POLS UPDATE: The Colorado director of the McCain/Palin campaign, Tom Kise, just screwed up and sent the internal list of talking points about McCain’s suspension of the campaign to his press list (follows). Note to Tom: don’t bother using the “attempt recall” function in your email program next time, it just makes things worse.
In addition, the speedy distribution of these talking points raises the question of whether or not McCain’s appeals to Country First™ today were in good faith.
Along with many other red flags for the cynical, as the AP updates:
Asked whether the debate could go forward if McCain doesn’t show, Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs replied, “My sense is there’s going to be a stage, a moderator, an audience and at least one presidential candidate.”
Their competing positions came after the two senators spoke privately, each trying to portray himself as the bipartisan leader in a time of crisis.
McCain beat Obama to the punch with the first public statement. He said he had spoken to President Bush and asked him to convene a leadership meeting in Washington that would include him and Obama.
Even as McCain said he was putting the good of the country ahead of politics, his surprise announcement was clearly political. It was an attempt to try to outmaneuver Obama on an issue in which he’s trailing, the economy, as the Democrat gains in polls. He quickly went before TV cameras minutes after speaking with Obama and before the two campaigns had hammered out a joint statement expressing that Congress should act urgently on the bailout.
And while McCain’s campaign said he would “suspend” his campaign, it simply will move to Washington knowing the spotlight will remain on him no matter where he is…
(original diary follows)
John McCain is proposing to postpone the first debate in order to concentrate on the economic crisis. He has proposed a “politics free zone” (pulling campaign ads and doing no campaigning) until congress has reached a consensus on how to address the crisis.
Link:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26…
Tom Kise would like to recall the message, “TALKING POINTS: Suspending; The Campaign”.
Please see talking points on the suspension of the campaign. Please do not proactively reach out to the media on this. If you are contacted independently, please let me know.
Thanks,
Tom
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Tom Kise
Regional Communications Director – South Central Region
John McCain ’08Email: tkise@mccain08hq.com
Cell: (303) 885-8915
Direct Dial: (303) 952-4696
Press Office: (703) 650-5550TALKING POINTS: SUSPENDING THE CAMPAIGN
Topline Messaging:· To address our nation’s financial crisis, John McCain will suspend his campaign and return to Washington. He has spoken to Senator Obama and informed him of his decision and has asked Senator Obama to join him. The campaign is suspending its advertising and fundraising.
· John McCain is calling on the President to convene a meeting with the leadership from both houses of Congress, including himself and Senator Obama.
· John McCain is directing his campaign to work with the Obama campaign and the commission on presidential debates to delay Friday night’s debate until action has been taken to address this crisis.
· It is time for both parties to come together to solve this problem. This is a time to put our country first. We must meet as Americans, not as Democrats or Republicans, and we must meet until this crisis is resolved.
· It has become clear that no consensus has developed to support the Administration’s proposal. He does not believe that the plan on the table will pass as it currently stands, and we are running out of time.
· Last Friday, John McCain laid out his proposal and has discussed his priorities and concerns with the bill the Administration has put forward.
· America faces an historic crisis in our financial system, and we must pass legislation to address this crisis. If we do not, credit will dry up, with devastating consequences for our economy.
· John McCain is confident that before the markets open on Monday we can achieve consensus on legislation that will stabilize our financial markets, protect taxpayers and homeowners, and earn the confidence of the American people.
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I won’t argue with any of you that think this is the most idiotic possible pandering bullshit thing he could have done.
Especially postponing the foreign policy debate.
Jeez.
as his first approach. But when its his fifth or sixth approach its hard to see as anything other than politics. He caught lightning in a bottle with governor Palin by shaking everything up, but in attempting to return to the well again I’m not sure he’ll find the same result.
If made over the weekend what a brilliant move
Today it is just weak and lame.
To quote Mickey Edwards a former Conservative Congressman it is “idiotic”
As to the talking points lighten up.
There was nothing in them that will harm McCain or the guy who accidentally sent them out. Get a better got ya next time before making a big deal out of nothink
Sounds like a good summary of McCain’s talking points.
I severely doubt many Obama supporters would be that critical if it was Obama saying something this stupid.
That’s one of the reasons I’m voting for him.
But if you really think Democrats would never criticize Obama, you must have missed the FISA debate.
Sen. McCain is showing leadership by going back to DC to get the GOP troops in line behind a bill he supports.
That means he will insist on certain provisions before he commits to the bill, and he will go against his base again to do what’s right for America.
Obama prefers to campaign, play politics and go along with the jerks who played huge roles in creating this mess and are trying to make the GOP the fall guys for their own blunders.
If Obama were a leader, he’d go back to DC, demand that Schumer, Dodd and Frank get behind a workable bill and vote for it.
Meanwhile, will Dems delay enactment to spite McCain and keep him off the campaign trail. Wouldn’t put it past them.
he has time for a national Presidential debate scheduled long ago. Getting pathetic.
then there is the NYTimes article (not op-ed like you think pass as facts) about Rick Davis being on the Fannie/Freddie payroll up until last month, specifically to provide ‘access’ to McCain.
