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(R) Greg Lopez
(R) Trisha Calvarese
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President (To Win Colorado)
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(D) Joe Biden*
(R) Donald Trump
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CO-01 (Denver)
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(D) Diana DeGette*
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CO-02 (Boulder-ish)
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CO-03 (West & Southern CO)
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(D) Adam Frisch
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(R) Ron Hanks
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CO-04 (Northeast-ish Colorado)
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(R) Deborah Flora
(R) J. Sonnenberg
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CO-05 (Colorado Springs)
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(R) Dave Williams
(R) Jeff Crank
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CO-06 (Aurora)
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(D) Jason Crow*
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CO-07 (Jefferson County)
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(D) Brittany Pettersen
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CO-08 (Northern Colo.)
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(D) Yadira Caraveo
(R) Gabe Evans
(R) Janak Joshi
60%↑
35%↓
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State Senate Majority
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August 31, 2008 12:03 AM UTC
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Lots of new blog posts for a Saturday. Pols must really want to bury the Palin posts below the digital fold.
I am mildly high on energy coming off the convention and I was not even involved. I suspect that everyone who was more there and is at all extroverted are buzzing with ideas and things to post.
I doubt that, yesterday they kept repromoting the Palin diaries to the top position above other topics, and starting new Palin diaries. Or was that your question for the Udall/Schaffer debate?
Most of us have the ability to critique two wing nuts at a time.
Do you support the removal of the secret union ballot – otherwise known a the E.F.C.A.? Please detail you position.
they’re not going to answer that if you just post it here, right? Ask it on your cam and load it up in this thread.
Why are evil unions destroying the free markets? Signed, Libertad.
your words not mine.
What happens to the least of our brothers … http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200… … this even in a Right-to-Work state.
An under-aged woman forced into the sex trade in the Marianas Islands asking Bob why he didn’t see any of the multitude of shows there – and then show all the “nightclubs.”
A sequence of 10 famous mountains, 5 in Colorado and 5 elsewhere and ask them both to identify all 10. For extra humor, one is the matterhorn ride at Disneyland.
To the tune of “has anyone seen my good friend
AbrahamMark” interviewing constituent after constituent in CD-2 and then asking Udall why he saw fit to only have 1 town hall meeting over the past 2 years. And if that means as a Senator we will get 1 townhall meeting ever 2 years, or 1 every Senate term (6 years)?Your “1 town hall meeting over the past two years” claim has no basis in fact. In fact the only person or group to make such a claim other than you is the Rocky Mountain Peace and Justice Coalition. Are you a member?
Simple way to respond to this if it’s wrong though – list out when/where Udall had publically pre-announced townhall meetings in CD-2. BTW – this is my single largest complaint about Udall.
ps – I’m not a member of the RMP&JC (they would view me as a right-wing agent).
his campaign events/discussions (Idea-raisers?) as “town hall meetings?” John McCain does.
Just saying, Mark has been out talking to a lot of voters over the course of the last two years. I’ve personally spoken with him more than a few times.
I’ve also attended an Idea raiser with Congressman Udall, and I’ve watched several on tape when I transcribed them for the coordinated campaign. Mark has met with voters from all over the state and heard their personal stories about issues that are important to them. Since I’ve never seen the media there, it’s not surprising that more people don’t know about them.
During the one I saw, Mark even reached out to a couple of the people, and got them in touch with his staff so he could help them personally as a Congressman.
No media there is a pretty good indication that he did not.
The Boulder Daily Camera and the rest of the media don’t print every press advisory that a congressman sends out, particularly in an election year (and this election year has been going for about 18 months now). They print what they think will sell papers, not what is good for democracy.
I think David has him on this one. His idea raisers were not released to the media, and were somewhat controlled. The people who were on the campaign were asked to bring people in to talk about whatever the idea raiser was on, but since it wasn’t released to the media, ordinary folks outside of the Udall campaign and the coordinated campaign didn’t know about them.
Still, what has Bob Schaffer done to allow ordinary citizens (not just hard core supporters) give input to his campaign? I bet Udall has hosted one more town hall meeting than Shaffer in the last 8 years.
Unless you count windsurfing and Iraqi oil deals as town hall meetings.
as the CD-2 rep ove the last 22 months. As to the idea-raisers, he wasn’t at most of them and I believe they never pre-announced which ones he would be at.
Again, if I’m wrong please do post the info. I’m only aware of the one and the Camera article announcing it (I think it was about 8 months ago) said it was the one townhall he was doing this term.
I’ve searched the Camera web site and I’ve searched Lexis Nexis. All I can find that make reference to your ridiculous claim is letters to the editor from RMPJC haters spouting talking points like good little Republicans.
Apparently the Camera archive only goes back 2 – 3 months.
But it is very easy for you to disprove what I said – just provide a list of publically pre-announced meetings he had. Searching google showed this one mention of a townhall Feb 9.
He did used to hold them and tell people about them. In his April 2005 newsletter he discusses an upcoming townhall. And a google search of Udall’s gov website shows lots of townhalls – up through 2005.
I’m open to having this disproved. And if there were more townhalls, it would be trivial for the Udall campaign to document it…
I couldn’t find the article (there were two at the time, one before and one after the townhall) but I could find a reference to it in a letter to the editor here. And while the letters to the editor are individual opinion, the Camera has a strict policy of not printing ones that are factually incorrect – and was this his first meeting is a factual declaration, not an opinion.
