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March 28, 2006 09:00 AM UTC

A Weak Statement of Neutrality

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  • by: Colorado Pols

The Be the Change group apparently caved in to pressure in their discussions surrounding the three Democratic candidates for CD-7 and today issued a “Statement of Neutrality,” which is the worst thing they could have done for their organization. 

We wrote in December that organization figurehead Mike Miles wanted Be the Change to make an official endorsement in CD-7 as a way of creating some political legitimacy for their organization. In order for their support to carry some weight, they needed to officially back a candidate — and what better race to do that in than in the most heavily-contested seat in the country?

What happened? As we wrote last week, Be the Change had decided to issue a joint endorsement of both Ed Perlmutter and Herb Rubenstein. They hadn’t formally announced the endorsement, but the decision definitely had been made. When word got out, via Colorado Pols and elsewhere, Peggy Lamm supporters started heavily lobbying members of Be the Change on her behalf, and rather than stick to their decision the membership chose the least controversial move they could make: They did nothing.

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30 thoughts on “A Weak Statement of Neutrality

  1. Then stay grassroots and not try to be something you are not Druid.  Why the support process to begin with?  Just what we need right now a group waiting in the weeds. Waiting for WHAT..A call to action? The time is now and the fight is here. Get Lost or Get involved.

  2. Take Back you are so right on this one.

    BTC-USA started at the grassroots. There was a time when this organization represented hope, vision, drive and passion to BE THE CHANGE! Asking all of the candidates for their time and energy to go through their process and not support ANY team is cowardly. There is no substance in this organization anymore to sustain any kind of change. Sidelines are for the watcher’s not the doer’s

  3. “Asking all of the candidates for their time and energy to go through their process and not support ANY team is cowardly.”

    What?  They are a *grassroots* organization.  Why shoud they endorse anyone?  What if they have a lot of folks who really like Herb and a bunch more who really like Ed?  Why would BTC risk splitting the organization like that?

    It makes absolutely NO sense for BTC to endorse anyone.  They can let the Dem Party process decide that.  Then they can rally the troops for the fight ahead.  That is what BTC is all about.

  4. I am not going to dwell for too long on how Peggy’s apologists are contradicting themselves when they say that nobody cares what just 150 people say, and yet want me to believe that the 20% of them that voted for Lamm are the ‘real’ members and somehow reflect the district.

      I will also do little to correct Herb’s stalker in his quest to deny reality other than point out that Ed has frequently discussed the Iraq war, and yes, it is even mentioned on his website and it has been for months in the message he has had on the front page.

      What really has me commenting is a bit of disappointment in btc-usa, if they are actually going the route that coloradopols says they are.
      If they collect money and members by running a poll to determine who to endorse, than they should act in good faith.

      Even though I am a Perlmutter supporter, I would rather see them bite the bullet and endorse Herb than play this as they have. They should “be the change they want to see in the world.” They should take a stand and make a statement. Otherwise, they should never have bothered with this district in the first place.

  5. The bad news is that BTC pulled their lukewarm endorsement of Ed Perlmutter (and Herbie too).  The good news is that they just embarassed themselves into irrelevancy … and that is great for the Democratic party in Colorado.

  6. Hey Go Peggy Go,

    Hey Go Peggy Go, you must live out of the district or are a paid staffer because your candidate has had to resort to crashing town hall meetings to get any visibility.  How gauche.

    After a year of campaigning, the only support she has is from those who committed early, before they found out who she really is but are committed to their word. If you would visit the 7th CD you would find virtually no one who actually support the Boulder divorcee (once, twice, three strikes, she’s out). “Single mom” that’s a joke…I bet she the amount she collects in child support and alimony combined is ten times more than most single moms.

    I am really riled because in today’s Rocky, she criticizes a business for charging those truly desperate single moms to collect from dead beat dads when all state efforts have failed. She is totally removed from their plight.

    What does she know…her “hard” life story makes me want to say “let’s have a pity party.”  Get over it, most Democrats are Democrats because they’ve had it hard and understand the need for a safety net.

  7. Hey Go Peggy Go,

    Hey Go Peggy Go, you must live out of the district or are a paid staffer because your candidate has had to resort to crashing town hall meetings to get any visibility.  How gauche.

    After a year of campaigning, the only support she has is from those who committed early, before they found out who she really is but are committed to their word. If you would visit the 7th CD you would find virtually no one who actually support the Boulder divorcee (once, twice, three strikes, she’s out). “Single mom” that’s a joke…I bet she the amount she collects in child support and alimony combined is ten times more than most single moms.

    I am really riled because in today’s Rocky, she criticizes a business for charging those truly desperate single moms to collect from dead beat dads when all state efforts have failed. She is totally removed from their plight.

    What does she know…her “hard” life story makes me want to say “let’s have a pity party.”  Get over it, most Democrats are Democrats because they’ve had it hard and understand the need for a safety net.

  8. what_a_maroon,

    Funny, I can’t find a word about the Iraq War on Ed or Peggy’s websites.  Well, Ed does tell us about how “the fight against global terrorism must be our shared mission,” but doesn’t get more specific.  Peggy has in speeches talked about the lack of body armor, and even called for Rumsfeld to be fired.