You really, really need some fresh talking points.
Read his attack on the NYT’s pro-Obama article.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/a…
it must be
truefalse.I’ll read the Times follow up before I take their word for it. Call me another skeptic.
the firm that carries his name and that he still owns was taking money from Fannie up until the day the government took them over.
When did he stop “working” for fannie? When he took a leave of abscense from his firm to work for McCain.
Laugh it up fuzzball
never once printed an investigative report, factual or otherwise, about the lesbian affair between Martha Washington and Empress Katharine the Great of Russia?
Club Twitty, help me out here. Any more non sequiturs we can add to the McCain talking points?
Bullshit.
Oh wait, you said Fannie.
Nice way to dodge Davis working for Freddie.
You’re a lot of things, AS, but stupid isn’t one of them. Nice way to deflect. You’re a pro.
Obama was worked with Frank and Dodd to write a workable bill.
McCain has waffled so much, I don’t know what he supports.
McCain’s going to Clinton’s Global initative tommorrow, doing a fund raiser with Lady de Rothchild today and interviews today. Apparantly that is all more important than explaining to America why the Bailout is necessary and how best to stabilize the market without burdening the taxpayer.
This is just a ploy to shake up the race.
Everytime McCain loses momentum, he tries to take a crap in the punch bowl to change the conversation. He did it during Obama’s overseas trip, he did it with the Palin pick, he’s doing it now. McCain. Stunts not substance.
People are already voting. They deseve to hear from the candidates. Suspending the debates is just a three pronged ploy: 1. McCain changes the subject 2. McCain dodges questions about his complicity in the crisis and 3. hopefully he bumps the the Palin/Biden debate until after November 5.
Obama called McCain this morning to try to work together on a statement of principals. McCain answers back 6 hours later and agrees with Obama. McCain gets off the phone with Obama and then drops the debate pull out unilaterally. He then goes on an interview and says statements are “fine”, but action is necessary. Scum. Perhaps McCain doesn’t realize negotiations begin with statements of principals. And this guy is going to help with the Isreal/Palastinian conflict.
64% – more than Tim Johnson – the Senator who had a stroke!
Dems delay enactment? Do you mean to say you support this giveaway?
And who created this big mess? maybe Alan Greenspan?
And who does Rick Davis, McCain’s campaign chairman work for? Not you or me, but Freddy Mac!
Get some facts.
Lying with statistics is so easy and obvious.
He hasn’t voted for anything since April.
http://projects.washingtonpost…
And check this out: you don’t actually have to paste the entire thing, if you’ve linked to the article. Doing otherwise is spamming.
Color me surprised.
About half the votes are procedural.
Half are ones that R’s and D’s oppose each other: many are votes where Rs join Ds to try to break clouture. meaning by definition the vote is close and important.
McCain in technical terms is Chickenshit
http://www.breitbart.com/artic…
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/…
http://thehill.com/leading-the…
McCain just lost this election. The American people won’t be fooled again by stupid human tricks.
We all know this has NOTHING to do with saving America – it has to do with he is losing and is pulling any straw to save his ass.
Is this how he would govern…?
“Hey Osama, could you quit attacking us until I figure out the economy. I am so old that I can only handle one task at a time.”
That last line is one Obama’s got to use.
McCain missed voting on an energy bill 8 times this year.
Tom Kise would be proud of you! 🙂
If LB is less than happy about this, so are many others.
McCain is a hip shooting nutcase.
I do like the fact that he’s come out and said “no bailout plan that makes bipartisan sense, no debate, fuckers!”
evaluation of McCain’s fitness for the presidency?
n/t
But as I said before here, Will’s been off on McCain for a while this election.
I’ve never really read Will to get the standard Republican stance on things, but rather to see how large he wants to make the box.
There are many things I like about Obama – I love the fact that he’s so intelligent and thoughtful. But like many of you and most Republicans, I am an issues and party voter. Not a big McCain fan, though I have a lot of respect for him. Love Palin, though, for a number of reasons.
Here’s a litmus test(I was thinking about posting a diary for people to come up with a two-line litmus test that explains their choices this year):
If you’re looking for change, which candidate has routinely infuriated his own party by reaching across the aisle?
It’s one of the reasons I don’t dig McCain too much, but unassailable evidence of tangible non-partisanship which will probably appeal to a lot of independents who will end up deciding the election.
If you’re looking for change, which candidate used to routinely infuriated his own party by reaching across the aisle?
I used to have a lot of respect for the pre-W McCain. Post-W McCain is a party hack.
He’s pissed me off over and over again.
McCain – Feingold
McCain – Kennedy
Gang of 10
happened since 2000. Post-W.
I was pretty unenthused about McCain until he picked Palin.
It’s post-2006. Once he decided he was running for president again he realized he had to go more towards the right.
But I’m still not bothered by the fact that it’s unlikely that he’d serve more than one term.
Jindal/Palin?
Palin/Thompson?
🙂
Let me wipe that off for ya. 🙂
Interesting, but I think a real Republican ticket would have less of a chance this year than McCain. Not my favorite, but all I can hope for are those coveted SCOTUS seats until we can get a real dude or chick in there.
