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The Wall Street Journal has become the domain of the know-nothing, anti-intellectual, hyper-political right since being taken over by Aussie Rupert Murdoch.
They attack everything the EPA does anymore (in collusion with local hacks like C. Coffman), doing the bidding of Charles and David Koch, trying to make sure big energy can drill, drill, drill with little regard for health of the environment or the health of the citizens.
If it's good for the 1%, it's good enough for the Wall Street Journal.
I will give "Mr. Cox is the editor in chief of the peer-reviewed journal Risk Analysis and on the faculty of the University of Colorado School of Public Health. His Denver-based company, Cox Associates, develops and applies causal analyses for improving health outcomes." his point: reducing ozone may not reduce asthma problems.
But, I will not accept the implied statement that reducing pollution is bad for the economy.
I, for one, do not miss the brown cloud.
What we have is mining and power companies in denial and fighting mode. This was how the auto industry was for decades. Remember when they fought against the 3rd brake light? Belatedly, around 2010, they woke up and said: you make the rules and we will find a way to comply. A 100% reversal of attitude. It only took them 40 years to reach that point.
I wish I could miss the brown cloud – it's still quite visible most days of the week as I drive down out of the mountains. Its tallest point seems to be centered around the refinery.
I'd love to miss it, because the refinery hydrocarbons can trigger my particular arthritis.
Back in the 70's and 80's it was always forming at Stapleton, then spreading out through the Denver bowl.
Wait, I thought their editorial page was always like that.
In all fairness, their straight reporting used to be pretty good.
Some Friday levity for the group. If you're not following @nexttokimdavis on Twitter you're missing out on some of the best tweets on the intertubes. #youcantfixstupid
I've been following this saga since about February. Michael, did you see that she was arrested by marshals? She's up on federal contempt charges. Her days as clerk are over. And did you see? gofundme changed its policies? They will no longer allow accounts for people charged with discrimination, among other prohibitions.
I saw that, skinny. GREAT news. All of these faux-Christian, 'persecuted' hucksters are going to have to find a new gig! I did see in one of her tweets that mama was getting a new bass boat – let's hope that weren't counting on crowdfunding to pay it off. I imagine a book deal is imminent – and there'll be more than enough
sheepgoats in the flock to fall for that stunt and give this ignoramus a windfall.For fans of the Jeffco school board recall, a little hitch in your giddyup
Uh-oh.
I’m suspicious of the timing, especially with our current SOS.
Hey Pols, we need an Edit button.
To continue, slightly OT for this response:
My brother teaches in Jeffco. The new union contract gives him a whole extra 30 dollars a month.
OK, this seems to be "resolved"
but
Oy?
Sounds like it's going to get done.
Deja fricking vu. I thought this had been fixed with SB 158. The military voter issue has been fixed with allowing overseas military voters to submit voted ballots via email. But the stupid successor candidate issue can still bollix things up, apparently.
It would have to be an independent or third party candidate petitioning to be on the ballot close to the election date. Or maybe not, since school board elections are, in theory at least, nonpartisan, and anyone of either party can petition to be on the ballot.
If someone does that, it will cost the county $500,000. There's a platform of conservative fiscal responsibility.
The successor candidates all got their petitions in with the required number of signatures long ago, I think it was on the very day that the recall petition signatures were certified. So that's not an issue.
I think SB 158 says that "election day" for the purpose of recalls is 15 days prior to the first day of early voting, or the first day that ballots are accepted for returns, or something like that.
You're right. SB158 Section 1.12.100.5 (3.5) says that "election day" is the first day
ON WHICH RECALL BALLOTS ARE TO BE MADE AVAILABLE TO ELIGIBLE ELECTORS AT VOTER SERVICE AND POLLING CENTERS PURSUANT TO THE ELECTION PLAN APPROVED UNDER SECTION 1-12-114 AND MAY BE ACCEPTED FOR PROCESSING BY A DESIGNATED ELECTION OFFICIAL
SB158 Section 7 (4) provides that recall questions must be included on the general election mail ballot:
An earlier section 7b provides for the Secretary of State to approve or disapprove of a "mail ballot plan" for this election, but also says that he/she can use "ONLY THE SAME STANDARDS USED TO EVALUATE AND APPROVE OF MAIL BALLOT PLANS TRANSMITTED UNDER SECTION 1-7.5-105."
So I think that Secretary Williams, and Deputy Staiert were using SoS authority to approve a mail ballot plan, but will be ultimately unsuccessful. Staiert was always SoS Gessler's tool in voter suppression and like shenanigans – she hasn't changed her partisan loyalties at all.
SOS Press Secretary Lyn Bartels, we need your acerbic and reality-based reporting ASAP!
The Jeffco recall is possibly the hottest fight for public education now going on — organizers have been nothing short of brilliant in bringing together a massive coalition.
My questions: Where are the Democrats for Education Reform in this? Where is Senator Michael Johnston who loves to wax poetic about improving schools? When there is a real fight they are revealed to be nothing more than bloviating blowhards.
Just made my daily Bennet call and found out that moments ago Bennet announced support for the Iran deal. They'll be so happy not to hear from me for a while.
I am stunned.
Tim is going to hammer Mike with this.
Does this mean that Mike has finally grown some balls?
Does this mean that Mike is actually a Democrat and not just a Wall Street Tool™.
My initial (off the official record) reaction would likely be . . .
No.
No.
. . . but, I'm still studying the details of these questions.
(I might let you know after 35 or 36 Polsters weigh in with their votes first . . . )
Michael Bennett is entirely owned by Obama. This vote was a forgone conclusion.