    But I haven’t been able to find a print record of anything either has said about what we do now with Iraq.  Maybe I’m not looking hard enough.  Can you find me a URL?

    Until then, Herb’s the only one who makes sense.  (I can’t believe I just said that.)

  9. Beaupreznit
    Oh for crapssake!  Believe it or not, the race is not won in cyberspace.  The race is won in the community meetings where these folks speak.  It is won in the arena of the hearts and minds of the listeners.  Apparently you haven’t heard of the Murtha plan, nor the nearly verbatim words that both Lamm and Perlmutter take from it.
    Apparently you have your mind attached to a demographic which thinks all or nothing is based on a website.  Believe me, the majority of the district is not part of the under thirty crowd and they spend little to no time using the internet for more than email.
    Fortunately, for all three CD7 Candidates, the majority of the district isn’t as web-addicted as you would think.
    Your complaint is about website presentation, not ideologic persuasion!

  10. There will not be a word in any newspaper about what Be The Change did because no one cares about a group of less than 150. Over half the “members” who responded to the BTC “poll” joined after the poll was announced. BTC’s board simply responded to the fact that Peggy Lamm had more real votes than the other candidates. Peggy Lamm is going to be tough to beat

  11. What About Iraq,
      OK you Rube Herbenstein Hack!

      Do you think that saying the same thing over and over and over will make the false become true? 

    But, more to the point, both Lamm and Perlmutter have said they are against the war and very publicly.  But, since you spend so much time with your nose completely buried in the Rube’s ass, you wouldn’t have heard it.  Up to your ears are ya?

    Get a clue

  12. “Is it really a surprise that a group of poetry-reading-drum-circleing-puppet-showing-“everyone-deserves-a-chance” people can’t grasp even the most basic elements of political strategy?”

    Oh, here we go.  The tough, cut throat, politically hardened Liberal tells the rest of us how it is done.  I mean, hell who needs one of the most active grassroots movements in the state.

    They stopped being legitamate, eh?  Sure they did.  Are you happy with ANYONE other than Jay Fawcett among Progressive Colorado.

  13. Wagthedog – what gives? You get jilted by one of those BTC puppeteers? Shame on them – trying to promote progressive ideas. I guess the political-hack know-it-alls have a better plan than grass roots support.

  14. Over half the “members” who voted in the Be The Change Poll signed up after the poll was announced. Peggy Lamm had the most support amongst members of long standing. Ed and Herb just tried to stack the deck. Be The Change has less than 150 dues paying members. They are a bunch of wimps for refusing to take a stand in the most important Congressional race in the US.

  15. It’s difficult for an all-volunteer, grassroots democratic group to make endorsements.  Especially in this 3-way primary race.  Simply going with majority rule can mean that those whose candidate wasn’t endorsed become disenchanted or less likely to participate or volunteer, which is the lifeblood of BTC-USA.  If you don’t have a clear super-majority for one candidate, making an endorsement can arguably help you more than it hurts.

    I wish they’d made a clear endorsement, too–even the dual endorsment would be preferable. I have no insight into their decision-making, I’ve just been down the same road with other groups and I’m sympathetic to the difficulties.

  16. Is it really a surprise that a group of poetry-reading-drum-circleing-puppet-showing-“everyone-deserves-a-chance” people can’t grasp even the most basic elements of political strategy?  Be The Change stopped being legitimate a long time ago.  If Miles wants to seek political office in the future (or anyone else associated w/ these people), he’d be best advised to distance himself.  While they can pump in thousands in cash in short order, their radical beliefs and utter lack of (or stomach for) political strategy dooms any candidate who takes their money and is, thus, forced to listen to them. 

    Need an example?  Let’s as Dems outside of CO just how “great” of a job Ms. Waak is doing.

  17. Poor Herb…all those five dollar contributions he made as a “student” to Be the Change to sway their sorry-assed poll.  He watched his only potential endorsement slip to a statement of neutrality.

  18. Is it POSSIBLE that the almighty ColoradoPols just got it wrong? I spoke to a member of the BTC board on Friday (3/24) when the “news” was posted here and he told me that, while they had been considering the course of action indicated on here (the assinine joint endorsement), it was NOT official and a final decision would be made Sunday (3/26). Apparently the real final decision was even weaker than the “final decision” posted here, but that doesn’t mean it was affected by the post here. The story here was just wrong and premature.

  19. Saying it is so does not make it so.
    There is not one word on the website of either Ed or Peggy on the War.
    There is not one word anywhere that they have uttered for or against the war.
    They are ducking, waffling and weaving on this issue.
    If they have said one word simply put the link in your response

  20. Druid,

    The advantage BTC-USA has is that they *can* get involved in primary races.  They can use their pulpit to highlight a particularly progressive candidate, whereas the CDP must stay neutral.

    I think there’s potential value in their endorsements, although the downside is now obvious.  But it is safer to stick with other activities.  I’m glad they don’t always play it safe.

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