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October 16, 2008 11:49 PM UTC

Bob Schaffer Demands His Notes

  • 54 Comments
  • by: Colorado Pols

UPDATE #2: At least three people have sent us links to replacement video (now posted below), and a local copy in case another attempt at removal is made. Seriously, trying to suppress it just makes it worse–don’t bother.

UPDATE: The video has been removed. Who got the lawyers involved?

We just got forwarded this hilarious clip from right before today’s debate between Senate candidates Mark Udall and Bob Schaffer, recorded at Denver’s Channel 7 studios:

According to the Udall campaign, the predefined rules for this debate called for neither candidate to use notes. The moderator calmly explains that Dick Wadhams got the letter with the rules. Schaffer wasn’t pleased–he even half-accused Channel 7 of setting him up. He obviously had no idea he was being recorded.

He’ll be even less pleased watching himself…

UPDATE #3: The Post’s Michael Riley writes for Politics West:

Taping of a debate between Colorado’s U.S. Senate candidates was delayed for about 30 minutes today as Republican Bob Schaffer argued with officials from KMGH Channel 7 over the use of notes.

Democrat Mark Udall said that he signed debate rules indicating that the two men competing to replace retiring Sen. Wayne Allard, R-Loveland, would not use props or notes. Former congressman Schaffer argued from the set that he knew nothing about those rules.

The standoff was ultimately broken by Udall, who offered what could go down as one of his best moments from any of the debates between the two men: “Look, let me say this,” Udall said. “I think this is fast paced. I think this is a test of your wits — it’s a test of what you have in your head. If Bob needs to have a few notes with him, fine. But I’m here with an empty pad and let’s go. Let’s debate.”

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54 thoughts on “Bob Schaffer Demands His Notes

  1. I wonder who sent you that clip Pols?  Was it the Udall campaign?  Was it a Channel 7 employee?  Why would Channel 7 send that out?  

    I’ve been noticing that you guys have not even been trying to hide your agenda the last couple of weeks.

    Really though, what is the point of putting this on the front page?  Are you really that far in the bag for Udall and Obama?  Guess so.

    1. Udall has been called out here repeatedly for running a campaign by focus group, for straddling every issue, etc. This place has not been all that friendly to him.

      The thing is, Schaffer is just a non-stop disaster. And if it bleeds, it leads. So yes, Schaffer gets more front page time than most anyone else – because of his mistakes.

      Don’t blame the messenger.

      1. I must have missed all of those times you were extolling praise on Schaeffer and slamming Udall.  By that account, I must have also missed when Pols decided that they weren’t going after Schaeffer in the same ratio as Udall.

        And again, oh how I wish I can be a software company executive, they get all of the time in the world to sit and post on Colorado Pols!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        1. Ben;

          You are out of line.  I have my disagreements with DavidThi808 (e.g. his occasional shrill ability to create controversy), but going after him like this is like taking a page out of the Republican playbook of character assassination.  David is a thoughtful individual who does a great service to the political community.

          Schaffer has no one to blame but himself.  Mistake after mistake. Schaffer is all about himself and not Colorado’s interests.

          If you want to be a constructive member of this community’s conversation, act like one, not a Republican hack going on a character assassination raid on someone who doesn’t deserve it.

      2. of Udall’s wimpiness. He thinks Schaffer is so bad he’ll have to vote for Udall anyway. I’m wondering if the saner choice isn’t just to draw a hot bath, lie back with a glass of wine, and slit my wrists.

         

        1. In a democracy were not offered a perfect choice, we are offered 2 flwayed human beings. And sometimes the better one is mediocre. But to walk away because neither is “good enough” not only is not steping up to our responsibility, but then the lesser mediocrity can win.

          Udall is a weenie. But Schaffer is horrible. The difference between the two is substantial. I voted for that difference.

                  1. ..I should stop pointing out that David dislikes Udall simply because Udall wouldn’t submit to an interview with him.  Thanks for showing me the light.

                    1. For the 185th time – Ed Perlmutter also turned me down and you don’t see me flaying him. Ken Salazar did meet with me and yet I still take him to task for his vote on FISA.

                      You can make lame excuses but that doesn’t change the facts. Udall is mediocre and will be a back-bencher. And Udall ran away from his constituents these last 2 years having a total of 1 pre-announced public meeting where he took questions.

                      But I’ll repeat, he’s still a lot better than Schaffer.

          1. I think that is one of the underlying psychological structures in elections, especially at the top. “Oh, my God, did you know that (fill in the blank) once farted???”

            The seeking of perfection is mandated in the Bible by Paul, it is a theological underpinning of many faiths including The Church of Martha Stewart. As perfection can never by attained, the quest for it is doomed to failure, igniting self-loathing.

            Lately, I have been influenced by Wabi-Sabi, a Japanese school of art and life. (Is that a redundancy?) The tenets are: Everything is Impermanent; Everything is Imperfect; Everything is Incomplete.