It was post-2003, when he realized he could run again in 2008 and he got over his 3-year grudge with Dubya.
See this image: Obama/Clinton/McCain vote rankings from VoteView.UCSD.edu.
He’s so far to the right, he led the impeachment of Bill Clinton. That’s got to earn him some points in the eyes of most Republicans.
So if picking Sarah Palin was a “Hail Mary Pass,” is this just one football team leaving the field in protest and hoping the referees will give them free points? Never heard of a game being won that way, but who knows?
should counter by saing the VP debate should be Friday….
What possible merit is there in this proposal?
A possible Obama statement: “September 11 didn’t stop New York City from holding a primary election, and this crisis shouldn’t stop us from engaging in one of the most important debates in American history. I look forward to attending the scheduled debate, and I hope John McCain will be there too.”
given how McCain has been trying to sheild Palin from the media, it would be interesting to see them sweat an answer…
Two days isn’t much time to cram for a full on debate (even with Kissinger coaching her on foreign policy).
Henry: “Vell zen, it is also important to maintain a conztant show of force and villingness to use it, as ve did viz de mining of Haiphong harbor in ze early 70s.”
Sarah: “Right. Now, did the Chinese surrender after that?”
Sarah: is it true you dated bond girl Jill St. John?
Henry: vy yes. She vas impressed mit my huge … intellect.
Sarah: dated a girl who was in a spy movie. Is that why you know so much about foriegn policy?
Henry: Oh sarah, its not like being able to see russia from your house. But I like your spunk, you remind me of Jill–only younger.
Henry: So yes, I was the architect of the policy of detente.
Sarah: Come again ? I don’t speak French. Care for another freedom fry ?
the more appropriate analogy was the 1932 presidential election which involve a robust campaign which took place in the middle of the last Great Republican Depression.
much of New York was still in shock, and still cleaning up. It was one of the few things I thought Giuliani did really well: making sure the election still happened. Then he pissed it all away by asking to stay in office after he was term-limited out.
McCain supporter Sen. Lindsey Graham tells CNN the McCain campaign is proposing to the Presidential Debate Commission and the Obama camp that if there’s no bailout deal by Friday, the first presidential debate should take the place of the VP debate, currently scheduled for next Thursday, October 2 in St. Louis.
In this scenario, the vice presidential debate between Joe Biden and Sarah Palin would be rescheduled for a date yet to be determined, and take place in Oxford, Mississippi, currently slated to be the site of the first presidential faceoff this Friday.
Graham says the McCain camp is well aware of the position of the Obama campaign and the debate commission that the debate should go on as planned – but both he and another senior McCain adviser insist the Republican nominee will not go to the debate Friday if there’s no deal on the bailout.
http://politicalticker.blogs.c…
From ABC News:
ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos reports: If Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain doesn’t vote for the Bush administration’s $700 billion economic bailout plan, some Republican and Democratic congressional leaders tell ABC News the plan won’t pass.
“If McCain doesn’t come out for this, it’s over,” a Top House Republican tells ABC News.
A Democratic leadership source says that White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten has been told that
Democratic votes will not be there if McCain votes no — that there is no deal if McCain doesn’t go along.
Cheers to Obama for not falling for this dumbest of all political stunts.
Obama camp: the debate is on.
of debating an empty chair. McCain doesn’t dare try that tactic because the empty chair would almost certainly win;-)
I’ve heard from one source that McCain made this decision in the middle of doing debate prep. And they still haven’t said who McCain is actually practicing against. My guess is it was not going well.
I who I heard he was practicing against.
And having watched actress Kerry Washington kick his butt on Real Time With Bill Maher last week, I can’t imagine he’s that tough of a debater…
The WSJ apparently reported Steele, then corrected it to say McCain would not be revealing who it was. I haven’t heard anything else about it.
McCain and Palin: Not Ready for Prime Time…
Literally!
I think this bonehead stunt will cost McCain another 10 points, easy.
Least of all the McCain camp.
both on the left and the right, but presumably for different reasons. The left thinks it would be absolutely hilarious, and the right… well who ever knows what they’re thinking?
in the last 48 hours is the public polling. And the bi-partisan solution wasn’t even McCain’s idea. And further more:
He’s playing politics with our mortgage crisis as he did with Georgia. This is sickening.
He just blinked. Big time. Sarah Palin’s probably saying, “You big wuss! Can we drop YOU from the ticket? You’re draggin’ me down!”
For Obama? You know, just to keep tradition going.
My 2 cents; these are 2 Senators that are running for President, not 2 governors or mayors. It is their JOB to help pass/defeat this bill.
to refresh your memory with facts, unless of course you take pride in your ignorance of the legislative process in IL?
Hunter at Daily Kos:
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but most votes are pretty inconsequential,
in that the outcome is known beforehand.
If Cheney is coming across the street to vote,
because of a possible tie,
every
swingingoops, almost slipped into Army vernacular –every Senator ought to be there, too.
Most of the votes that McCain missed were decided by wide margins, and his showing up wouldn’t have made any difference.
