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July 26, 2013 11:31 AM UTC

Stay Classy, Ted Harvey

  • by: Colorado Pols

Talking Points Memo reports on the Stop Hillary PAC, getting significant attention for a group fronted by the relatively obscure Colorado Sen. Ted Harvey of Highlands Ranch. Though not an ingratiating kind of attention:

The Stop Hillary PAC, which just unveiled its leadership team earlier this week, posted the image (shown below) on July 18. The top half of the image includes a photo of the former New York senator and first lady next to the caption "Hillary Clinton 2016," while the bottom half shows Stewie Griffin — the precocious baby in the hit animated comedy "Family Guy" — holding a gun in his mouth. 

A spokesman for Stop Hillary PAC did not immediately respond to TPM's request for comment.

After the jump, since some folks are rightfully sensitive about these things. 


Not much local reaction to this story as of yet, but one Twitter user is at least trying to educate Sen. Harvey on the issue of suicide in Colorado, which if you haven't heard is actually no laughing matter at all:


But it's the sort of nastiness we've become accustomed to in our local politics. Perhaps, when shown to a national audience, our collective tolerance for this kind of deplorable behavior from local Republicans is what looks worst.


30 thoughts on “Stay Classy, Ted Harvey

  1. So do you find the Stewie image offensive in of itself, or only when view in conjuction with Hillary?  If only the latter, would you find it offensive if it was put next to an image of the Ravens beating the Broncos?

    1. How about it'd be tatseless and stupid in either case, but even more so coming from group fronted by a public servant?

      Do you think it's okay, or are you going to stick with "I have no opinion, I'm just asking questions?"

      1. My opinion is that I always thought it was CONSERVATIVES who were trying to decry Family Guy/South Park.  I'm shocked, SHOCKED that it is progressives here who now think their humor is too insensitive for the masses. 

        /slight sarcasm

          1. If I took a position here Curmudegeon we'd spend all day debating what I think and why.  While that might be interesting, what I think is frankly not at issue here.  What is at issue is what Ted Harvey thinks and what ColoradoPols thinks about what Ted Harvey thinks.  

            But thanks for playing…oh look – SQUIRREL!

        1. I'll go first.  I don't think it's a very good idea. This is not because I'm shocked. I just don't think it makes Ted Harvey or his organization look the way a public official probably wants himself or his organization to look while opposing a powerful potential candidate with a very good chance of winning.  After all, it will only resonate with those who already would vote for anybody, including the Devil himself, but Clinton and may needlessly offend some with serious agendas, such as preventing suicide among the young, and not much of a sense of humor about it. 

          On the other hand, it might be a good, catchy fund raiser. So reasonable people can certainly disagree on whether this was a smart move or an unwise one without resorting to pearl clutching or changing the subject to hypotheticals about conservatives and progressives in general.

          For the record, I'm progressive, as you've probably noticed, and I don't find Family Guy very amusing. I used to prefer American Dad but I got tired of that one long ago, too. Also wish The Simpsons had quit years ago before they completely.

          I got those lines again for no reason. Didn't click on anything. Just typed my comment. Tried something to fix it.. Here goes. 


    2. Tricky question, counselor, …

      I guess I'd probably find it funnier if they had used a picture of Gessler or Brophy with a gun in their mouth …

      (… and, maybe, … big maybe … Stewie with his hand on the trigger.  That's just me, though, YMMV.)

      1. And that is the point.  The issue isn't that this is involves a suicidal picture of Stewie for many…its that it associates it with a partisan image they disagree with. 

        1. I thought said you weren't making a point, or taking a position?  But thanks anyway for biting at my joke — I guess now we know where you stand …

          (And, if you're gonna' generalize the "many," from this one, satirical lil'-ol'-me few, well then, your "logic" is nearly about as thin as any point you were trying to make …

  2. @ El–

    Conservatives trying to look cool and failing amazingly.  Yawn.  Not even worth reaching for the popcorn.  Lame, just lame.  I'm not shocked at all, this is the buffoonery I expect from the Repubs. 

    1. South Park could loosely be described as conservative…but in the punk libertarian sense.  Beyond that I agree that there is a coolness gap between conservatives and liberals. 

  3. The Stop Hillary crowd is pretty much the Fox News crowd…white, over 65, and very, very ill-informed.  It seems doubtful that a Family Guy reference resonates much with them.  This ad raises the question in my mind as to whether Harvey knew the picture was from Family Guy (and alienate or bewilder, or both, the target audience), or whether it was just the only baby with a gun in its mouth picture available.

      1. Yup, a good article.  One of my favorite quotes from Dudley, referring to his buddy Randy Lee Baumgardner:  

        “Randy’s not going to win any award for being a brain surgeon,” Brown says. “But he’ll vote 100 percent better than Jean White would have.”

        Reminds me of the gun debate I attended months ago in Denver, at which Baumgardner proclaimed hammers kill more people than guns do (a "bullet" no doubt fed to him by Dudley sitting on the same panel).  Randy appeared genuinely surprised at the loud groan from the audience.



      2. It also explains why ArapaGOP's services as Information Minister for the local GOP are no longer desired:

        These recent developments suggest Colorado Republicans may finally be ready to go to war against Dudley Brown. After two decades of seeing him run roughshod over the state party, they’ve got nothing else to lose. “You can’t let a few bullies continue to hurt the party,” says Call, the Colorado GOP chair. “At some point, you have to fight back.”

        While the "Guns Over People" Party haven't changed their position, they now realize who is sucking away contributors, and hurting their fundraising efforts.

        1. Could this mean the internecine war has begun in earnest? I see a number of Republicans wading into the Rubicon. I wonder if they have the cajones to cross it.

          1. Certainly not Shorty:

            State Senator Greg Brophy, who is perhaps Brown’s closest ally at the Capitol, calls White’s contention “a bunch of crap. We got put in the minority by Colorado Democracy Alliance, by [the GOP meltdown around unlikely gubernatorial nominee] Dan Maes, and by a liberal-controlled redistricting process.” Brophy, who is contemplating his own run for governor in 2014, agrees that Brown has cost Republicans the occasional seat, but he also argues that Brown’s influence on the party has been mostly positive.

            If somehow Brophy was elected Governor, I'm sure he'd find a cabinet spot for Dudley.

    1. Well – since we're threadjacked anyway…

      Eli Stokols has game.

      Governors Maes, Tancredo and McGinnis,  Senator Buck and Dud Brown are missing the point. 

      Maybe Mr. Brown should run for governor. And request to keep his current job.  As long as he's not plagarized anything for fee, nor been an uncercover cop in Kansas, he's a lock.

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