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April 03, 2012 03:18 PM UTC

Tuesday Open Thread

  • by: Colorado Pols

“Though silence is not necessarily an admission, it is not a denial either.”



54 thoughts on “Tuesday Open Thread

  1. “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.” Cicero

  2. who haven’t read the “Obama swings back on energy production.” thread; I highly recommend it. Our three stooges (A-Bot, Libby, and ellbee, heads exploding, outdid themselves trying to respond. Seldom have I seen such a huge bucket o’ bullshit.

    Very intertaining…if you like that sort of idiotic blabbering.    

    1. And in appreciation of the laughs, I’d like to share with them, especially with ‘tad, this Rasmussen poll, knowing what great store ‘tad sets by this fine polling entity. In fact, I’m surprised ‘tad has yet to share it with us himself:

      A new Rasmussen poll finds that Republican Wisconsin Scott Walker is in trouble of being recalled June 5, with a majority, 52 percent, saying they will vote him out less than two years after he took office and immediately went to work to cut the power of public service unions.

      The poll revealed a remarkable shift from February when 54 percent of Wisconsin voters said they would vote against the recall. In today’s poll, just 47 percent said they would vote against recalling the governor. Details will be released at 1 p.m.

      Worse for Walker: 53 percent disapprove of his job as governor with a whopping 46 percent saying they “strongly disapprove” of Walker. Majorities of both men and women now support his recall

    2. …we say ‘NexGen’.  Have the Three Stooges forgotten about the Bush-era ‘Clean Coal’ experiment that dumped $500mm in taxpayer dollars to prop up?  Ameren finally walked away from the deal, citing the inability to ascertain that any amount of money would ever make it viable.  NexGen failed because it’s a flawed and expensive concept; ‘Clean Coal’ plants won’t be a part of anyone’s future on the planet.  Solar is seeing cost reductions unthinkable a decade ago and has created over 100,000 new jobs in the past five years. Coal? Its cost-curves and job creation numbers are trending the opposite direction.  

  3. A similar thought is this: If you are quiet when it comes to injustice, it doesn’t mean you are against pursuing justice, but it doesn’t mean you are for it, either. That in which we invest our energy, becomes our legacy.

    Women make up 51% of the country, so we are not a minority, but THE MAJORITY. Yet, we are grossly under-represented in government at every level — the most glaring of which is the Office of the Presidency. President Obama, although male, gets this. The GOP has introduced more than 1100 bills in the past 2 years to weaken women’s rights nation-wide. Men, if you care about justice, join us. Time to fight back! (Women — fight now, or forever hold your peace when your daughters have lost their rights.)  


      there’s numerous passages where Obama infuriates the women around him as  he is/was the quintessential “man’s man” and gave them short shrift in meeting after meeting.

      This surprised me, as I had always assumed the First Lady would have had more influence regarding this issue.

      1. he had 3 people he was willing to listen to on the financial issues and all 3 happened to be male. Yes I think he was also more dismissive of the few women involved, but he was also dismissive of any man other than Geitner/Summers/Emanuel.

        And unfortunately those three were focused on keeping Wall St alive as is, not on what was best for the country.

        1. simply that he infuriated women in policy meetings by essentially ignoring them.It was a dynamic in the first two years of his WH, expounded upon at some length in the book, and not denied anywhere to my knowledge.

          Women are fiestier, more passionate, more dangerous when messed with, than men imho, so I applaud the Republicans positions as I think I can predict the backlash.

          Don’t mess with Momma!

    2. 2010 Census.

      females   157.0 million

      males 151 million

      Over age 85  -more than twice as many women as men

      Voting age and eligible voters: (non convicts, citizens etc)

      Women 55.7%

      2010 turnout

      women 46%

      More women have voted in every presidential election than men in my voting lifetime.

      The point is that as a voting bloc women are …a disparate  demographic.   They don’t vote for women. they don’t vote as a bloc.  They do, mostly, vote D. So, thanks for that.

