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December 13, 2009 10:29 PM UTC

Anti-McInnis "Tea Party" Pumps Maes, "Dr. Evil" Initiatives

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  • by: Colorado Pols

The Denver Post reports:

“Someone tried to tell you there is only one Republican candidate for governor,” conservative GOP gubernatorial candidate Dan Maes told an audience of mostly supporters.

The Evergreen businessman was referring to his opponent in the Republican primary, Scott McInnis, whom he accused of attempting to decide the campaign in back rooms.

“It’s time to find a candidate you believe in,” Maes said, someone like him who is committed to cutting the size of government, not some career politician or lawyer.

About 100 Tea Party activists and conservative Republicans – some waving placards – rallied Saturday afternoon at the steps of the Capitol.

“We’re the grassroots movement,” said Jackie Rhodes, 42, of Loveland, who is a Maes supporter.

“I think they are going to be surprised,” she said, referring to the McInnis camp…

Conservative sources tell us the number was substantially higher, but that’s always a guessing game unless the cops see a reason to count. Former Greenwood Village mayor and principal “Dr. Evil” initiative backer Freda Poundstone was there, however, more or less directly accusing GOP insiders of attempting to buy the primary elections, and asserting that GOP leadership was ‘afraid’ of her initiatives. She then introduced upstart gubernatorial candidate Dan Maes, who, as you can imagine, was not so afraid of them.

GOP Senate candidate Jane Norton’s campaign attempted to set up a booth at this ‘anti-insider’ rally, which was reportedly greeted with much scorn and confrontation and quickly abandoned to the mud (photo right).

Many in the crowd were discussing the possibility that Maes would mount an independent challenge to McInnis, though they simultaneously expressed hope that they would be able to make their voices heard at the Republican caucuses–and Maes has said an independent bid is not what he wants. Down to the last “Tea Partier” there was a sense that former gubernatorial candidate Josh Penry was their original choice, speakers and people in the crowd repeated accusations of big donors purging Penry from the race. And nobody believed for a minute that McInnis did not set up his ill-fated introduction on Fox News as “the country’s biggest Tea Party candidate.”

It’s tough to know where this goes from here, but we’d say for all the contempt directed at the “Tea Partiers” by serious people (which we generally share, make no mistake), they have a remarkably lucid understanding of what’s happened in the Republican primary so far. And they don’t like it. We talked a few days ago about that poll showing conservatives–in bigger numbers than actually show up at “Tea Parties”–would vote for their kind of candidate over a generic institutional Republican.

We know a couple of newly-minted “frontrunners” who hope like hell that’s wrong…

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39 thoughts on “Anti-McInnis “Tea Party” Pumps Maes, “Dr. Evil” Initiatives

  1. If they were trying to influence the Republican party from within they would welcome both McInnis & Norton to their events. They would then ask them the hard questions they want answered – but they would be thrilled that they showed up.

    These are a small bunch of nut cases that have drunk the kool-aid and have no interest in anything other than rigid philosophical purity. If they did manage to get one of their fellow nut cases elected, they would start railing against them.

    The smartest thing the GOP mainstream can do is tell them to take a hike. First off, what are they going to do – go vote for a Democrat? Second, the moderate middle of the electorate will only vote for someone who is a grown-up.

    Norton seems to be handling this pretty well – trying to reach out at times, but not trying to be the “teabagger” candidate. She benefits from having Ken Buck still in the race – they don’t feel like she rigged the game.

    The McInnis team on the other hand…

    1. “These are a small bunch of nut cases that have drunk the kool-aid and have no interest in anything other than rigid philosophical purity.”  Add self promotion, and you’ve nailed it.

    2. all problems with rasmussen aside, that these are not a “small bunch of nut cases that have drunk the kool-aid” that a substantial number of Americans buy into this crap and would support a candidate that ran on the kool-aid platform. The “moderate middle” of the electorate put the tea party first on a generic congressional ballot.

      I don’t think anyone really knows how to handle these tea baggers. McInnis clearly doesn’t know, Palin et al. pretend to know, but at the end of the day what do you do when you’ve made mass psychosis and nihilism mainstream?

      A Nietzchean conundrum if there ever was one.

      1. I think it’s people saying “a pox on both your houses” because they don’t see either party focused on those that are hurting. And as such they’re open to alternatives and the teabaggers are the only alternative being offered up right now.

        I think Nancy Pelosi understands this and over the next 6 months we’ll see the House at least start working to address jobs, etc. And then it swings to us.

          1. And with rare exceptions they are not pushing a specific agenda (although like everyone else they have opinions on various items). Rather, it’s this feeling that we’re in a world of hurt and Washington is busy doing nothing.

        1. have wasted 12 months not focused on jobs, but rather schemes and regime building.

          The people may not forget, just as they will not forget those who implement policy to take our taxes without a TABOR vote.

          1. attempted to obstruct at every opportunity and refused to engage at any level to work together with Democrats to repair some of the extensive damage done to this country by thirty years of zombie Reaganomics.  What startling stupidity by conservatives to continue to believe that unregulated capitalism will magically heal all that ails us.  Greed will never die or be disowned by these stupid people.

          2. Leave the private sector alone and jobs will follow?

            Or gov’t needs to lead on jobs?

            It can’t be both. Choose. Otherwise you should be giving our free aspirin when you post.

        2. “a pox on both your houses” but the Tea Partiers are not as tiny a minority as you think (hope?)and of course many who don’t show up at their rallies share theirs views.  What percentage of mainstream Rs and Ds show up at rallies? Rallies are just the tip of the iceberg.

          But why hope for them to come to their senses?  Limbaugh lovers were enough in 2008 to make Rush lots of money but not enough to push Rush’s choice through the primary or McCain, once selected to the Limbaugh crowd’s dismay, to the White House. This is like that.  