            I am greatly comforted by those guidelines and it gives me an underpinning of forgiveness as I watch the political theater.  

      1. Classy as always buddy.  If the situation was reversed, you dumbasses would be all over this “site” for their lack of bi-partisanship

        Did I piss you off Road?  Good, I can tell.

        Sit and spin buddy….

          1. Maybe I should have tried to lure you into the hay mow rather than Marilyn. Do they have hay mows on farms in Illinois?

            I’m not saying I would have got to first base, but you would have surely given me a memorable slapdown!

    2. The voter now has an army of people that do this regularly to any candidate. Once you decide to run for office, assume you are always on camera.

      If you are an unpleasant person, a liar, a cheater or anything else, expect to be exposed as such.

      It is amazing, however, how many more times Repubs are caught looking foolish, compared to Dems.  Or is it that Dems are just better people when they think no one is watching, which is truly the only time it matters.

      1. Actually, as demo’d by Wadhams candidate in VA, every candidate is always on camera all the time.  There are microphones everywhere.

        Every candidate, no matter what office is being sought, has to live as if every moment in public is on camera and being recorded.

        And, if you are in a TV studio, what the H*(! are you thinking about?

        Smile – You are on Candid Camera is not just a saying.

        1. that there’s a camera IN A TELEVISION STUDIO?

          Channel 7 was live-streaming the debate, including the debate prep, and a number of folks grabbed this off the stream.

      1. Who uploaded it ? Where did it come from ? What nefarious “agenda” do they have ?

        Hell, I would put that up in a NY minute and claim ownership just as the Udall campaign did.  Look, look, my opponent is a friggin idiot !

        Hilarious.  But we’ll wait for Ben Stein to get to the bottom of this.  There will be lawsuits !

  2. I wonder if Dick Waldhams is even talking to Bob Schaffer? If you prepare assuming you will have access to notes and than the notes are taken away you are at a disadvantage.

    The man with a big smile on his face is Scott McInnis. Rudely pushed aside in favor of Schaffer the GOP now realizes that McInnis might have had a much better chance of holding the seat.  

  3. Has anyone seen Schaffer as “well reasoned” or “thoughtful” during any of the debates while using crib notes?

    More like, “I can’t zing Mark without my gotcha cards!”  

  4. really, I must have been living under a rock in the 90’s. Bill O’Reilly hosting “Inside Edition” Wow and he can’t send a segment out without it having to be written for him, really is it that hard to say, and here’s Sting or we leave you tonight with Sting.

    But to Schaffer, how is it that your campaign manager knew you didn’t get notes, but you didn’t. Something is wrong in the campaign!

  5. What a smartass punk Schaffer comes across as every single time he is off script?

    Fuck, this is a meltdown. Local TV tomorrow, MSNBC by the weekend. Udall schooled him so hard, he was so cool about it. And Schaffer is a smarmy little punk who can’t construct an argument “with facts” unless it’s out of a notebook!

  6. He stepped in like a statesman and solved the problem even though it put him at a disadvantage.  What I liked was him telling Bob that he saw the letter, signed it and returned it.  Schaffer acted like he didn’t even know that the letter existed. Talk about running a sloppy campaign.

    Kudos to Udall to prepare to debate without notes and then in an act of good sportsmanship allow Schaffer to use his precious notes.  Good job Mark.

    1. And this moment of graciousness and being a good sport by Udall was not scripted and not while they were live. I am also sure he didn’t know tape was running just as Schaffer did not.  It was spontaneous, and it tells you a lot about Udall.

      Good on Mark.  I’ll be proud to vote for him.

    2. Schaffer gets testy, and Udall just looks like a Senator. He didn’t care if Schaffer had notes, because it didn’t matter.

      Anyone who thinks this is some grand conspiracy should try wearing hats made out of cloth and not aluminum foil.

  7. Udall with his reasoned, calm, adult approach and Schaffer with his childish, bullying, Equestrian Order of the Sphincter, temper-tantrum.

    But hey…it gives Wadhams cover after Schaffer loses the election.  Wadhams can come out claiming what scumbag and piss poor candidate Schaffer was.   Like he did Allen.  Never mind that it is Wadhams’ job to explain the rules to Schaffer.  And never mind that this is the second Wadhams candidate who got caught on tape making an ass of himself.

    “Paulson is a disgrace to the Republican Party and to his country.”  -Ben Stein

    “I’m confused and disturbed by the GOP choice of Sarah Palin.”  -Ben Stein

    1. The standoff was ultimately broken by Udall, who offered what could go down as one of his best moments from any of the debates between the two men: “Look, let me say this,” Udall said. “I think this is fast paced. I think this is a test of your wits — it’s a test of what you have in your head. If Bob needs to have a few notes with him, fine. But I’m here with an empty pad and let’s go. Let’s debate.”

      That’s one way to shut up loud mouth Schaffer.

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