  4. last night?

    “Harper Lee: Hey Boo”–I highly recommend it; not sure when it’s airing again but it was brilliant.

    Explored Lee’s life, had interviews with her 100 year old sister, went into great detail about her friendship from childhood with Truman Capote and what her book means in American culture. Moreover, what it meant at the time it was first published, in 1960, before the Civil Rights Movement had really taken hold.

    Fantastic documentary.  

  5. “Stocks jump to highest level in years.”  Surely all those who place the blame for the price of gas at the pump on Obama will now be happy to celebrate him as the savior of the stock market. Wonder when and where  ArapG, ‘tad and elbee will be buying us all celebratory drinks.  Can’t wait!  

    1. it isn’t a fracking fliud cocktail, I’m in.

      I would even make the trip to Denver for that occasion. How about it guys?

      ” A toast to Barack Obama …Savior of the Stock Market, Champion of the Middle Class, Destroyer of Americas’ Enemies.”

      just sign on below…we’ll discuss the drinks later   😉

    2. as businesses cut costs over the last few years in fear of Obama’s next missive.

      Meanwhile the Denver daily reports that:

      Sheriff Sullivan pled guilty to meth for sex, but couldn’t answer the question as to wether or not he’d had meth sex with minors. Apparently this was due to his being on meth at the various and many times he traded meth for sex.

      A federal court struck down Colorado’s abusive and over reaching Amazon tax. Reps Looper and Stephens unite this evening in glory.

      DU has bed bugs, second time they’ve been found this semester. Which one of you leftist DU buggers deposited the bugs to DU?

      1. Let me guess. I think you may be trying to say that Obama isn’t at all responsible for stock market gains but, along wih with bearing full responsibility for the price of gas at the pump, he’s responsible for eveything bad. Which naturally brings us to meth, sex with minors and bed bugs.  Very coherent ‘tad.  

      2. This always happens.  I recommend against home visits because it always causes regressions and here he is again.  Libby, you know you were suppose to be back at the State Hospital yesterday by 4:30 PM.  Remember the last time, when we had to shoot you up with all that Thorazine?  We don’t want to go back there, do we?  

    1. but you must be right since they claim “streamlining”.  I remember how I used to miss my real, big fat city newspapers when I visited my mom in the area served by the Ft. Lauderdale paper. Hers was so skinny and small townie compared to ours.  Probably about the same now. Somehow I don’t think continually offering less to the remaining print customers is going to solve their problems. Just the opposite.  More will drop it.  Anybody know if any other dailies are available for home delivery in the Denver metro area? I really do like something I can read at my kitchen table with my coffee.

    2. the Inquirer & Daily News just sold to some Philly deep pockets for all of $55mil.  These same assets were sold in 2006 for $515mil and then turned over in a 2010 bankruptcy for $139mil.  That is some depressing depreciation.  

      I grew up with the Post-Dispatch & the Globe Democrat as my 2 hefty dailies and then moved east to the sound of an “Inkwire” thunking on my drive every morning.  I’ve really strayed from my daily ink-stained newsprint fix.   Overcoming my news addiction and my use of Craigslist def contributes to their demise.  

      Maybe I should renew the weekend DP so at least I could share the joy of Silly Putty & Saturday comics with my boys (stuff just doesn’t work pressed against an iPad).  

  6. what with $ister $arah on GMA their puppy-lovin’ hearts are just all aflutter while they wear out the RWD button on the DVRs.  

    How can a red-blooded Repub not get all bothered by their favorite siren bad-mouthing “lamestream media” while sitting alongside Al Roker & Matt Lauer? And now try to tell me how $iren $arah doesn’t have Presidential material — why she can toss to the weather or softball a fluff piece better than Lincoln or Reagan ever could.

  7. seems a campaign mgr for one of the GOP circus clowns offers a bit of insight on the honorable Executin’ Gov in a published-today “Inside the Circus” eBook.  