But Noelle’s quote from ABC News above indicates that McCain is critical for this vote.
I just fear he and the rest of the GOP are anxious to “solve” this while they can still control that tsunami of cash.
The longer the Congress delays, the less urgent the situation becomes.
If consensus is delayed until November 5, and then passes, I’ll bet that Bush won’t sign it.
.
They have to brush their teeth, go to the bathroom, and get some sleep too, ya know.
This was about the most transparent, stupid move that ever there was. I’d call it a “stunt” but that would imply some actual thought behind it. It seems like total panic on McCain’s part.
to not make presidential political hay, grandstanding in the Senate, while the country needs to get a deal worked out that keeps screwing the public to a minimum.
And it’s not as if McCain knows anything about economics that would contribute any value to the back and forth. Does he really think bringing his running around like a chicken without its head routine to DC is going to save the day? Does anyone else?
He’s planning to show up to vote. That’s it. That’s the reason he needs to be there, because Democrats have said they’re not going to let McCain run against their plan in this election. If he doesn’t vote for it, it won’t pass.
Considering he hasn’t voted in six months, it’s quite possible he’s forgotten how. He needs a couple of days in Washington to prepare.
is going to fly to the rescue of the bailout bill. There are negotiations already in progress between Democrats and Republicans like Chris Dodd and Shelby regarding the bailout bill. Does anyone really think that McCain has a better grip on the nuances of the negotiations than the Chairman of the banking committee. McCain and Obama can both be apprised of the negotiations but other Senators and Representatives are already working diligently on a workable compromise. Should McCain and Obama be present to debate and vote on the bill? That is an obvious yes but to have McCain somehow pretend that he and only he can lead the negotiations is extreme silliness. It will be interesting to see if he makes as big an impact as he did for Gustav putting together care packages. That was another photo-op flop.
Minus the photo-op, the city is still reeling. My family still does not have power, minutes from downtown. The traffic lights have not been repaired and so there is erratic travel.
Some people are in dire straights for food and safe water…
These gd republicans…gd, gd, gd, repubs….FEMA is on vacation and bush is on medication…gd.
Of course, I think the mayor of Houston is democratic, although I am not positive. Only repubs party regulars are able to get help for their jurisdiction, evidently…
I am angry and frustrated. Houston now is a sitting duck for another civil emergency.
“Where’s the button to delete this email I sent from everyone else’s computer?”
Please, Republicans, don’t give up. We really want to win fair and square. We’re Democrats, it’s what we do.
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Is McCain closing ranks with Bush ?
To me, this is a clear sign that we need to go slow on this.
Last night, on TV, a guy debating Paul Krugman said to let these ailing institutions take out loans, or sell equity shares.
Let the market correct itself.
At least he still believes in the system.
.
.
Lefties believe in responsibility, righties only talk about it. See: history.
Michael Jordan is a good example, Tiger woods another one.
McCain is making mistake after mistake in the final seconds.
For all the bible thumpers out there, my Southern Baptist Minister Granddad would say, “You can do everything wrong or everything right, but God is going to put you where he wants you.”
In this election, I guess God is voting Democratic. At least that what she told me.
McCain = Bill Buckner.
For those of us who are Iggles fans.
n/t
Fingers crossed!
Bob Hope was on the Golden Girls once. He said that earthquakes in California, particularly immediately after Reagan’s return, is proof that God is in fact a Democrat.
I bet they break both of these promises.
problems don’t come one at a time. A president has to multitask.
Suspend the campaign. fine.
Change the topic of the debate. fine.
Maybe they could debate what the bailout should look like and what the regulatory regime should look like.
Let them bring advisors with them. That is how presidents make decisions. I’d love to see Phil Gramm squirm explaining how McCain wants to regulate Wall Street.
You know why the debate is important? one of the jobs of a leader is to explain to the american people why a particular course of action is the right one. The perfect format: a debate.
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Tag Team debate.
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I’d love to see Phil Gramm squirm explaining how McCain wants to regulate Wall Street.
that all McCain’s speeches have become, “Obama wants to (insert heavily abridged plan here, usually includes talking), ha ha, I want REFORM!”
I’m with you, I’d love to see him explain any plans for reform.
I think it went something like this
“we need to get us some of that re form, daddy”
“I can’t run as a reformer. I’ve been governor for 20 years, moron”
oh how wrong he was
He is on MSNBC advocating for “not canceling the debates, but we can just postpone them.”
Idiot!!!
maybe Joe can tell us how things look from his vantage point?
and McCain/LIEberman are on the wrong side, again.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/…
according to the Gospel of Carville. Leiberman may have to settle for the role of one of the roman soldiers who cast lots for Jesus’ robe.
more cock(y)
Now more than ever there should be a debate about the future of this country!
McBush has got to come up with something dramatic since the No. 1 issue now is the economy, something he’s admitted that he doesn’t know much about.
Maybe while Henry Kissinger is tutoring Sarah Palin on world geography and history, Alan Greenspan can tutor McBush on economics and finance.
and now…
n/t
that’s good. Really, really good!
