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November 05, 2024 01:55 AM UTC

Election Day 2024 Open Thread #1

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”

–John F. Kennedy

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32 thoughts on “Election Day 2024 Open Thread #1

  1. Dixville Notch was 6-0 for Haley in the primary.  Today, it was 3-3 between Harris & Trump. 

    I'll be delighted if half the Haley vote moves to support Harris.

    1. I honestly believe Harris will handily win election. Trumps’ behavior suggests he may share that opinion.

      Not a prediction, mlnd you, just a feeling.

      1. It's almost as if he's trying to lose. His remarks over the last few days have sounded so nutty and downright insulting to his vaunted "base". It makes me think he's trying to see just how stupid his acolytes are,  

    1. Harris 308, Princeps Donaldus Trumpus Caesar Augustus 230
      House: Democrat 222, Trump Cult 213
      Senate: Non Trump Cult (includes Independents, Socialists, Very conservative dudes from Nebraska who are nonetheless not in a cult) 49, Trump Cult 51

      119th Congress hobbled by bizarre obstructionism by the Trump Cult in the Senate makes it so government can’t do much except sell humongous bombs to Israel.  Filibuster reconsidered.

  2. Musk may have committed sweepstakes fraud, according to his own people.

    In an Oct. 20 social media post shown in court, Musk said anyone signing the petition had “a daily chance of winning $1M!”

    Summers grilled him on Musk’s use of both the words “chance” and “randomly,” prompting Young to concede the latter was not “the word I would have selected.”

    Krasner has said he could still consider criminal charges, as he’s tasked with protecting both lotteries and the integrity of elections.

    “The $1 million recipients are not chosen by chance,” Gober said Monday. “We know exactly who will be announced as the $1 million recipient today and tomorrow.”

    Chris Young, the director and treasurer of America PAC, testified that the recipients are vetted ahead of time, to “feel out their personality, (and) make sure they were someone whose values aligned” with the group.

  3. WOTD: "Like an Antifa Nancy Drew". Trump Campaign White Sumprecist Luke Meyer

    Trump Campaign Fires White Nationalist In Its Midst

    Reporter Amanda Moore discovered that the real-life version of a white nationalist online persona was the Trump campaign’s regional field director in western Pennsylvania. Luke Meyer, 24, admitted he went by “Alberto Barbarossa” online and was fired by the Trump campaign Friday after Moore presented her findings.

    Meyer went out with a line for the ages, sending an email to Moore that said, “I am glad you pieced these little clues together like an antifa Nancy Drew.”

    If I’m Moore, “Like An Antifa Nancy Drew” goes on my business card, is the title of my memoir, and is etched on my gravestone. People go entire careers without a plaudit as rich as that.

  4. There has never been a candidate in US history who has more at stake than Trump:  Win or go to jail.  

    Presumably he has made the calculation (as much as possible in his addled mind) that his best route is to insult everyone versus saying anything normal.  
     

    Insanity or genius?  We'll soon find out.

    1. There has never been a candidate in US history who has more at stake than Trump:  Win or go to jail.  

       

      I don't think this country has had more at stake in terms of an electoral outcome since the Civil War.

       

  5. This is one data point, but I think it's being repeated millions of times across the country.

    A friend of my wife can't vote (not a U.S. citizen). Her husband, from what little we hear of him, is your typical Trump bro. 100% for Trump.

    And apparently last night, after a long discussion, with lots of tears, and a plea to do what's best for her and their daughters – he's going to vote for Harris.

    It'll be a tsunami for Harris.

    1. She knocked every expectation I had out of the park. Telegenic, plus pretty cool and collected in public given the circumstances. VP can be such an invisible position, but the combo of AG of Cali, US Senate, and VP ranks second to me in relevant experience among the other first-time winning candidates we've had this century.

    2. She did run an excellent campaign. Imagine where we would be if Biden were still the candidate?  YIKES!

      The only thing I did not understand was her ruluctance to sit for interviews. I think she's intelligent and presents well. 

    3. She also benefited from a good economy. Imagine how pissed off voters would be if it really sucked. Biden was a good president except for Gaza and campaigning. He also was the one who asked her to be his vice-president. History will have a mixed view of him but he definitely made some right decisions along the way.

  6. Trump Media DJT Market Cap Worth more than Twitter. Brad DeLong.

    I'll bet there is a lot buying/briging from Saudi, Russian, Musk & other billionaires.

    Does anyone see DJT as a media company? Or even as a GameStop- or AMC-like meme stock?

    I really do not think so.

    I think the bet is that the people who own DJT today are people who think that in a future in which Trump is president again, being recorded in the stock book as owning DJT will be a good way of demonstrating that you are willing to bribe Donald Trump in order to get supportive action from the government—plus a defense against attracting his ire: “They like us! They bought DJT even before the election!”

    At its peak in late October, DJT was worth more than Twitter. This was the case even though it has only about $4 million a year in revenue—less than the revenue of a medium-sized McDonald’s.

    while GameStop and AMC were valid reasons for Matt to freak out, I do not think that DJT ever was such. At its core was, instead, not just people who wanted and people who were betting that other would want to pledge meme-stock allegiance to Trump, but also people wanting to speculate that it would become a principal bribe vehicle for getting money to Trump in exchange for favors.

    Certainly it is not a media business.

     

  7. I'm sticking with my prediction from yesterday. The House ends up 218-217 in the GOP's favor, but if Mary Peltola and Jared Golden can hang on, it ends up 218-217 in the Dems favor.

    The Senate ends up 52-48 in the GOP favor (picking up WV, OH and MT), unless something horrible happens in which case all those Dems narrowly ahead (Slotkin, Casey, Baldwin) get pulled under. 

    The EV count ends with 302 for Trump, 236 for Harris. Harris wins the popular vote.

    And I will be extremely happy to be eating a big plate of crow tomorrow if my POTUS and House predictions are wrong.

  8. This is why the Dems will gain a LOT more in the house

    Wow – more shockwaves from Iowa:
    Sabato’s Crystal Ball moves Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks (R, IA-1) from Leans Republican to Leans Democratic. 
     

    Not to toss-up, to leans Dem!

  9. If Harris pulls out a win, she is probably facing a Republican Senate for her full four years.

    Assuming Sherod Brown pulls off a win, then the Dems only lose WV and MT giving the GOP a 51/49 split in January.

    Come 2026, there are only two seats that are competitive:  Jon Ossof in GA and Susan Collins in ME.

    Collins is a perennial favorite target for Dems but they always come up short.

    Ossof will be serious trouble if Brian Kemp is his opponent. OTOH, maybe Ossof will get lucky and Marjorie Taylor Green will try to take her shit show over to the Senate side of the Capitol. 

    At any rate, whatever the breakdown ends up being in January will probably be the breakdown until 2028.

    1. Lauren Boebert is a Worthless POS your analysis seems spot on, with supporting details.
      I will repeat my unchanged optimistic prediction
      House: Democrat 222, Trump Cult 213

      On the Senate, what does anyone know about Dan Osborn in Nebraska?  I admit I’m speculating that he’d caucus with the non-Trump Cult party when it comes time to elect leadership, and relish the powerfule role of a Joe Manchin-ish figure.  Obviously he’s not going to talk about that while the election is in process — that would be an unforced error — he seems pretty savvy getting this far as an independent candiate

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