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April 24, 2017 06:21 AM UTC

Monday Open Thread

  • by: Colorado Pols

“A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.”

–Franklin D. Roosevelt


30 thoughts on “Monday Open Thread

  1. What would Bernie Sanders do?

    Sanders reluctantly supports Jon Ossoff after questioning his progressive bona fides and endorses the anti-choice Heath Mello in the Omaha mayoral race because he is a populist.

    I have to wonder: if Bernie lived in France, would he be supporting the populist or the banker…..

    1. So, is it purity test or no purity test?  Personally, I wouldn't support Mello, but Tom Perez was OK with it (at least before NARAL ratcheted up the heat).  If the important thing is to elect Democrats, than that's the important thing.

      I have a floor for support, which includes upholding women's rights, but it also includes support for universal, affordable healthcare; a living wage; and real support for funding public education, including free public college (although I'd prefer an equivalent public service requirement along with it).  When I say I won't vote for someone who doesn't support those things, I'm part of the problem.  Why isn't that true for folks in Mello's case?

      1. You pose a good question.   Mayors have zero say on abortions but some clout on the other issues you list, so I'd go with Mello assuming his opponent is the usual barf bag of Carnholian crap.  For a seat in the legislature, u.s. senate or governor, where they do vote on or sign abortion laws, I would have to take a hard look at the alternatives.   

        1. Where Bernie erred big time last year was endorsing free college, but saying nothing, that I saw, about trade school. Or to put it a bit differently…… What's more important? More philosophy majors, or more surgical techs, computer techs, wind turbine mechanics, etc. In other words, why not also support trade school tuition? 

          1. Most community colleges offer excellent vocational programs, CHB, and were covered by Bernie's proposal.  The problem was he had no clear way to pay for them. 

            BTW, my son is a philosophy major, ph.d. from Boston College, so go fuck thyself.  He is now teaching at Trinity College.

            1. Good for your son. Most philosophy majors that I've encountered in recent years are driving cabs or flipping burgers. And save your rhetoric for your good buddies PP, Andrew, Moderatus. Myself, I could care less about your anatomically impossible epithets. 

            2. Come on "V", you know Banger is one of our "Betters". After all he is a conservative. Of course he knows the educational background of taxi drivers and burger flipppers.

              1. Once again, our good troll PP (Passionate Prune) weighs in with commentary that helps convince others that he is a walkin', talkin', butt nugget.

                1. At least I never heard Prune sing the praises of Ted Nugent, the vile Nazi who referred to our mixed race President as a "subhuman mongrel."  I think you may need to check with the NFL to see what the concussions produced by all that head banging can do to your brain.   Then switch to Beethoven.

                  1. "….sing the praises of Ted Nugent…… as usual now for you, V-ger, you take comments made by others, embellish them in your own particular style, and then try to blame the commenter for having said something that they never actually said.

                    (2nd reply) VG: like Trump’s ardent followers, you do seem to live in an alternative fact universe. Hope you have a good stay there as the real word passes you by.


                    1. All that headbanging has indeed led to memory loss.  You were falling all over yourself to fling praise on the aging Nazi and very angry with me for bringing up his nazi racial philosophy.

        2. When the pro-birth jihadists down at the local clinic start crossing the line from legal exercise of their first amendment rights into violent protest, who decides how much of a policing priority it is?

  2. Comey

    It seems we are now finding out why the FBI acted as they did last fall.

    The Times’ investigative report suggests that a U.S. intelligence agency managed to intercept some of what Russian hackers were stealing — and that one document, “described as both a memo and an email, was written by a Democratic operative who expressed confidence that Ms. Lynch would keep the Clinton investigation from going too far.”

    According to the Times, Comey feared that Lynch — who had insisted the Clinton probe be referred to as a “matter” and not as an “investigation,” and who suggested it the investigation was not criminal when, in fact, it was — would declare the case closed, and then Russian hackers would leak the document to undermine the FBI’s image of independence.

    It seems that the journalist who made a difference in the election was the local TV reporter who came upon Bill Clinton and AG Lynch as the airport.

        1. And Tucker Carlson,  O'Reilly 's replacement has his own history. He once referred to Sarah Palin by saying her polling number in MILFistan were cooking.

  3. It'll be interesting to see if this gets any traction.  Not sure I see a case there, but that's why I'm not in the business.

    Lawsuit against ‘Raise the Bar’ pits urban voters against rural

    The lawsuit, filed today in U.S. District Court, claims Amendment 71 violates both the First and Fourteenth Amendments of the Colorado Constitution. The First Amendment guarantees freedom of speech; the 14th a\Amendment says that “no state shall … deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.”

    1. I read this in the Hot Sheet this morning, Pseudo. I'm not sure I see a case here, either. It seems like it's basis is,"there are more city folks than rural folks and that's not fair". Anyone have a different take on it?


    we use a similar standard to petition for statewide races for gov. etc., cookie, though by Congressional district, not state senate.   As to varying voter numbers, the co thingnstitutional mandate is to represent people, not voters,   The Census counts everyone, even non-citizens, and that is the number the one-person one-vote rule applies to.   As always, it seems a safe bet that if Indepence Institute is for something, that thing is a bad thing.

  5. While I would call it Buffoon-Speak, perhaps it is something deeper?

    An intriguing lighthearted read:

    Your Grammar Would Be As Weird As Trump’s If You, Too, Saw the Future

    Eventually, but at a later date so we can get started early, Mexico will be paying, in some form, for the badly needed border wall.

    Marvelous! This means something. But what?

    Some say it means the White House must have screened Arrival this weekend. Now Trump is trying to think in four dimensions.

    I think that Trump is setting the table for his best excuse yet—a grammatical one. The problem is straightforward: English simply lacks a tense to describe the point in time at which Mexico will pay for the wall.

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