Tuesday Open Thread

“It is necessary for me to establish a winner image. Therefore, I have to beat somebody.”

–Richard M. Nixon


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  1. JohnInDenverJohnInDenver says:

    My favorite silly story from my spin through the morning's news:

    White House instructing governors to send National Guard to hospitals to oversee data on COVID-19

    In a letter slated to go out this week, Trump will ask governors to “consider” sending the guard to hospitals to “help improve data collection.” As the president of the American Hospital Association states, this “makes no sense.”

    • MADCO says:

      Oh, it make sense

      Picture the picture: young, uniformed National Guard at the hospital to safeguard the data, ….

      (see, without the Guard, the data is not safe. hospitals are lying and faking the data … there is a tunnel from the hospital to Walmart and to the pizza place and the kids are at risk and shhh… don't look at that other stuff)

      It's perfect.

      • MADCO says:

        It's working

        south suburban communities are opting out of the health department mask reccomendation

        We have all heard the arguments:
         masks are dumb
         masks don't work

        Starting yesterday – hospital data is a lie. It's why the president is sending people so data goes direct to DC now, and not the msm and not CDC and other liars.


        One picture of some kid in uniform (aka – American hero) moving a box of paper is all they need. Even if the picture is just in our heads

        • kwtreekwtree says:

          There is this cool thing called the internet nowadays. We don’t need burly young men in uniform to move boxes of paper in order to send data.

          Should someone let el *residente know? Naaaaah.

          • kickshot says:

            Moving data is not the point (though it seems that heaven for all of the obsolete fax machines in the world are is in a medical office).

            Creating doubt and suspicion in data if it is reported by the hospitals is the point.

            It doesn’t matter that a trade advisor with no medical experience can write an oppo piece about the country’s (world’s) leading infectious disease expert. Navarro was scraped off the bottom of an internet seach by none other than that genius boy Jared Kushner.

            • kwtreekwtree says:

              Trump's base will be happy to be more doubtful and suspicious of reported data. The other 60% of the country will rely on medical experts like Dr. Fauci, the coronavirus updates from their own state CDC, and their own lived experiences.

              I don't think Goebbels would have been happy with instantaneous worldwide communication. Hard to perpetuate Big Lie(s) under those conditions. I mean, lies spread as quickly, but there are so many counter-examples.

              My old girlfriend is working in Houston now as a PA. She was hired to work in a completely different covid-free ward – but now half her patients are testing positive, and some have died. Her work days are brutal.

              She was a die-hard Trumper who drank all the Kool-aid. Now she doesn't even want to talk about her former hero. Lived experience trumps Big Lies.

    • Duke CoxDuke Cox says:

      Joseph Goebbels understood why it makes sense.

  2. notaskinnycooknotaskinnycook says:

    “If you’re a student, Donald Trump doesn’t care about you.”   “If you’re a public school teacher, Donald Trump doesn’t care about you.”  “If you’re a soldier, Donald Trump doesn’t care about you.” I could do this all day. Someone like The Lincoln Project should do this ad.

    • itlduso says:

      You're right.  Too bad we don't have Democratic ad creators that match the genius of the Lincoln Project.

      • kickshot says:

        Who created 'Daisy'?

          • kickshot says:

            Thanks, Cook

            It was a rhetorical question.

            Of course it was Democrats who, with a single ad, stopped the mad ambitions of Barry Goldwater.

            How many ads has Lincoln Project run? Will they be the determinant in this election? It remains to be seen but 'Daisy' has its place in electoral history.

            • VoyageurVoyageur says:

              "The mad ambitions of Barry Goldwater?"

               come on, Kicky, pull your head out of your ass.

              Visit the Vietnam Memorial.  Count the 68,000 names of my comrades carved there.

              And know that more than a million Vietnamese died.

              All for what John Kerry called " a mistake. "

              This is the legacy of the Democratic Party's great " Peace candidate, " LBJ

              Yeah.  The peace of the grave.

              As William F. Buckley quipped:  " They warned me not to vote for Goldwater, because we'd have a war.  They were right.

              "I voted for Goldwater.  And we had a war. "

              • Conserv. Head Banger says:

                “the mad ambitions of Barry Goldwater…..” Is that the same Goldwater who said this about abortion: “it’s not a conservative issue. It’s a matter between a woman and her doctor.” Or maybe the same Goldwater who warned the country about the rise of Jerry Falwell Sr. and the religious right in the 1980s? Or the same Goldwater who was a strong conservationist in his later years? The same Goldwater who ably served his country in World War II?

                No politician is perfect; Goldwater, Johnson, JFK, Ike, etc. And Trump is an aberration to all those who served their country well, even if one didn’t like their policies.

                Bear in mind that both parties shared in the creation of Vietnam. The US began sending advisors to South Vietnam late in the Eisenhower administration and JFK added to it. The US ran guns to Ho Chi Minh during World War II to fight the Japanese. Here are two references I picked up after I worked on my M.A. thesis in the 1970s on China’s Non-American foreign relations, 1941-49: “Dien Bien Phu,” by John Keegan. “Vietnam: a History” by Stanley Karnow.



      • notaskinnycooknotaskinnycook says:

        I emailed them the idea. Who knows if they’ll bite, but it can’t hurt.

        • itlduso says:

          Your ideas are another way of asking if Trump is aware of the problems of people like me.  That is one of the most potent political attack that can be made.  See: Bush Senior and Romney how that destroyed them. 

  3. NOV GOP meltdown says:

    Just try to keep in mind today that Obama and Biden completely stopped the testing for a virus that did not exist at that time.  SMH.

    • Diogenesdemar says:

      It’s more supercaliMAGAtastic in the full version . . . 

      Reporter: Do you acknowledge that it’s going up for other reasons too; for example, that it’s actually spreading? And what are you going to do to stop the spread? 

      Trump: Well, you know that we have one of the lowest mortality rates anywhere. If you know, [former Vice President Joe] Biden and [former President Barack] Obama stopped their testing; they just stopped it. You probably know that. I’m sure you don’t want to report it. But they stopped testing. Right in the middle, they just went, “No more testing,” and on a much lesser problem than the problem that we have, obviously with respect to — this is the worst thing that’s happened since probably 1917. This is a very bad — all over the world. It’s 188 countries right now. 

      But, no, we are — we test more than anybody, by far. And when you test, you create cases. So we’ve created cases. I can tell you some countries, they test when somebody walks into a hospital sick or walks into maybe a doctor’s office, but usually a hospital. That’s the testing they do, so they don’t have cases, whereas we do — we have all of these cases. So, you know, it’s a double-edged sword.

      They stopped testing for the virus that didn’t then exist, that’s the only reason they had no cases.  So unfair.  So unfair.


  4. Diogenesdemar says:

    This Alabama Republican primary was sweeeet! . . .

    . . . It was one of those races that only comes around once-in-a-decade, or so, . . .

    . . . where no matter whichever yokel peckerhead lost, I could feel true joy in that.

    (Also, a good argument for a mandatory “none of the above” voter ballot selection option)

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