    Surfin’ the intertubes is just way too much fun today.  You can find some fun teasers over @Rick Perry Was On ‘Sufficient Dosages’ Of Painkillers During Debates, E-Book Claims  

    The Daily Caller first relayed the book’s report of an incident, presumably prompted by pain medication, in which the “manager of a rival campaign” supposedly witnessed Perry belting out the lyrics to “I’ve Been Working on the Railroad” during a trip to the bathroom before an October debate.

    “Wondering who was making all the noise, the campaign manager turned his head and saw, to his surprise, the governor of Texas,” the book states. “Perry came down the row of about twenty urinals and stood companionably close by.”

    The authors continue: “Nonplussed, the campaign manager made a hasty exit; as the bathroom door closed, he could hear Perry still merrily singing away: “I-I-I’ve been working on the ra-a-i-i-l-road, all-l-l the live-long day.”

    Gov. Rick on drugs during debate — priceless!

    1. Had there been a drug test for running for office, Perry would have flunked.  Oh but he would have had a doctor’s note? Do any of these pee in a cup if you’re poor or unemployed laws include provision for those taking pain medication for legitimate reasons?  Or aren’t the poor and unemployed allowed to have pain.

        1. It’s an ongoing story of when others pushed back, Obama gave in. Geitner flat-out refused to follow Obama’s direct order to roll up Citi-Group and Obama accepted it.

          Look at how he’s handled Israel where, when Israel pushed back, Obama backed off. Which is too bad for Israel as well as peace in the Middle East.

          Look at how the GOP pretty much got everything they wanted in the middle two years.

          You may have a fair point that he’s a good administrator, but he’s lousy at the political fighting required to get the difficult legislation through.

  8. my favorite Court watcher:

    Congress has no constitutional authority to punish people who don’t want to have health insurance, Paul Clement argued last week before the United States Supreme Court. This week? The heralded attorney is arguing, to another panel of federal judges, that Congress has plenty of constitutional authority to punish people who don’t want to marry someone of the opposite sex. Last week, Clement defended states’ rights and labeled as “unprecedented” the federal health care policy. This week, he says that Congress can dictate terms of a federal marriage policy over the objections of states which have legalized same-sex marriage.

    Welcome to the forlorn world of the Defense of Marriage Act, the teetering federal law which defines marriage as solely that between a man and a woman and thus deprives same-sex married couples of certain federal rights and privileges. This is the law that President Bill Clinton triangulated onto the books six weeks before the 1996 election. It is the law whose guts were fileted in 2010 by an esteemed federal trial judge. It is the law the Obama Administration last year all but gave up defending. And it may just be the law, with all due respect to Proposition 8, that gets same-sex marriage to the Supreme Court first.

    On Wednesday, before the 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Boston, it will be left to the House of Representatives to defend the honor of the statute. Led by the indefatigable Clement (watching him these past few weeks is like watching Jerry Lewis in a Jerry Lewis movie), the bipartisan lawmakers’ group (spending your tax dollars) seeks to overturn U.S. District Judge Joseph Tauro’s 2010 decision striking down a key provision of the statute. If the House loses this appeal, if a federal circuit declares the DOMA unconstitutional, the Supreme Court would be far more likely to intervene. Put that on your potential calendar for next term.

  9. McNulty and friends take off to California for a leadership training right in the middle of the session, while bills in the House sit on the calendar. Now we’re hearing that the long bill isn’t going to be introduced in House until next week since they’re taking Friday off and McNulty has been absent.

    In the long run it doesn’t really matter, but for insiders it is very, very apparent that the Speaker has no idea how to administrate and govern over the House.

    Hope the training went well, Frank.  

  10. Just so you get this straight–this is ONLY ‘preferred’ by BLM and some guy named David Ludham who does the bidding of out-of-state billionaires–no one else, and that ain’t hardly an exaggeration–wants this.  

    North Fork Fracking

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