They’re going to debate foreign policy on Friday because, you know what, this financial crisis is bad, but we’re still fighting two wars.
We need to see a debate about the future of this country’s place in the world.
I feel like this is a time when both parties can come together and work out a deal that benefits the people it needs to benefit, punishes those it needs to punish, and doesn’t create an even bigger problem than the one it’s trying to fix.
From CNN Wire:
Obama: Friday debate should go on
Posted: 04:51 PM ET
CLEARWATER, Florida (CNN) – Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said he wants Friday’s scheduled presidential debate to go ahead, despite John McCain’s call for a suspension of campaigning to deal with the faltering economy.
“It’s my belief that this is exactly the time when the American people need to hear from the person who in approximately 40 days will be responsible for dealing with this mess,” Obama said.
He added, “I think that it is going to be part of the president’s job to deal with more than one thing at once.”
Multi-tasking is a trait I certainly want in a Commander-in-Chief.
that if McCain still was basking in the glow of his lead in the polls that he would be doing this?
A guy that wants to be President can’t handle a debate, a financial crisis and a war with two theaters?
What does he think job is about? Meeting with Librarians on what books to ban and going home to feed your kids?
Washington Post Poll
Obama 52%
McCain 42%
Fox News Poll
Obama 45%
McCain 39%
Ross Perot got 19% in 1992, after dropping out and undropping back in.
Alan Keyes only got 27% running against Barack Obama.
George Bush maintains a 28% approval rating.
Might McCain be the first Republican to get less than 40% in a national election since Barry Goldwater? The first Republican to come in third place since Taft?
Mike Gravel?
🙂
Barr is bouncing off the walls today, he’s so happy.
I would love to see Bob Barr be Ralph Nader to John McCain’s Al Gore.
you seem a little more liberal than that.
former.
Obama’s response is classic…even though McCain beat him to the punch on this, Obama is making it sting. ‘As President you will have to handle more than one thing at a time.’
Fidel’s Dirt Nap beat me to the punch. Looks like I need to learn how to multitask also.
I did like that last line too !
This is nothing more than yet another gimmick.
Time and time again McCain has tried to pull one over on the American people. While he helped create this financial mess, he’s now going to try and take credit for what bailout comes out of Congress. He’s an opportunist pig at the troth.
since he can’t handle more than one thing at a time and the job of the VP is to step in when the president can no longer perform his/her duties (not just when the president dies (25th ammendment))
How about Palin? She needs to be ready to step in for McCain anyway and since she has been the first runnerup in a beauty pagent she has experience with being prepared to step in if the winner is unable to perform her (his?) duties. Why doesn’t she debate Obama?
Instapundit and Riehl seem to like the idea. I don’t see the benefit to them, unless they think sending Palin to debate Obama is a huge insult to Obama (which shows what they really think of Palin).
since they have plunged us so deeply into crisis. I can just imagine the speech-
“My friends, representing the party that has been in power for seven of the last eight years, while we have waged two wars–one that was unnecessary that has kept us from finishing the job in the second, and costing billions in treasure and the lives of many of our citizens; while we have failed miserably in responding to domestic disasters; have raised spending while plunging our nation ever deeper in debt–both foreign and domestic; have awarded no bid contracts to our cronies who robbed the treasury; have politicized every level of our government, while refusing any accountability for our actions; have illegally spied on innocent Americans; and have generally run amok turning over the henhouse to various foxes, leading us into the mess we are in today; now is the time for leadership.
That is why I, John Sidney McCain, am calling on my opponent to join with me in canceling this election. Because 8 more years of the same failed policies should be a bi-partisan effort.”
that’s what he did after 9-11
I’m gonna scream! I heard some senator on the tube say that you always knew you were really in trouble with McCain when he addressed you as “my friend”
He apparently had to meet with the “Obama is an elitist” woman who splits time between London and New York, Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild.
He also had to give an interview with Katie Couric in New York.
So it’s just debates that need to be canceled during crises, not interviews or fund-raising?
isn’t the only one to bravely run away from a losing fight.
n/t
Nothing has changed since last week- Fannie & Freddie went into receivership weeks ago: the Senate didn’t seem to need him then.
FDIC chair indicated they are low on cash and have numerous institutions ont heir watch list. The Senate didn’t need him then.
AIG, Merrill, Wachovia, WAMU, Lehman- all in panic and near free fall last week- the Senate didn’t need him then.
The Gulf Coast was about to ge thammered by hurricanes and t-storms- the Senate didn’t need him then. We’ve been losing AMerican lives in Iraq all year long- Senate hasn’t needed him since April (his last vote).
So earlier this week he goes form not answering the question about whether he’d vote vore the bailout as proposed if his vote was critical to – they can’t do this with out me?
Sounds like the logical extension of the R campaign strategy to date- limit the media’s access to the candidates- pictures are great, but no questions. And now he’s got a team of lobbyists and media pros telling him he’s got nothing to gain by showing up at the debate.
He lost my vote.
Here’s part of the Couric interview…
I could watch it twenty times. That smile on Couric’s face, like she’s trying to calm down a whining child, and talking through her teeth. That “I’ll find some and bring ’em to ya!” sort of dodge, with the patronizing tone.
