Apparently not, as the AP reports:
The National Rifle Association warned in a campaign ad that if Barack Obama were elected president, he would try to take away hunters’ guns and ammo. But with pro-gun Democrats a powerful force in Congress, it’s already pretty clear there will be no messing with Americans’ right to bear arms.
Twenty-two Democrats, including Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada, joined Republicans last week in a Senate vote to negate the District of Columbia’s tough gun-registration requirements and overturn its ban on rapid-fire semiautomatic weapons. More than 80 House Democrats voted for a similar measure last year.
“It was a pleasant surprise, but it’s not a huge surprise that elected officials are listening to their constituents,” said Chris Cox, the NRA’s chief lobbyist.
It’s not certain that the gun measure, attached to a bill on D.C. voting rights, will be a part of the final version of that bill. But with six of 11 Democratic Senate freshmen – including Colorado’s Mark Udall and Michael Bennet – voting for the proposal last week, it was a clear sign of where Congress is heading on gun issues.
Feel kind of stupid now for buying those fifteen semiautomatic assault rifles right after the election, don’t you? At least as stupid as Sen. Greg Brophy feels for sponsoring a bill banning trigger lock requirements, based solely on groundless “concerns that the Obama administration would crack down on gun rights.”
Next cheeseball canard, please.
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After the election. I would have bought one anyway but yes, I was afraid of a major push to restrict gun rights or institute user fees/taxes.
And I’m not sorry I did it. The reaction of gun owners was clear, and I think that Democrats realized they needed to do something to extend a peace offering.
Obama was going to do this anyway. The rash of gun buying was a knee-jerk reaction to a threat that didn’t exist.
There are many members of the Democratic Party that would love to outlaw guns. However, there is a sizeable enough block of pro-gun Democrats (many were elected in 2006 and 2008 from districts with a strong conservative under currrent) to keep an across the board outlaw in check.
But there are other avenues one could pursue to make gun ownership more difficult or expensive that could pass.
But the threat exists.
Which is what many were saying
It’s not like you and others would wake up one morning regretting that you didn’t stop by Joe’s Shootin’ Shack on the way home and pick up that AK.
But the tides are actually moving the other way.
Fear is an awesome eraser of logic.
for whom gun control is either way down on the list of priorities or who are pro-gun rights themselves. The whole idea that Dems as a group are just burning to take away your guns has long been nonsense. Now that moderate, hunting, gun-toting western Dems have had so much success in leading the party to winning back congress and electing a Dem President, the impetus among Dems to make this a big issue is even less, much less. Hats off to the NRA for admitting that their sky isn’t falling after all.
…why did you wait until after the election?
There was some fear there. I looked at the massive Democratic gains in the House and the near filibuster proof majority in the Senate, and a liberal Democrat in the White House, and I thought “man, if they wanted to make gun owner’s lives difficult, they could”. So I talked to my wife about it, and we decided that if I could find a good enough deal, we should make it a priority (along with getting a CCP).
While all the stores in the Springs were completely empty, I was able to find a really good deal elsewhere ($600.00 hand gun for $389.00) so we did it.
Also, I finished paying off a significant loan in the middle of November and we didn’t have any extra cash before that point.
Lastly, it was also close to Christmas and what else says “I love you” from a wife to a husband then a nice pistol?
I mean, nothing’s scarier than a black President, right?
I don’t think Haners is one of them.
Haners has never given any indication of being afraid of Obama because he’s black.
I hope it was a poor attempt at a joke, but if not it is nice to know that y’all have my back.
…what little influence i could have on this blog and my own. i’m a serious hunter and gun owner, and was 19,354% for Barack. the NRA always tries to stoke delusional paranoia in its funding base when it can, and this election was the perfect opportunity. i don’t disagree that there are many deep urban dems who would love to go all UK on us, but it just ain’t ever going to happen. we will have full revolt in this country if we get anywhere close to that. unfortunately the gun-owner set tends to be more inclined to paranoia than most, so the NRA’s scare tactics work well.
From the looniest of the loons: Rick “my shadow frightens me” Wagner and Janet “Bestiality” Rowland. When the far right has no intelligent plan for governance, they always fall back on the boogeyman under the bed canard. Fear is their mantra when not holding the reins.
“Collective fear stimulates herd instinct and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd.” -Bertrand Russell
What a great quote! It sums up those of us who are often on the outside, refusing to participate in what is so obvious – to us – manipulation by fear.
I think I’ll change my long in the tooth quote to that one.
…that having a gun in the house increases your odds of being shot. Most likely cause is suicide. Second is your spouse thinking you’re a burglar.
If you get a concealed-carry permit and your spouse starts shooting at you, thinking you’re a burglar, you can fire back and defend yourself.
Go ahead! Make my day!
But I got a good laugh out of it.
To David’s point-the first part is technically true, but no one commits suicide just because they have a gun in the house. Suicide is a seperate problem and the gun association is beside the point.
Spouses shooting at each other though….that’s just plain silly. Not because I am questioning whether it happens but because it is completely avoidable. Good training comes to find first, followed closely by communication. “Hey honey, I’m going to be late tonight…” seems like it could avoid some accidental shootings.
unless you have a gun readily available.
The desire to commit suicide is obviously a sign of a serious mental illness, and nobody will suddenly decide to do it just because they have the means. However, lots of people have this disorder.
If guns are not readily available, and methods of suicide are more complicated, then there’s enough time to possibly rethink it until one can get help. People try and change their minds.
If you have a gun in the house, and you get drunk one night and feel like killing yourself because something bad happened in your life, you’re more likely to do it immediately. I knew a person who did this.
That’s a pretty sad experience to have to go through. With that in mind, I don’t want to take this too much further.
All I will say is that if someone does want to commit suicide, there are various means by which they can accomplish that-some violent, some peaceful. But whatever the method, suicide is a sad option that usually leaves many behind in a state of confusion and hurt. I am sorry for your loss.
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Would that it were so.
Suicide ideation is normal. Even acting out in a way calculated to be interrupted (the so-called “suicide attempt,” understood as a cry for help) is not that far from the norm.
The intention to complete a suicide is rare, and if we could determine post facto which deaths were truly attributable to that intent, maybe we could test your assertion.
But most actual suicides were really intended to fail (the person wanted to be stopped, but was unlucky.)
Suicide is not so much a byproduct of mental illness, as it is the consequence of hopelessness. While the two are often related, they are yet distinct.
Which is why Pols admonishes “be good to each other.” Respect is the best known antidote to suicide.
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It might be fairly common, but many people don’t have it.
And my post above wasn’t meant to shut down debate or anything about guns; it was just to say that the transition from ideation to execution can be much faster if you’ve got a rapid, painless, and usually effective means readily available.
A few guys at work have been talking about buying their guns while they can. They are even buying stockpiles of ammo because they heard they were going to start making ammo that expires and has to have a s/n on each bullet. At first, I thought I would tell them the truth, but then I figured what the heck… Let them go on a spending spree. It is good for the economy. And the next time they here some wild rumor, maybe they will think twice.