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December 20, 2005 09:00 AM UTC

Tuesday Open Thread

  • 12 Comments
  • by: Colorado Pols

This time next week, it’ll all be over.

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12 thoughts on “Tuesday Open Thread

  1. Quiet? I don’t know about that. I wonder if the Governors order is actually enforced….

    Anyhow, I take it the testimonies under the ProgressNowAction ad are for Pols and not the ad.
    Yep.

  2. (from representative conyers’ post at daily kos…)

    The report finds there is substantial evidence the President, the Vice-President and other high ranking members of the Bush Administration misled Congress and the American people regarding the decision to go to war in Iraq; misstated and manipulated intelligence information regarding the justification for such war; countenanced torture and cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment in Iraq; and permitted inappropriate retaliation against critics of their Administration.

    The Report concludes that a number of these actions amount to prima facie evidence (evidence sufficiently strong to presume the allegations are true) that federal criminal laws have been violated. Legal violations span from false statements to Congress to whistleblower laws.

    The Report also concludes that these charges clearly rise to the level of impeachable conduct. However, because the Administration has failed to respond to requests for information about these charges, it is not yet possible to conclude that an impeachment inquiry or articles of impeachment are warranted.

    In response to the Report, I have already taken a number of actions. First, I have introduced a resolution (H. Res. 635) creating a Select Committee with subpoena authority to investigate the misconduct of the Bush Administration with regard to the Iraq war and report on possible impeachable offenses. In Watergate, for example, the Congress did not begin matters as an impeachment inquiry, but investigated matters ? through the Ervin Committee ? and referred impeachable evidence to the Judiciary Committee.

    Second, I have introduced Resolutions regarding both President Bush (H. Res. 636) and Vice-President Cheney (H. Res. 637) proposing that they be censured by Congress based on the uncontroverted evidence already on the record and their failure to respond to Congressional and public inquiries about these matters and have never accounted for their many specific misstatements in the run up to War.

    As you know, taking these steps means that I am likely to be criticized by the political and media establishments in Washington and attacked by the right wing noise machine. There is a school of thought among Washington political consultants that criticizing the President about Iraq will make Democrats appear to be weak on national security. There is a media establishment that marginalizes politicians for espousing beliefs held by the majority of Americans. The right wing noise machine in turn retaliates against the President’s critics.

    Be that as it may, I just could not be silent any longer. The title of the report is exactly right: the Constitution is in Crisis. There are serious and well-substantiated allegations that the Executive Branch has usurped the sole power of the Congress to declare war by deceiving the Congress about the evidence for war. There are serious and well-substantiated allegations that the Executive Branch has deceived the American people to manufacture the people’s consent for war.

    If you agree with me, I am going to need your help like never before. Please go to my website, http://www.johnconyers.com, where you will find an action center, including a copy of the Report via Raw Story, and ways you can help. Also visit http://www.censurebush.org to join with other activists who want to move this issue forward.

  3. Sorry for the T typo. Should have been an I.
    I was told earlier that we shouldn’t talk about national issues unless they directly involve a Colorado politician or are a HUGE national topic.
    So drop it Sir Han.

  4. Gecko: If you’re referring to Andrew Johnson, you have a good point. If you’re referring to Lyndon Johnson, suggest you take a look at the history. Sure, LBJ had the war, but LBJ was responsible for the most aggressive assault on the ignoble disparity of class in this country than any President save, perhaps, FDR. LBJ’s assault was also one on bigotry and racism. If you call these “worst president” offenses then one would, of course, want to take a look at your particular sensibilities.

    In keeping with the theme of this sight (something about Colorado, please!) let me suggest Bill Owens’ is looking for a job, folks, and, lordy, lordy, he sure don’t want to offend ya’ll who have those cheap chump illegals saving you hundreds of thousands of dollars doing whatever it is you have them doing to the exclusion of American citizens who are still looking for work. Hooray for Guest Worker status! In the mean time, will the $32Million from Denver’s General Fund (taxpayer cash) to the Denver Health Medical Center really be enough to pay for the afflictions of the illegals in the next year? Nope. Don’t think so. But, hey, Bill needs a job and if supporting a Guest Worker program is what it takes, then, hell, let’s get on the bandwagon!

  5. Gecko: The impeachment of a president is huge. Let’s get on with it. He’s wasted our treaury, our values, our reputation and our honor. This administration is a disgrace, and so are all who support it.

    To the contrary, the message received from the hosts of this site have said, reserve national issues for the Open Threads.

    I can recommend a great alzheimer’s doc.

  6. Let’s just Impeach Peter and get it over with.

    Peter you just annoy people and make no sense with your crapola of the mouth and I just have to say….. You’re fired!

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