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June 06, 2012 03:42 PM UTC
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Now we could chatter all day about WI, but you can only favorably compare and contrast the below performance with …. well no ones ever failed this badly except Mao, Hilter, Pol Pot, and Stalin. Now I’m not taking these warriors against humanity for their total record, just their early days.
The the web page you cite doesn’t exist. Still a bit twitchy after last night’s dungeon run?
But I’ll write it off as a side effect of all the energy drinks you slammed during that epic battle with the orcs. I think the article(s) you meant to cite all came from either American Spectator, the Heartland Institute, and a few similar Rightwing nutjob blog sites.
I was going to ask, ‘tad – the Repub Pissboy newspaper Washington Examiner was forced to admit there was an economic recovery going on, but it was “in spite of Obama’s efforts.”
http://campaign2012.washington…
Which one is it? Please delight the the rest of the Polsters here with your incoherent babble on the subject!
http://crooksandliars.com/jon-…
Source http://www.tucsoncitizen.com
Source http://www.politico.com
Warning the Rookie President that he’s approaching a fiscal cliff must be tough. You could hand it to Bill for taking the initiative on this basic precept, but he needs Obama in office for another four years.
Failure to keep him in place will result in Hillary wanting to joint office with Bill, and as you can imagine that is not acceptable to Bill or the Taxpayers.
Here is what Bill Clinton actually said:
You just read the headline which was obviously written by part of the VRWC. The article says nothing about malaise, that’s the editors comment. And further more, as far as I know, we haven’t heard anything from Obama about a short term extension while they try to reach a compromise. That’s the Republicans fault, and you support it. The President has agreed to permanently extend middle class tax cuts. Your guys just want use that as leverage to get what you want, and 70% of the American public does not want. Tax cuts for the millionnaires who feed your super PACS.
Here’s the reality. If Obama wins in the fall, I think he has the balls to veto a bill with any extension of the millionnaire tax cuts. If Rmoney wins, well just look how I spelled his name. I don’t think the Dems in the Senate have the balls to filibuster.
What you and I both know but you refuse to admit is that we can’t afford any of these damn tax cuts. They’ve cost us trillions in tax revenue and we have no where of any signifigance to cut the budget, because the people all like their tax subsidies. Even Mitt, he’s for the ethanol subsidy at the very lease and probably for many other forms of corporate wellfare (Corporations are People too you know).
The reality is that this is your problem. Your guys when they had control of everything passed these tax cuts, but to have them not run up the deficit too much, you capped them at ten years. Obama didn’t do that and Democrats didn’t do that. You did. Why didn’t you make them permanent in 1991??? Same thing with the estate tax. Why not, why its quite simple my dear, so you Republicans could falsly crow that you are deficit hawks while all the time you knew that you weren’t going to make significant changes to social programs and even expanded them with the prescription drug give-away to drug companies.
Do you really think people don’t remember? Nice to see you still lying. It’s what Republicans do these days. So sad. You’re pitiful.
So
Source: AP http://www.denverpost.com/brea…
Interestingly but not surprisingly Romney and Walker hold many of the same pro-consumer, pro-taxpayer, pro-investment policies that are held by Gov Martinez, Speaker Boehner, Sen Rubio, Congressman Gardner, Gov Christie, Congressman Ryan, Congressman Noem, Congressman Coffman, Congressman Tipton, Commissioner Sharpe, Commissioner Hansen, Rep Szabo, Sen(s) Brown ….. Lower taxes, less spending and accountable government
I guess when you slam a bunch of Energy drinks and spend your time slaying orcs (while watching election results) it’s difficult to come down.
Just hours after WI voters approved of Scott Walkers government reform agenda, San Jose voters approved a local government pension reform measure that will bring fiscal sanity to parts of Silicon Valley.
Add San Jose Mayor Chuck Reed and San Jose citizens to the list of leaders who want America to move forward on the prosperity path.
Upset having their juicy benefits rightsized, union bosses are now planning to file lawsuits challenging the will of the public they purport to serve.
http://www.mercurynews.com/ele…
The question here in Colorado is do we need pension reform. One interesting example is JeffCo Schools.
JeffCo serves about 75,000 or so children and their families, it has a $1 Billion budget. Unfortunately for many every year the District is forced to send 20% of that budget ($200 M) to the mismanaged PERA.
If my math is correct, this leaves $9,615/student, yet taxpayers think they’re spending $12,820/student
Will the Governor’s TBD program uncover these needs in Colorado? Will the Governor put the state’s fiscal sanity on the radar, without a demand for a tax increase?
Will he ever answer a thread where he’s been called on his bullshit?
Or will he just keeping posting stupid shit and pretend that anyone cares about it?
it’s hard to stop him.
is like trying to understand what Charlie Brown’s teacher is saying.
Is whether he will post anything that isn’t a lie.
nope…not likely.
