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April 15, 2009 03:30 PM UTC

Wednesday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“I have known a vast quantity of nonsense talked about bad men not looking you in the face. Don’t trust that conventional idea. Dishonesty will stare honesty out of countenance any day in the week, if there is anything to be got by it.”

–Charles Dickens

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  1. Seems that oral cancer treatments are the new up and coming thing.  (My father was just put on one.)  Seems that insurance companies aren’t covering them as chemo, but as pharmaceuticals.  (Which infusions technically are, too.)

    Oregon has passed a law to treat the orals as infusions, insofar as payments. The article below says that CO is considering a similar law.

    Anyone know anything about this?  Who?  What bill?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04

  2. Remember- Today is National Tea Bagging Day!

    You are to be out protesting the HUGE Obama tax increase (unless you are on of the 95% of Americans who will get a tax reduction from this Administration) and rampant government spending (which these tea-baggers seemed to think was just fine under under the Bush Administration).

    Wow…  I just don’t get it!

    1. This is about the resurgence of the Republican Party. It is not about facts, it is about harnessing the frustration of people who felt that they lost in the last election; who are losing jobs or are in fear of losing jobs; who are just pissed off, in general.  This is how you organize, mtnhigh….

      1) Choose an enemy – federal gov/big money

      2) Choose a slogan – Taxed Enough already…TEA bags

      3) Start a fire – Tea Parties..

      It is community organizing 101….and while you “lefties” attempt to put out the fire with facts….the repubs (read: Gingrich; Armey, et. al.) are signing up the “fringe”….

      Now then, this would not be possible without control of the public radio waves…..and the backup of cable news giant FOX….

      The strategy is brilliant…makes an old organizer cry….I bet even Obama is impressed.  I don’t mind the protestors at the tea parties or in the streets…..I don’t like them controlling the public airwaves and polluting the commons with hate and lies…IMHO.

      1. The amount of organization and the number of events is impressive.  The organizers did a good job.

        But . . . I have been to protests.  I went to a few protesting the Iraq war, just to express my disagreement.  There were a lot of those too, with a lot of people attending.  All over the world even.  And it made not a speck of difference.

        Protests are fun, and make people feel good in realizing that a lot of people think like they do.  But I think the day of protests mattering to anyone other than the attendees is long over.

        I predict a few TV and newspaper stories, and nothing else.  Almost everyone will forget they happened in a few weeks.

        1. You protested the Iraq war…and it made not a speck of difference?  What about a young senator from Illinois who decided not only to protest the war, but to run on a platform of opposing the war….you don’t think support helped him??

          Remember long ago and far away, the moveon.org “meet ups”…remember all that networking which started out in groups protesting the Iraq war and wound up with 1.5 million on the mall on Inauguration Day….

          What was it that Margaret Mead said? To paraphase: Do not doubt that a few people can change the world.  Indeed, it is the only way..

          Where is the draft? Where is Jim Crow? Where is Apartheid? Where are the protests which made no difference????

          I just want everyone to have a shot at the public airwaves, I don’t want it to be the  organizating tool of one party……

            1. Who the hell else inspired Obama to run???

              Those “other examples” were a real long time ago…because they WORKED….they are not part of the  current political agenda..

              And of course we have a great resolution to the immigration crisis because Kennedy/McCain bill passed….Oh wait a minute, right wing demonstrators buried Congress with emails and protests…..so immigration reform bill  failed….that was just two years ago…

              Power of the people works…both ways….whether it it spontaneous or manipulated…

              Don’t dismiss it or belittle it…respect its power.  god. I am an old fart….I sound like my dad…

          1. I believe you mean Slutner.  The man is a political prostitute.  Whoever in democratic politics is willing to pay him and his sham law firm is who he is willing to work for!  Slutner and his ilk (like Welchert, Britz, et al) are the reason so many people hate politics!

            They think it is a game.  Like the wise John Stewart once said, “this ain’t a fucking game!”

                1. Soros has said he made $1.1 billion off of hedge fund investments during the current crisis.  He is known for his ability to make money for his fund during downturns.

                  Of course, that doesn’t have anything to do with TARP money, but it makes him sound more evil, so it’s gotta be a good talking point, right?

  3. Brandon Shaffer has the president’s position sewn up.  John Morse will be the Majority Leader.  Those two are the stellar leaders in the Senate.  They are a good team, if they stick together and work together as a team, more so than recent leadership over the last few years.  

  4. The plan to transfer $500 million from Pinnacol Assurance, a state-chartered workers’ compensation fund, fell through today as lawmakers yanked the bill authorizing the raid.

    Instead of using money from Pinnacol to balance the budget to avoid additional cuts to higher education, lawmakers now say they will look at finding more money in cash funds, possibly eliminating some tax exemptions and tax credits and making more cuts. One scenario being floated calls for about $210 million in revenue measures and about $94 million in cuts.

    The demise of Senate Bill 273 came after a meeting between Gov. Bill Ritter’s office and legislative leaders this morning in which the Democratic governor’s administration said the Pinnacol transfer was not an option.

    “We talked about where we go from here,” said Rep. Jack Pommer, D-Boulder, the chairman of the House Appropriations Committee, which was to consider the bill today. “I think we’ve all come to the conclusion that it (the Pinnacol raid) would be risky to try to balance to the $300 million (hole).”

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