Lamborn “Encouraging” Generals To Resign: No Takers

SATURDAY UPDATE: MSNBC's Steve Benen, writing for Maddow Blog:

It’s not exactly clear from local reports what it is about Obama’s foreign policy that Lamborn doesn’t like, but under the circumstances, it doesn’t much matter. If a member of Congress has concerns about a president’s approach to international affairs, he or she has a variety of options, including introducing legislation limiting the scope of the administration’s policy.
 
The options do not include – or more to the point, the options aren’t supposed to include – meeting privately with generals, during a war, to urge them to “go out in a blaze of glory.”

As Megan Schrader of the Colorado Springs Gazette reports today, somebody might have gotten the message by yesterday to Rep. Doug Lamborn that this is kind of a problem:

Someone in the audience urges Lamborn to support the generals and troops "despite the fact that there is no leadership from the Muslim Brotherhood in the White House."

Lamborn smiles after the reference to the Islamic group that was active in the Arab Spring overthrow of Egypt's government and subsequent presidency of Mohammed Morsi and responds…

Lamborn told The Gazette on Friday that he wasn't talking about an organized effort or recent events.

"Nothing like that whatsoever," he said.

Doug Lamborn, everybody–elevating the discourse in Congress since 2007.

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Rep. Doug Lamborn (R-Colorado Springs).

Rep. Doug Lamborn (R-Colorado Springs).

A story from the Colorado Independent's John Tomasic is raising eyebrows today:

Colorado U.S. Rep. Doug Lamborn said that “behind the scenes” he and other Republican members of Congress were encouraging military officers to resign in protest over President Obama’s foreign policy.

“[L]et me reassure you on this,” Lamborn told a small gathering of so-called liberty voters in Colorado Springs on Tuesday. “A lot of us are talking to the generals behind the scenes, saying, ‘Hey, if you disagree with the policy that the White House has given you, let’s have a resignation.’

“You know, let’s have a pubic resignation, and state your protest, and go out in a blaze of glory. I haven’t seen that very much. In fact, I haven’t seen that at all in years.”

Rep. Doug Lamborn's Democratic opponent, retired Air Force Gen. Irv Halter, is unsurprisingly grossed out:

“It is inappropriate for Congressman Lamborn to politicize our military for his own gain,” [Halter] said in an email. “When I joined the Air Force, I swore an oath to execute policy – not make policy. All of our service members take seriously their obligation to serve our nation honorably and follow the chain of command.

“Our elected officials should not be encouraging our military leaders to resign when they have a disagreement over policy. Congressman Lamborn’s statement shows his immaturity and lack of understanding of the American armed forces. Someone who serves on the House Armed Services Committee should know better.”

It's important to recognize how little Rep. Lamborn has cared for basic standards of decorum since President Barack Obama took office. This is the same Doug Lamborn who talked about not being stuck to the "tar baby" of Obama, and who has never missed a chance to attack the President in the most ad hominem terms he can think of every chance he gets–this despite the fact that Lamborn isn't a very smart man, has accomplished basically nothing in his years in Congress, and his "witticisms" generally come off as cheap off-base potshots. After all the churlish things Lamborn has said about the President, at times wildly hypocritical, it doesn't surprise us at all that he would boorishly tell military commanders they should end their lifelong careers because of how much people like himself dislike Obama.

And while Lamborn laments the fact that none of the nation's generals have taken his advice, perhaps it will become apparent to observers that safe-seat blowhards in Congress are the real problem.

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  1. DawnPatrol says:

    Sounds *almost* like the first, nascent, whisper-like steps toward a GOTP attempted coup.

  2. FrankUnderwood says:

    What a thought!  A politicized military. Like a banana republic.  Mass resignations as a vote of non-confidence.  Then the ex-generals can convene the junta.

  3. horseshit GOP front grouphorseshit GOP front group says:

    Doug Lamborn is an un-American disgraceful piece of shit.

    Have a good weekend all.

  4. FrankUnderwood says:

    Which branch of the military service did Lamborn serve in?

    • DawnPatrol says:

      Probably the same one as our resident, oh-so-bloodthirsty, "your children's boots should be on the ground in the Middle East" trolls:

      United States Chickenhawk Brigade

      Keyboard Commandos

      Armchair Division

      (They're known by the wide yellow streaks down their backs, their intense aversion to actual participation in the military themselves while pretending to care about America's veterans so as to use them as political props, and their piles of unread copies of the U.S. Constitution.)

    • Miss Jane says:

      The Pentagon doesn't care for Lamborn.  He is a hapless disaster, and knows nothing about the military, yet employs ignorant jingoism and patronizing praise.

    • Duke CoxDuke Cox says:

      No mention of military service in his bio, but he probably watched a lot of John Wayne movies as a kid.

  5. ajb says:

    Maybe Lamborn should send a glorious message and resign. It's not often you get to go out in a blaze of glory and all. I'm sure lots of Congressmen would follow him off that cliff. 

