchester United to the Dallas Cowboys to Barack Obama. Look up “Downfall” on YouTube and you’ll find a bunch of different parody subjects.
I’m a Democrat, but I like the one where Hitler is a Democrat furious that Scott Brown has won Massachusetts.
The clip’s funny not because it’s Hitler, but because it’s so funny to add new subtitles to a really over-the-top performance.
the Sarah Palin one is the best of all. Sorry to offend your erudite sensibilities David.
And I’ve watched more than a few of them and some of them are nothing short of brilliant. Whoever writes the subtitles for these is a political satirist genius. And I saw the Scott Brown one, too, and it is painfully hysterical.
“health care reform drags on like Stalingrad”. Needed a laugh today.
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I guess that seals the deal.
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That is a productive day.
I demand it is referred to as the Red-Hair Hitler Baby paradox.
Awesome video. Read this:
http://www.steamboatpilot.com/…
the fact that this is a GREAT movie.
God[win] invented Netflix so you could watch the entire movie.
This is a great scene.
Over 150 caption-overs have been done with this scene and the director of the movie thinks that is way cool.
And, if you want to see what Hitler thinks about Scott Brown, then http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…
I think mine is “Hitler reacts to the Kanye West incident at the 2009 MTV VMA Music Awards” (the Taylor Swift debacle).
Best line: “Taylor, keep your head up high and don’t sweat the haters in life. Your biggest fan, Adolph Hitler.”
Hitler finds out there’s no camera in the new iPod Touch. “Tear the Apple sticker off my Volkswagen!”
It’s definitely one of the least funny variants. Kind of lame, actually.