          This is a minority movement significant enough to act as spoilers for GOP candidates, either by running third party choices who split conservative votes or by forcing the GOP to shrink even further and select candidates too extreme to win in competitive districts.  

          Agree that if Dems can get some positive movement on jobs, we’re going to see a swing back our way, but certainly not among those who are buying the Tea Party message.  That’s a GOP problem and a plus, not a minus, for Dems.  

    1. with handouts, new taxes, ARRA, revived taxes, subsidy programs, TARP, big government, Card check-forced arbitration, CFPA, Speaker Pelosicare, Cap’n Tax, less school choice, less religious freedom, gun control, climate destroying regulations…….  

  2. These are not Republicans, they are idiots and the reason we lose the middle. Even the leftist Pols admit it. They are more interested in being pissed off than winning. Scott McInnis is less likely to raise your taxes than Bill Ritter. Same for Jane Norton versus Bennet or Romanoff.

    What is the fucking problem here?!!

      1. I still don’t understand why anyone would want a teabagger in their party anyway.  They’ll never be happy with anything, so fuck ’em.

        It’s like inviting the “Kerry stabbed the troops” guy into the fold.  Do you really want that ?

    1. …perhaps if you were to meet with this group of voters and express your dismay in a similar fashion, I’m sure they’d immediately drop their complaints!

    2. Norton was on board Ref C with Gov Norton.  When did Riter ever suggest anything like that.

      And SM was on Ways & Means for along time with R majorities – I don’t remember as especially noteworthy as a tax & spend cutting kind of guy. Lobbyist best friend is a bumper sticker I saw describing him.  

      But you keep believing whatever gets you through the night.

      The problem is that these candidates are dirtball lobbyists who wish they were career politicians.  And the Tea Party knows it.

    3.    Mr. Wadhams, apparently your base is dissatisfied with the crap you are serving up as your party’s ’10 ticket.

        Time to retool.  Is it too late for you to put Josh Penry back out onto the field?

        As for Jane Norton, her ties to RINO Bill Owens and Referendum C/D is not going over well.

    4. This isn’t about who will raise your taxes the least.  It is about who can best manage our state government and make it most effective during a time of great change.  Ritter has the courage to say screw you to the No Taxes crowd and work to preserve our schools and education opportunities in rural area with his property tax freeze.  He earned your hatred but did the right thing.  My wife works in the human services department in Gilpin County and they distributed a record number of food boxes in November.  Government hating uncompassionate conservatives such as yourself would let these people starve because you don’t believe in enlightened self-interest where helping your neighbor helps yourself.

      If the question is who is most capable of pursuing pragmatic solutions to intractable problems over ideological purity then Ritter has a clear advantage.

      1. I could have printed a recipe, which more mimics Libby’s random stream of consciousness, but I thought I’d deal with him directly.

        As far as Libby staying on topic, he’d have to care about the topic for that to happen.

          1. The European Union Emissions Trading Scheme Regulations, which were implemented in 2005, do something even the simpleton Repub can understand – they provide a marketplace for folks to make money.

            Scoff all you want at “European Socialism,” the countries of the EU are All About the Euros. And in that case, those Itty-Bitty Countries like the Netherlands are making serious Euros because that country saw the economic advantages of cutting carbon emissions AND supporting industries that support energy efficiency.

            So, their industries not only are more energy efficient (spending less on energy to make money) produce less carbon emissions (or next to none in some cases) then MAKE Euros by selling their excess credits to other EU companies.

            THAT provides an incentive for other companies to buckle down and emulate the Dutch. And, that’s a commodity that people trade in – about 60Billion Euro in 2007.

            Now, if you can log out of World of Warcraft long enough to think about that, can you now see how Barney The Banker (in this case,  Baart de Bankier) is cashing in on this.

            (BTW, if you’re not afraid that your computer will turn Socialist if you click on a European Link, go here: http://ec.europa.eu/environmen

            And here’s a safer Wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E…  

    1. Tobacco and fossil fuel industries used the same MOs for fighting the assignment of responsibility (i.e., both promoted false doubts as to the reliability of the science). Indeed, there are a number of lobbyists/PR people common to the tobacco industry and the fossil fuel industry.  

      1. The Earth is flat.

        The sun and planets revolve around the Earth.

        Humans are not related to apes.

        The Holocaust never happened.

        The Moon landing was staged.

        Tobacco doesn’t harm you.

        There is no global warming.

        Greenhouse gas emissions don’t contribute to global warming.

        The polar ice caps and mountain glaciers aren’t melting…despite the fact that they are very visibly melting!

        The challenges we face are difficult enough, without compounding them manifold with this carefully cultivated, militant, organized ignorance that persists in defiance of all reason and evidence. It borders on collective insanity, invigorated by the folly of refusing to acknowledge inconvenient problems on the horizon, much as European appeasers did in the 1930s, but on a much larger scale, and with far more tragic consequences.

  3. What gets me is that they claim that they’re mad at Scott McInnis for blowing them off and not talking to anyone in the grassroots (dodging candidate forums, etc.). Yet when Jane Norton’s people show up and reach out to them they tear her booth down.

  4. enough attention.  Like Palin, they are the media darlings of the moment and their every action is breathlessly reported as some monumental achievement of civil disobedience.  You contrast this with the total lack of coverage regarding the anti-war left and you can see what a charade the whole “mainstream media has a liberal bias” narrative really is.  It was propagated by calculating conservatives to feed the rage that is now spinning out of their control.  Expect more wall to wall coverage of this nihilistic movement in the days to come by our not really liberal biased mainstream media.  

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