    Or maybe Republicans should boycott the next election. I'm sure that would work equally well.

  6. ZappateroZappatero says:

    Lamborn is stupider than Gohmert and Bachmann combined…….and his loyal voters stupider yet. He'll get cheers from the mini-Rushes down here for it.

  7. MooMooMoo0MooMooMoo0 says:

    What a peice of shit. Isn't that part of the beginning of the plot of A Handmaid's Tale? 

  8. kwtreemamajama55 says:

    Rachel Maddow is reporting on this now.

    • kickshot says:

      It was Rachel's lead story and deserved to be.

      The question is: Will local/state press pick up on it? They really should. 

      Is it going to far to refer to Lamborn's words and actions as treasonous? 

      Rachel has some great followon questions for Lamborn:

      Which generals did he talk to?

      Which other members of congress were having the same discussions with generals? 

       

      • FrankUnderwood says:

        Does it have to be credible for it to be treasonous?  He's kind of a joke, even to many repubs.

        • Miss Jane says:

          Yet they keep voting for him.  All of the gop will have to suffer a severe shock before they wake up and notice Kansas isn't Kansas any more.  Colorado is hanging by the proverbial thread.  But, we can pull this off.  We can do this. 

      • BlueCatBlueCat says:

        Funny. I recently ran across the classic "Seven Days in May" and watched it again. Great film. Lamborn ought to see it. He'd probably think the good guys lost.

        A non-political military serving under the authority of the civilian government with the President as their Commander in Chief is very,very, basic bedrock stuff.  Any generals he and his wacko friends approached with this no doubt consider him a nut case.

        I'm inclined to think his claims to be talking to generals behind the scenes to involve them in a scheme to use the military to exert political pressure is just empty bragging for consumption by the base. If not, then he is skating on very thin ice. Plotting with generals "behind the scenes" sounds an awful lot like trying to engineer a coup, even if those generals laughed him out of their offices. It's his intent that counts. A full investigation ought to be initiated immediately.

        • Miss Jane says:

          The clip from Maddow showed him answering a question from a guy trying o link Obama with the Muslim Brotherhood.  That is his base.  I' m surrounded by them, the faux wacko people.  Now that is scarey.

        • BlueCatBlueCat says:

          True. And I'm not hearing about any generals saying that's a great idea, much less taking any treasonous action, as in Seven Days in May. But sedition is serious too.

          Officers approached by this moron ought to come forward and say so. Once again, I suspect Lamborn is mostly guilty of posturing for the wacko base and being an idiot. The important generals he's supposedly been seeing "behind the scenes" are probably fabrications. What important generals would take Lamborn's highly questionable scheme seriously? The guy's a clown.

          • exlurker19 says:

            Yeah, I figured it was, at best, a flight of Lamborn's imagination.  But still sedition.  We are at war (forever and ever, it seems) which raises the stakes of sedition.

            • Duke CoxDuke Cox says:

              Isn't his statement, whether true or not, an act of sedition?

              • Miss Jane says:

                If this is true he is inciting people to rebel.  Even claiming that he did might be a big problem.  He may have just nudged some who were vacillating between him and the general over to the general.

              • BlueCatBlueCat says:

                Regardless it probably won't stop the Post from endorsing him.

              • SocialisticatProgressicat says:

                No.

                Sedition involves the use of force or violence to overthrow the lawful government.  Basically, it's about advocating for that overthrow to occur.

                Lamborn's actions aren't seditious.  He's asking military officers to protest (lawful activity) by resigning their commissions (also, lawful activity).

                The only thing he's guilty of is being a pathetic asshole, who seems entirely willing for folks to throw away their livelihoods and long careers in order to make his point.

                • BlueCatBlueCat says:

                  Agree he's not guilty of that specific charge but he is advocating the politicization of the military which is a huge no no. Probably nothing here to prosecute but worthy of a hearing to see if he indeed has been meeting "behind the scenes" with generals to convince them that they should be using their military positions for political purposes. Just to, you know, check on whether there was anything more to it (Rs investigate Dems on the basis of less all the time), to see him sweat and to get national coverage for what an ignorant fool he is.

  9. Conserv. Head Banger says:

    I have Republican friends in Chaffee County, which, sadly, is part of the 5th District. They waste no love on Lamborn. But are powerless to do anything as long as the know-nothings in El Paso County continue to vote for him.

  10. HarleyHarley says:

    I agree with most of the above statements–but in addition to those–how about the fact that if those "contacted generals" did resign–how many of them would be giving up their retirement pay?

  11. ZappateroZappatero says:

    Gazette headline whitewashes Lamborn's words here:

    Lamborn comes under attack for saying military leaders should resign in protest of White House policies
     

  12. gasan says:

    I checked out Lamborn's facebook page to see if anyone was talking about this. Yes and no. When you look at the comments on his posts, it'll say things like "350 comments," then you click to expand it and there's only 3 left that say something positive of the congressman. Heavy censorship. He must be experiencing some serious blowback.

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