That's not exactly news. Remember back in 2010 when the Dem Senate primary was a proxy war between Obama (sub nom. Bennet) and the Clintons (sub nom. Romanoff)?
True but the timing still offered many possibilities.
Here comes Blaha.
Don't underestimate Blaha — remember a guy from Illinois got whooped in a primary and came back to win a Senate seat — don't know what ever came of him.
Blaha has a lot of money and willing to spend it
I'm sorry. I know it shouldn't matter but I just don't see low info voters pulling the lever for a name like Blaha. Even spell check is rejecting it.
They also had a guy named Jeff Crank who ran in CD 5. No wonder Lamborn keeps winning.
On the other hand, a guy with the outlandish name of Hickenlooper keeps on getting elected.
"a guy named Jeff Crank……" Crank was a staffer for former Rep. Joel Hefley. The 5th District still misses Hefley, who was a class act while in office. Among other things, designation of Browns Canyon as a wilderness area or Monument was strongly supported by Hefley. Lamborn isn't close to even being a pale imitation of Joel Hefley.
But he's the choice of GOP voters in his district now and for as long as he wants the seat.
I noticed the spell check phenomena the last time he was suggested as a candidate. 2 yrs ago?
Proud that our Senator and the Democratic House delegation are all Aye votes on the treaty
But I'm sure Ken Buck will be screaming about Julesburg being in danger when he votes no
Bennet did the right thing for America and the world. I'm proud of him. Gardner opted to put partisan politics over America's interest. I am not proud of that.
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We've tracked down the problem to a bug in WordPress 4.3 that appears to be affecting thousands of sites. We've implemented a fix, hopefully our server loads will be coming down shortly to stay.
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Actually, our server is powered by squirrels on a treadmill. We're working on adding more squirrels, but it's a process.
Isn't your server housed in the Clinton basement in Chappaqua, NY?
Outsource it then.
There are many Indian squirrels looking for work.
Process? More likely it's related to the squirrels' rate of reproduction. Shouldn't be a problem.
Must improve squirrel replication process. Better nuts, better squirrels.
Ask Elliot or AC. They have plenty of spare squirrels to point at when discussing any given political issue.
You guys must have the same lazy squirrels as we have in my office.
It appears that you added some.
Thanks.
Well you're back More on the latest Iran deal count:
Bennet yes
http://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/politics-government/article33942570.html
http://www.coloradoindependent.com/155171/littwin-why-bennet-has-slogged-toward-announcing-support-for-the-iran-nuclear-deal
Cardin no
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/cardin-says-he-is-a-no-on-iran-deal-213347
That makes 38 for the deal with five left. 3 to go to take the need for veto off the table The remaining undecideds are :
Blumenthal, Cantwell, Manchin, Peters, and Widen.
Why do I have the feeling that Bennet already knew that 41 couldn't be reached with or without him before he stood up preserving his position of not making a difference? Hope I'm wrong. I can see 3 of the remaining going yes, especially Widen. Also read yesterday that it's possible R Susan Collins would support the deal but highly unlikely, especially if that would make it 41. Bad enough for GOP that they couldn't get the count to override a veto. Not even having the chance to get it to Obama's desk would be the perfect in your face comeuppance.
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Took a while but worked. Very annoying. Looks like to be on the safe side I have to log out and back in every time I change threads.
By the way. Voting to support might not mean going along with filibuster (41) for everyone. Even if Manchin supports he has strongly suggested he wouldn't go along with a filibuster. If so at least 42 with Manchin the only one refusing to filibuster would be necessary to avoid the need for a veto. Still, getting so well past the 34 to hold on to a veto will be even more embarrassing to GOP leadership than just barely making it. Just a week or so ago McConnell was still boasting that they had enough to override. I suppose for those getting the most pressure to oppose, supporting but not joining a filibuster might seem like a way to split the difference and appease the opposition lobbies a little. Hope this doesn't sound like a bright idea to Bennet.
What's the big deal about maintaining a filibuster? People are sick of its use and abuse by both parties. Granted, the GOP started it but people don't care about that at this point.
I say let the constitutional process play. Maybe the public will like it (if any of them pay attention). Let the Republicans pass them damn resolution of disapproval, let Obama veto it, and let the vote on the override go forward. I certainly want him to get as many votes as he can to sustain the veto but at least our side won't be accused of playing the filibuster game. And the fix is in – he has enough votes to sustain.
Isn't that what happened with Keystone? And as I understand it, Keystone is just as dead from a sustained veto as it would have been by a maintained filibuster.
You have a very good and honorable point but it would be sweet to hand the GOP as abject a defeat as possible. I'd love to see them go from bragging about having the votes they need to override a veto to not even being able to get it to the President's desk. Less than altruistic? Vindictive? Of course. But I never claimed to be Mother Teresa and the Republicans have been first class SOBs from the moment Obama won the election. I'm sure I ought to be above a simple desire to twist the knife, Frank, but… what can I say? I'm not. I do respect you for being a bigger a person than I am.
Oh and it also makes a stronger showing to our allies. 34 votes to sustain a veto would have been enough but could have left them pretty nervous about the close call next time they join us in negotiating.
Some light reading for concern troll MB4CO and the AG's office. Coal is in it's final hours – and nothing is going to bring it back. It's mathematics and geology driving its demise – not the CPP.
Coal Companies Are Dying While Their Execs Grab More Cash
Lots to do this holiday weekend.
Happy Labor Day. Solidarity