Another lie. What Walker did had nothing, i repeat nothing to do with pensions. The unions had already agreed to all of the changes he wanted. Sorry, but you know, most of us still believe that the facts are the facts. Oh, I forgot, you only listen to Rush and Faux News. Enough said.
Sorry, but I hung up on those little things called the facts. The fact is that we had a little election about those things here about a year ago. The people who think (and I use that word lightly) like you do ran two candidates. They took on two candidates for the status quo who had wide backing by the teacher’s union. The campaign was very well publicized, a lot by Mike Rosen who might as well have been a three hour commercial for your candidates the last week.
Well, guess what? Oh, I know, you don’t remember or I’m wrong, but anyway, I think your candidates got waxed, absolutely waxed. I think one of the other candidates is now even President of the Board. Of course what you and everyone else knew was that one was the wife of a former Democratic Senator from Jeffco and the other was the wife of a former Democratic mayor of the second largest city in the county.
Tad, do you even have kids? I doubt it. Do you even live in Jeffco? Here’s the deal, I had two kids who went to Jefferson County Public schools. One graduated as valedictorian at Lakewood in the IB program. One graduated from Golden, whe was also valedictorian. They both went to prestigious private colleges. My younger daughter just got her doctorate in Physical Therapy from Duke. Care to challenge my children’s education. I thought not.
You don’t know shit about public schools unless your masters tell you about it. Here’s a hint, we’re happy with our schools out here by and large. They educate our kids and give them the basis to have a happy life. We’re involved with our kids schools. They work. We don’t need you’re stinking outside interference. Go back to the hole where you live.
In case you’re wondering, I was also valedictorian of Aurora Central and I also went to Duke. So, who’s the idiot now.
Miller says he won by a few “hundred votes.” I don’t know if that means a recount. But it is one bright light in a very dark morning.
Is that this country is facing a crossroads as to which direction to go. It’s a pretty clear split. And the country is very evenly divided as to which route to go.
Yes Walker had more money and that helped. Yes there were those lying robo-calls. But Walker also won by 5%. And this is in progressive Wisconsin.
What we face in November is a very evenly divided electorate… and a presidential candidate who hasn’t tried much the last couple of years to address unemployment.
Could that have something to do with it?
Like it or not, the issue was decided by the 8-1 red money advantage, an advantage Roberts, Scalia and Alito were put in place to provide.
Welcome to the world of Citizens United.
Walker spent 88% of the money, got 53% of the vote, and that’s the way the thing’s gonna get fought from now on.
For 4 solid weeks leading up to the election, rural, normally Democratic Wisconsin voters heard and saw the rightie drumbeat, with no return fire from the Democrats.
Bottom line, 28 million dollars allowed the reds to redefine walker’s failed Governorship, allowing him to provide an alternative reality in which he didn’t start with a surplus, created a surplus, plus jobs, and demonized the working people he’s supposed to represent.
Barret was characterized as a guy “wantin’ ta take yer guns” by the NRA message machine.
It was pure bullshit.
Another false anti Barrett con was tried here, with an imaginary “austerity” quote, by a contrarian flak.
Once again, the republicans fed off fear, low information, and resentment.
Credit where credit’s due…..they won.
The republicans made a 28 million dollar purchase of the State of Wisconsin.
On to the general.
Citizens United sucks as a legal decision, but according to reports, it wasn’t the SCOTUS to blame for Walker’s $30-35m haul during the recall. Wisconsin law exempts state officials from all campaign contribution limits during a recall, and Walker and his buddies ruthlessly exploited that – even going so far as to pull out a fake recall petition before the real recall got underway so that he could raise more money. (Note: Barrett had no such advantage – he couldn’t hit up large donors for unlimited cash as the campaign was still bound by campaign finance limits.)
So for this one at least you can blame campaign financing but you can’t blame the Citizens United decision.
The Journal/Sentinel has a pretty good data-driven recap.(http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/157454205.html#!page=2&pageSize=10&sort=newestfirst)
Voter turnout was about 57% of voting-age adults. The state projected 60%-65% and it fell short of the low end.
With 99% of precincts reporting, about 2.5 million people voted in this recall. Scottie won in 2010 with just 2.17 million votes cast and Obama took WI in 2008 when almost 3 million votes were cast.
They’re data-mining and it seems that recall 2012 ended very similar to Gubernatorial 2010:
– Walker won men and lost women.
– Walker lost voters under 30 but won the other age groups.
– Walker won independents and lost moderates.
– Walker lost college grads and won voters with HS or less education.
– Walker lost union households.
– Walker kept all Republicans and didn’t gain any Dems.
– Walker lost urban voters but won with rural and suburban voters.
After all the time, energy, money, and effort Wisconsin is left more bitterly divided than ever but with more grassroots organization than before. Politics is ugly — it’s great to watch from our cheap seats and I truly feel for the folks in Wisconsin.