Let’s look at today’s letters.
Is that factually correct?
Aside from the statement that 50% is 4 million barrels a day – that is the only “fact” in that quote.
I think you’re covering up for Udall. That’s an opinion, not a fact. The above letter to the editor did appear in the paper and there was no refutation of it.
Again, if Udall did have more than 1 townhall this past 2 years, it would be oh so easy for the Udall campaign to prove it. Their continued silence speaks volumes (in my opinion).
Since they handle his congressional activities.
Since clearly the half dozen or so campaign events he’s had in the district in the last few months don’t seem to count, I am not sure why you think calling the campaign is going to get you anywhere.
No reply.
But I’m open to publically pre-announced campaign events where he takes questions too. I haven’t been able to find any of those either. At least not that were announced in this part of the state.
Between my posting the link to the Daily Camera (below) and that no one from the Udall campaign (which I assume you are a member of) can provide a list of any other town halls, do you think maybe you might want to retract the comment?
After all, “liar” connotates that I know different, yet even you don’t know of any other townhall meetings. So I may be incorrect (although so far that looks unlikely) but I don’t think it’s at all accurate to say I am lying.
Because we have been over this before. You can call Udall’s office and find out where and when his public meetings have been. That’s what I did.
So no, I will not retract the comment. I completely and unreservedly stand by it.
They have no list of additional meetings. The list they have is of campaign meetings, many of which he wasn’t even at, many of which he took no questions, and the rest were ones he showed up at with no pre-announcement.
I think you are calling me a liar hoping that statement will obfuscate the issue of how many townhall events Udall has had this last term. Hey, it’s the best possible defense if he did only have 1 townhall.
I did not intend to make a giant case out of this – it was just a suggested debate question. But ThillyWabbit is very very insistent that Udall has had public events. And it is something that should be answered once and for all – because if Udall has had open Q&A sessions, I don’t want to be saying the wrong thing.
So I suggested an article on this very topic to reporters at the Post, News, & Daily Camera. I think this is interesting enough that one of them will do it. And then we’ll have a credible independent source to answer this once and for all.
I did find an additional article that references the lack of meetings in the Post:
It does not say if he took questions at the public appearances in Boulder.
First it was CD2, and when I pointed out months ago his town meetings in Minturn and Grand County that wasn’t good enough, so you fell back on a quote from a letter to the editor talking about the front range, and now it’s Boulder County.
Well stick this in your pipe and smoke it:
That would be Mark Udall, in Boulder, with hundreds of people, answering questions in May of this year.
Face it, this is all about you hate Mark because he won’t have lunch with you. Why would he? You’re a class A jerk.
It said his only was meeting outside Boulder. And as I listed above, it did not say if he took questions at the Boulder events. I count the “outside Boulder” as his one townhall – but I am open to finding out if he took questions at the “few public appearances” mentioned in passing.
As to the video, can you give me the time into it where he takes questions from the audience? I watched it twice and couldn’t find it. It did show him talking 1 on 1 with 3 supporters, but I couldn’t find anything there where he was answering questions.
I’m not continuing with this because of Udall, I’m continuing with this because you called me a liar and I’m defending my name.
Also, I have written negative things about candidates I have met with, and I have written positive things about candidates who have turned me down. It’s not that he didn’t meet with me, it’s that I don’t find “Saint Mark” perfect.
Mark Udall had a town hall meeting in Granby on January 26, 2008, focused on bark beetles.
Mark Udall had a town hall meeting in Minturn some time before that, I just can’t find it online. I believe that one was focused on the Roan Plateau.
Mark Udall has campaign events in the district regularly, and has since the campaign started in earnest this spring. The most recent one I attended was in Westminster focused on veterans issues.
And anybody who actually goes to Mark Udall’s events knows that he always takes questions, even as his staff is tugging at his arm to get him to the next event on time.
If the only format that’s acceptable to you is one where the idiots in clown suits and 9/11 conspiracy theorists harangue him for an hour and nobody can get a legitimate question in, then I concede. There has only been one of those in the last year inside the district (though several outside the district) that I have been to, and that was in Thornton.
I do not think Mark Udall is a saint. I don’t think he’s perfect. I don’t think he thinks he’s perfect. But I do know him to be decent and thoughtful and responsive. He and his staff have literally saved people’s lives. He is absolutely worthy of your support and does not deserve the crap you spew.
I don’t know if you are lying in the strictest sense of the word–intentionally telling a falsehood with the intent to deceive–but I do know you have been more than willing to continue to spread a falsehood based on changing criteria and willful avoidance of evidence contrary to your claims. Several months ago you lambasted Mark Udall for not running TV ads when in fact he’d been running ads like crazy, and you just hadn’t noticed because you weren’t watching TV or you had TiVo or something.
So from my point of view, you seem to make a habit of making unsubstantiated claims about Udall and then it’s everybody else’s job to prove you wrong. And you don’t do it with anybody else. It seems to me that’s personal and you should own up to it.
and ask when he will next had a Q&A in the metro area. And I will go to it and post here afterwards. How’s that?