I think you can sum up the entire Palin candidacy in this six-second clip.
I man, seriously, a 72-year-old heart beat away from the presidency? In the current situation our nation is in–foreign and domestic?
It’s no wonder they won’t let her out to do a press conference or let the media actually report on what she does aside from the stump speeches. She would be eviscerated.
Holy-frickin-God, what a disaster. Here’s the full interview…
while Medvedev is considered cutesy.
OK, we’re going to be in another Great Depression and “perhaps” going to war with Russia over Georgia.
She’s just a freakin’ IDIOT. Sorry, but that’s the way it is.
CountryPolitics FirstWhoops, bad choice…
Palin has no clue about foreign affairs, her running mate or the economy.
She is really done after this interview. BTW, did you see the look of pure revulsion in Katie’s face?
Like I said before the sad part is that the McCain camp has ruined what was properly a pretty good life for this woman. She went from the most popular governor in the US to the most stupid VP running mate in recent history.
McCain is just a walking “Bad luck Shelprock”. (You know Flintstones and the Dinosaurs; they all lived together in harmony) That’s what Katie should have asked about. 🙂
Can any of you Repubs defend this?
but even I could name a couple of things he has done vis a vis reform in the 26 years he’s been a Washington insider.
You’d think that running as ‘mavericks’ and ‘reformers’ they would have briefed her on that, no?
Palin is a disaster and the thought of her as president is downright terrifying.
“Oh, was that question for me?”
Wow. What a buffoon.
My god that is completely pathetic. Total lightweight.
Let’s call Osama Bin Laden and ask him to stop killing our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan for a week or two because, ya know, we gotta spend a couple days focusin’ on fixin’ the economy!
He is calling his campaign management every name in the book.
Can a man be a cunt?
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What? It was the natural thing to try.
That was a landlord’s name years ago. And yes, they pronounced it with a short U.
I find it difficult to find anything wrong with McCain wanting to postpone the debates to do his job. In fact, I think it’s somewhat irresponsible for Obama to insist on doing them now, when Congress is trying to hammer this bailout package out by the end of the week. Regardless of partisan politics, and who has voted for what in the past, our country is in a crisis right now and we need or legislators to keep their eyes on the ball and do their job. Quickly.
On a separate note, McCain is a notably better debater than Barack (this NY Times article sums it up pretty well: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09… so it’s unreasonable to say that this move was completely in his own self-interest. But like I said, I just want them both to get to Washington and do their jobs.
Everyone else in Congress has actually done the work on this, and he wants to sweep in, call himself indispensable, and muck it all up.
And everyone who wants to try defending McCain on this should remember: McCain still hasn’t read the proposal.
It’s three pages long! Three pages! You can read it on the toilet!
Yeah, this is a stunt. Not so much to get McCain out of the debates, but to get Palin out of hers.
“Yeah, this is a stunt. Not so much to get McCain out of the debates, but to get Palin out of hers.”
YOUR hyperlink says:
“The aide did not know whether Gov. Palin would attend Oct. 2’s vice presidential debate if Congress, by that point, still hasn’t reached a deal.
Another aide said: ‘The VP debate is days off. We’re focused on getting a deal and getting to the debate on Friday.'”
Where is your support for this statement?
and McCain’s latest proposal is to reschedule the first Presidential debate, um, right on top of the Vice Presidential debate.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlan…
(Hannity doesn’t count)
If she loses in an interview, how’s she going to do against Biden let alone foreign dictators?
BTW, did McCain just “cut and run” from the debates?
Why start now?
Let me tell you when I believe the US started to win the “hearts and minds” contest. Forty five years ago when Kennedy was assassinated, i was a volunteer living in a rural area in colombia…first American anyone had ever seen. I had only been there a few weeks and people were still very wary of me when Kennedy got killed. People thought since I wasn’t panicked that somehow I was part of the conspiracy which killed Kennedy….a bit tense ..since I kept saying that the country would be okay….then, the whole world watched Americans pick up the pieces and go on….no rioting in the streets; no hiding….Mrs. Kennedy took her kids out in public….the mail was delivered, trains ran.
That is the kind of courage which comes from believing in your basic government institutions….that is the kind of courage the everyday America has…..the campaign should go on; the debates should go on.
McCain is inside Obama’s OODA loop.
Either Obama runs against his “bipartisan change” message and is derelict in his oath of office as a Senator, or he’s following McCain’s lead.
Hopefully they don’t all get together and strap us with billions of dollars in spreading fascism now.
You mean like not showing up for any votes in six months?
Miss the one time people will care, thus marking out the “six month” talking point, or follow John McCain’s lead like a junior Senator reminded of his duty.
Brilliant move politically. Hopefully they don’t waste lots of our money subsidizing jackass economics.
It’s McCain who hasn’t been seen in the Senate in six months. I believe his missed-vote percentage is up to 65%. The next highest Senator is in the high forties.
That all disappears when Obama doesn’t show up for the one vote that actually matters.
He’s shown up for many votes. This would likely be one of them.