Badger folks need to take pride in what they can from this experience. They were among the luckiest folks on the planet able to participate in such a unique democracy-affirming exercise.
I think now the media will now show intense interest in the John Doe investigation. The looming recall could/would have been seen as a biased undercurrent to any reporting. Wisconsin will not go quietly into the night and Walker’s term has a tarnished legacy to last through generations.
There are plenty of Wisconsin young who were energized by the Obama campaign and have felt the possibilities of having their voices heard in the statewide demonstrations, the activism, and the recalls over the course of the last year. Let’s hope they can take away all that is good from these experiences.
“I think I can say, and say with pride that we have some legislatures that bring higher prices than any in the world.”
Leaving aside your insistence that Obama hasn’t lifted a finger to try to address unemployment for another day, unseating Walker was always considered, even by the most optimistic cheerleading lefties, a very long shot. Obama still polls way ahead of Romney in WI and, between the earlier recall elections and the latest, Walker has lost his rubber stamp legislature, the state senate now having a Dem majority leader the other chamber evenly split.
Besides the money, there has been a philosophical battle as well with a very considerable number of people who oppose Walker’s policies not supporting recall because they don’t believe in election do overs in the absence of a high level of malfeasance, a threshold they didn’t feel was met in a concrete way.
Clearly there must have been overlap between voters who support Obama and those who refused to support recall. I have a sister in the greater Madison area and she hears this a lot. That he’s a lousy governor but was duly elected and if you don’t like him, that’s what the next regular election is for.
Yes, it’s bad news as a triumph for the whole union busting, Citizens United, corporations are people and their money is speech crowd but, as most non-hysterical pundits seem to agree, it doesn’t affect Obama’s chances in November all that much.
And, hey, back to that malfeasance question, there’s still the chance that Walker could be indicted as he is now said, according to multiple sources, to be a target of that pesky criminal investigation. Wouldn’t that be a hoot? Winning the election and then getting indicted? That would be kind of embarrasing for the voters, wouldn’t it?
And aren’t you forgetting he already won in “progressive” Wisconsin the first time while Obama was polling high? Yes the country is didvided but I don’t think it’s divide in the way you think it is. In other words, in the same unique, often logic defying way you personally seem to be divided.
in removing and rearranging I left out that with the other chamber the leg is evenly split. Assembly (what they call the other chamber) of course still R.
The real lesson is that the American working and middle classes still refuses to vote their own interests:
– 38% of voters in union households voted for Walker
– 8% of Democrats voted for Walker
– 44% of voters in households making less than $50,000 voted for Walker.
– 13% of “liberals” voted for Walker.
The saddest thing of all is voter turn out. Despite early reports turn out was the same as 2010 which is approximately 2/3 of the turn out in 2008.
http://www.nytimes.com/interac…
That was a stunner,
Unbelievable.
I think in this particular instance, we need to be clear about what motivated voters last night. Let’s look outside the traditional MSM talking points for a minute and discuss some relevant factors.
For starters, Walker outspent Barrett 10 to 1. He didn’t just have “more money.” He had $30 million versus Barrett’s $3.9 million. You are not naive to the political game. Who do you think owned the airwaves? The guy with $3 million or $30 million? This is not a small difference in funds. This is huge. Nearly overwhelming in the amount Walker had on hand to spend compared to what Barrett could use to get his message out.
Number two, and Bluecat addressed this below, many people, myself and many Democrats included, do not support recalls unless someone has committed a crime. We’re in the “if you think he sucks, vote him out” camp, not in the “use a recall every time a politician does something you don’t agree with” camp.
3 out of 4 Senate recall races were unsuccessful. The recall of a sitting governor was unsuccessful. That suggests to me that folks have a genuine, legitimate issue with recalling someone that has not committed malfeasance.
(In Walker’s case, I would have voted to recall him because I really do think he has an indictment on his near horizon. And there’s nothing that makes a voter feel more stupid than being duped. If he’s indicted, more than a few folks are going to feel pretty damn bad about retaining him.)
Which leads to my last two points–timing and the potential indictment of Walker which would have influenced voters to vote for a recall.
Let’s start with timing. A recall in June? Bad, bad timing. School’s out, students are gone and the numbers prove it: you had an undervote of over 246,000 votes compared with 2008. Walker won by 172,739 votes. You do the math.
Finding a way to piggyback the recall onto the November ballot would have been brilliant. Holding a recall in June was a very bad political miscalculation.
It isn’t just a case of losing student votes; holding this recall at a later time could have proven successful based on the world of hurt headed Walker’s way connected with the allegations regarding his first bid for governor. Thirteen of his associates, to date, have been given immunity from prosecution. If all of those allegations had a chance to shake out in the next few months, it could have created the perfect storm and the right reason for more people to vote to recall him.