Are you trying to claim that if Obama shows up to vote in the Senate, it’s because McCain made him do it? That’s just stupid.
Since McCain called for it. And after all, “showing up to vote” isn’t exactly leadership, though it’s what Barack knows best.
I’m surprised to see that from you.
The Bush gang asked for something, the Congress said “Fuck off,” then Congress started writing their own bill. Did you think they weren’t going to hold a vote on it unless McCain swung in?
What will McCain do in DC tomorrow? He’s not on the Senate Banking Committee. He doesn’t have any allies in the Senate. He’s “the maverick” remember? He literally has NOTHING to do expect waste everyone else’s time.
All he’s doing is cutting and running from this debate. Which brings up the next question. Will this be the first presidential debate that was purposely no-showed by one candidate in American history?
You mean as the guy in the middle, brokering bipartisan deals in the deadlocked, 60-vote-necessary Senate, like he always does?
Yeah, he’s got no place there.
Send your boy to go cast a “present” vote, while McCain does what he always does – hammer on finding the middle ground.
And I like the whole “Chris Dodd’s got this all in hand.” I’m sure the guy who’s the only Senator to have taken more money from the FMs than Barack Obama has things well in hand.
Isn’t there a cliche for that? Something about foxes and hen-houses?
I never said he didn’t have any friends. I said “allies in the senate,” which as the self-described Maverick, he simple doesn’t. The only brokering McCain did was during the S&L scandal. Most of his own party will tell you that. It’s a simple fact.
But he has plenty of friends in DC, but for the most part they hang out on K Street. Speaking of which, where’s that $2Million Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae lobbyist Rick Davis been hiding out lately?
And again, do you pride yourself with ignorance of history? McCain has abandoned his position in the US Senate for more than a year and bring up a well known legislative process from the IL senate against Obama. Pathetic.
McCain’s campaign is jumping from one gimmick to the next. His entire campaign is a deck of cards about to fall.
A house of cards about to fall.
Or maybe, McCain’s not playing with a full deck?
I just created a new saying! Whatever it is, he’s running around like his comb-over is on fire.
One thing is sure. It’s NOT Presidential.
how much better Obama looks after today. Can you imagine McCain in a crisis? I thought he was supposed to be a “tested hand” ready to answer that 3 AM phone call.
Well the phone rang and JSM sent it to voicemail.
The New York Times is reporting McCain is not prepared for the debate.
but here’s the political reason
And for what? A grandstanding photo op.
Did you see the clip of him explaining the situation that they showed on the Daily Show the other night. At one point he says, as if this is news to him, and I’m closely paraphrasing here… turns out a bunch of these things are inter-connected!
Later on he gets lost,as usual, in a metaphor between house of cards and deck of cards. The whole thing was quite jaw dropping, showing a complete lack of understanding or ability to explain anything about the economic crisis in anything approaching a cogent manner.
What must the rest of the world think of us for electing this ignorant buffoon twice? And how did he get an MBA?
McCain is forcing Obama’s hand? Is that really your reality? You complain about Dodd but you ignore Paulson’s connections to Wall Street. The administration tried to do another panic vote and got called out on it. Now when Congress is taking the proposal and engaging in crafting a better bill you claim they can only work when John McCain is present. Maybe McCain can rush in some of those care packages that he boxed up in Mississippi. They must be getting pretty stale by now. It is kind of fun in a perverse way reading these comments. I have to accept at face value that you really really believe that John McCain is a tactical genius and this is one of the smartest moves in a long line of strategic triumphs. It is amazing what humans can believe. I think the other cliche was that one is born every minute.
because you Neo-Cons only deal in absolutes.
It’s good thing our Congressional leaders do not, like Chris Dodd who proposed the third way for this bailout, not an up or down (two option) vote on what Bush/Paulson pitched.
This is what’s wrong with your ideology, and your candidate; a very narrow world-view of black and white.
The third option in this case, is mocking McCain for his obvious political gimmickry (which isn’t leadership), and showing up to the debate without him since Obama can do more than one thing at a time (without a nap). I’m sure the American people will love being stood up by McSame who have overwhelming said the debates should go forward.
You must really be miffed at McCain.
Face it – your guy’s been puh-owned again. McCain now owns this narrative, despite being out-gunned on the policy. And the fix will have his name, not Obama’s on it.
The narrative is McCain’s scared to debate!
Many presidential debates have taken place during the times of crisis. Reagan v. Carter and Gore v. Bush to name just two of the most recent.
Face it, McCain is cutting and running right now.
What crisis was that? Were we almost falling into a depression due to government over-reach into financial decisions, too?
McCain is showing leadership – he has his priorities straight. He first swore an oath to serve as Senator of the United States, not a Presidential Candidate.
I guarantee you’ll hear “I’d rather lose an election than see my country slip into depression” in the coming days. And it will resonate, especially if Obama keeps playing childish political point-scoring.
For all the tough talk on terrorism you right-wing nuts preach you sure do have a short memory. The USS Cole was bombed on Oct. 12, 2000. and yet the presidential debates went on.
If McCain swore and oath serve, why hasn’t he done his duty in over a year? His missed more votes than a Tim Johnson!
And as for McCain’s one-liners, nothing can ever top “the fundamentals of our economy are strong.” That will be THE line of the campaign. And trying to paint his opponent as un-patriotic shows how fucking pathetic and desperate he is.
Thanks for the chuckles yokel. You’re always good for at least one laugh.
I didn’t know transparent political stunts were called such. I suppose when you’re bankrupt you reach for whatever straws you can.
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I find the comments especially helpful.
Those are just the first eight.
The next one is from someone who identifies himself as a retired Colonel.
Then, to be fair, there are three pro-McCain comments, followed by another two that see it for the stunt it is. On the Christian Science Monitor, comments are 3 that believe its ‘leadership’ and 12 that think it’s phony.
to drum up support for the campaign. “just $ 10,000 dollars a year in additional taxes can make a difference in a Wall St. bankers life “
He is more needed to strike a bargain. Thus will he too ‘suspend his campaign’ and cancel his TV ads and fundraising” After all it’s not a time for partisanship. (And McCain did find time to meet with elitist ‘redneck’ loving Lady Rotshchild for a fundraising call).
You mean the self-described economic illiterate is going to single handily fix our economic crisis? And as for his economic brain trust… Keep Foreclosure Phil Gramm and Golden Parachute Carly away from that table!
McCain has nothing, absolutely nothing good to offer here. He had an opportunity to take up Obama’s offer to work together, but he decided to grandstand. He decided to put his political ambitions ahead of what’s best for our country.
Plain and simple, he’s a really old drama queen.
EXCLUSIVE: LETTERMAN MOCKS MCCAIN CANCELLATION
Wed Sep 24 2008 17:41:58 ET
David Letterman tells audience that McCain called him today to tell him he had to rush back to DC to deal with the economy.
Then in the middle of the taping Dave got word that McCain was, in fact just down the street being interviewed by Katie Couric. Dave even cut over to the live video of the interview, and said, “Hey Senator, can I give you a ride home?”
Earlier in the show, Dave kept saying, “You don’t suspend your campaign. This doesn’t smell right. This isn’t the way a tested hero behaves.” And he joked: “I think someone’s putting something in his metamucil.”
“He can’t run the campaign because the economy is cratering? Fine, put in your second string quarterback, Sara Palin. Where is she?”
“What are you going to do if you’re elected and things get tough? Suspend being president? We’ve got a guy like that now!”
Developing…
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He was one fire tonight!
Did you all notice the make-up girl in that clip? She’s paid over $5,000 by the campaign to do McCain’s make-up and has worked for other celebrities on American Idol and So You Think You Can Dance.
$5,000 to make him look like a Yoda-turtle? Maybe it costs 10 to look like Darth Vader?
I guess when you’re using the Bush playbook to run your campaign you shouldn’t be surprised when people view you as no different than Bush.
And cutting and running from the debates (a public forum!) isn’t going to improve the public perception.
The “Tell” that McCain’s “let’s not debate” gambit is a purely political desperation move came in the companion statement that they might postpone the Vice Presidential debate – scheduled for Oct. 2 – if a bailout plan still hadn’t been reached.
Now, the reason for postponing the Presidential debate is that McCain is supposedly too busy saving the country to even spend a couple of hours on a Friday night debating foreign policy.
What’s the reason for postponing the VP debate, then? Sarah Palin isn’t in the Senate and doesn’t have a federal job.
That, “my friends,” is known as a Tell.
After all, she has now seen Wall St.
She knows more about energy than “anyone in the country” so maybe economic expertise is another of her extremely well hidden talents.
was what I didn’t get. Why move the VP debate? It seems like the dumbest thing ever.
I mean, it’s nice that McCain wants to “put politics aside” 39 days before the election, but this would have been a lot less disingenuous if he had done it BEFORE everyone decided that the bailout plan, in its original form, was flawed.
The campaigns have internal polling. My guess is they know they have lost a few key states. Now they have to protect the Senate and Congressional seats.
McCain can not win the Presidency, so they have to stop the Palin / McCain ticket from losing races for the down tickets. And given the last few interviews, my guess is the debates would sink every republican running for office.
That would be my guess. There is no reason to suspend your camapign less than 40 days out from an election.
is that the McCain campaign wanted to reschedule Friday’s debate for the time slot allotted for the VP debate. Then, delay and quibble about the VP debate until the election, until it’s too late and, presto, we never get a VP debate.
This keeps Palin from embarrasing herself and all Republicans for that matter.
The Presidential debate will influence voters.
To be honest, I have no idea what the hell the McCain camp is thinking. It all seems like another knee jerk reaction that was not well thought out.
I think you got it (Olberman said the same thing on Letterman last nite)–the tactical goal here is to keep Palin off stage, and gambling they can pull it off with skeptical voters and media.
In a recent NY Review of Books essay by Joseh Lilyveld, he states that by nature McC is fundamentally a gambler. This whole sequence beginning with the Palin nomination and now this “suspension” is looking like a gambler on a losing streak, trying to get back by making more and bigger bets.