So there was some political strategy at play. The recall folks determined that the recall election could get lost in the Presidential race, and there was a decent chance that the recall would happen before college let out. Republican stalling tactics and the overwhelming success of signature gathering pushed the date out beyond the recall backers’ timeline.
As to the timing of indictments, if Walker saw a recall coming after indictments, then he could have resigned and left Lt. Gov. Kleefisch in charge, spoiling the recall effort and putting someone who is by all accounts worse policy-wise than he is in charge. Running the recall while indictments are looming but not yet announced was the potentially better outcome for the recall folks.
But isn’t it easier to say the country is evenly split and the president hasn’t even tried?
You’re right. Damn you, that is easier.
But I think for money to work, it has to reach a receptive audience. For example, no amount of money will elect a Democrat in CD-5. I’ll agree that with even funding it probably would have been very very close.
But that does leave it that there is a pretty even split in Wisconsin.
http://www.politicususa.com/bi…
So, despite the census bump, Obama has allowed federal employment to decline.. How about we should support legislation to increase federal employment? Not gonna happen.
This was a recall. Lots of folks, like me think this was an improper use of the recall. I would have voted for Walker, and I can’t stand much of what he has done, but this was not a proper use of the recall and should never have occurred. I’m frankly stunned that they actually managed to recall one of the state senators. These guys had only been in office one year. The Republicans should have one all four big.
I agree that this country is at a crossroads. The problem for Republicans is that they keep blowing up the path which they really need to take to win. The Democrats are disorganized and dumb about politics for the most part (I talk particularly about Obama’s fixation with compromise). If the Republicans were even rational any more, they’d be kicking butt. But the reality is that they aren’t. My friends, the country club REpublicans, are starting to wise up. They still think of themselves as Republicans, they’re all voting for at least some Democrats and many are questioning why they still belong to the party of nuts. Frankly, I gave up 10 years ago. I’m waiting to welcome them to unaffiliated status.
The author of “Fahrenheit 451”, “The Martian Chronicles” and so much more has died at his home in Los Angeles at the age of 91.
in science fiction. He was brilliant.
Thanks for all the hours of entertainment, Ray. Your work will live on forever.
So for those few abortion opponents who think contraceptive use is okay, add the morning after pill to the ‘OK’ list.
A review of studies done by the New York Times has led A.D.A.M., a major distributor of medical content (including to the National Institutes of Health), to remove the claim that Plan B may work by preventing implantation of a fertilized egg – a claim inserted by the FDA under unclear circumstances when Plan B was introduced.
No scientific evidence has been found to indicate that Plan B has any effect on implantation; in fact, studies along these lines are showing that Plan B has no discernible effect on pregnancy rates if the woman has already ovulated.
Channel 7 reports: Aurora police stop, handcuff everyone in an intersection based on a tip that a bank robber was stopped at a red light there.
25 people suddenly surrounded by armed police; all of them hauled out of their cars at gunpoint, handcuffed and forced to wait for two hours as police figured out who the robber might have been. (A guy in a pickup was arrested – no word yet on who he was or if he was the bank robber…)
Yes there is, that was widely reported two days ago, he is the suspect that police were seeking. Which doesn’t excuse the massive detention or the risks police created by penning an armed suspect in a crowd of handcuffed suburbanites.
…I can’t find the link.
Aurora police stopped everyone at that intersection because they had good intel that the robber was in one of the vehicles there. They did catch the perp at that stop with the cash and two handguns.
Was it justified, esp when the video showed cops pointing goddamn shotguns and pistols into each car as they searched? Dunno at the moment, though I think I would’ve reacted negatively to that provocation. The robbery may have involved enough violent confrontation that the cops felt the perp was a sufficient threat to safety.
Again, all the facts aren’t out yet, but I’m more unhappy about some barely-trained cops pointing multiple firearms into cars that MIGHT have a suspect in them, esp when it looks like most of them didn’t put up a tiny bit of resistance.
The link was outdated.
So, if they knew he was at the intersection, didn’t they know what vehicle he was in, or what he looked like? Couldn’t they have used normal police procedures to ensure apprehension in a safer location? This seems like it could have turned into a real disaster for the people innocently trapped in the intersection.
And yes, a lot of gun waiving at innocent civilians, and the indiscriminate use of handcuffs seems to go beyond at least my definition of probable cause.
The grammar police are on a role today.
🙂
they knew that a cell phone at the robbery was at the intersection. that’s all.
folks, they are tracking everyone with a cellphone because there’s some hangup with getting Reaper Drones in the hands of the Aurora PD.
for the cell phone to arrive at a wedding?
That pretty much cements my contention: they could have waited until the suspect was in a less confusing/crowded place.
I just found this … OMG
http://www.syracuse.com/news/i…