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April 06, 2017 06:23 AM UTC

Thursday Open Thread

  • by: Colorado Pols

“Some newspapers have a hands-off policy on favored politicians. But it’s generally very small newspapers or local TV stations.”

–Bob Woodward


23 thoughts on “Thursday Open Thread

  1. It's enough to make Mrs. Butterworth blush….

    It turns out our pious and virtuous vice president has had a John on his security detail.

    1. As much as I like heaping abuse on this administration, I don't see how that has anything to do with VP "Mother doesn't want me to dine with other women" Pence.

      1. No, it doesn't.  And frankly, I don't see what this agent does on his own time with a consenting adult to be the government's business.  The Curmy Voyageur alliance has spoken!

    1. I think that's a typo, 55-45 (McConnell switched to "No" to be able to ask for reconsideration). Four Dems– Manchin, Donnelly, Heitkamp, Bennett– voted to limit debate. (per @NPR)

  2. Right winger thinks Dem Russian fetish is laughable.
    Per Noam Chomsky:

    During a recent interview with Democracy Now, Noam Chomsky demonstrated what everyone with a clear head and capacity for critical thought should already know. Just because you have a strong dislike for Donald Trump, doesn’t mean you latch on like a lunatic to every nonsensical Russia conspiracy theory because you’re still crying about Hillary’s loss.

    As Noam Chomsky accurately states:

    JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Noam Chomsky, I’d like to ask you about something that’s been in the news a lot lately. Obviously, all the cable channels, that’s all they talk about these days, is the whole situation of Russia’s supposed intervention in American elections. For a country that’s intervened in so many governments and so many elections around the world, that’s kind of a strange topic. But I know you’ve referred to this as a joke. Could you give us your view on what’s happening and why there’s so much emphasis on this particular issue?


    NOAM CHOMSKY: It’s a pretty remarkable fact that—first of all, it is a joke. Half the world is cracking up in laughter. The United States doesn’t just interfere in elections. It overthrows governments it doesn’t like, institutes military dictatorships. Simply in the case of Russia alone—it’s the least of it—the U.S. government, under Clinton, intervened quite blatantly and openly, then tried to conceal it, to get their man Yeltsin in, in all sorts of ways. So, this, as I say, it’s considered—it’s turning the United States, again, into a laughingstock in the world.

    If Chomsky thinks you left wingers are deranged, you have lost it.

    1. St. Ronnie is doing a veritable tilt-a-whirl hearing all the Republican apologists for collusion with Ruskies to overthrow American democratically elected government. 

    2. "Deranged" and "lunatic" are your words. Chomsky is repeating Donald Trump's "Johnny does it too" argument, while defending Putin.  Chomsky's opinions on making nice with Russia are in the context of furthering peace and not ramping up tensions with a major nuclear power. Naturally, you left that context out.

      From CNN: Bill Reilly: Putin's a killer. Trump: Got a lot of killers, lot of killers. You think our country's so innocent?"

      I fail to see how this morally relativistic argument, by either Donald Trump or Norm Chomsky, excuses either Russian's many murders or those of the United States. 

      Pretty sure Norm Chomsky had more to say. Yup, he did:

      On Trump's first 100 days:

      [It's] a "train wreck." But it’s very consistent, very systematic. Anything that can be of assistance to ordinary people, working people, middle-class people, people on the street—any such program has to be decimated. Anything that adds to wealth and power or that increases the use of force, that we carry forward.

      And speaking of other countries mocking the US, Chomsky said that the privatized US health system is an "international scandal".

      Pretty sure Norm Chomsky would never in a century endorse any candidate or political principle that you would endorse. I'm not even sure that you're a fan of democracy. Perhaps you prefer dictatorships.

      Wonder why you so selectively quote Norm Chomsky? What's next, a seance with Saul Alinsky or Hannah Arendt, in which these leftist luminaries somehow parrot your talking points?

  3. That thought crossed my mind, too. What ever happened to all the red-baiting Republicans out there. I guess they'll have to stop accusing Dems of being communists now, right Moddy? AC? PP?

      1. Private property rights? Are you familiar with eminent domain? The Keystone Pipeline?  In my best KornJolio voice, "Pear, let me help you"

        Trump: Without eminent domain, Keystone pipeline 'wouldn't go 10 feet'

        Donald Trump offered a full-throated defense of eminent domain, the authority of the government to seize private property for public use, and said without that power, the government couldn't do many things conservatives support, including the Keystone Pipeline.


        Trump signs executive actions to advance Keystone, Dakota Access pipelines

        “There’s so many other things that come along with Keystone XL that Trump is going to have to deal with: that it’s foreign oil, that they’re using foreign steel and they’re using eminent domain to take land away from people who voted for him,” said Nebraska-based anti-Keystone activist Jane Kleeb. “I think Trump is not prepared for the amount of protests from Nebraska Republicans that are coming his way.”

        PS: That requirement for American steel so we can #MAGA?  It's no more applicable to Keystone than it is Trump's hotels.  Even Ivanaka is playing you like a fiddle. 


  4. Trump: O'Reilly 'a good person' who shouldn't have settled sexual harassment claims (says the man who just settled a fraud lawsuit for $25 million). 

    “I think he’s a person I know well — he is a good person,” Trump told The New York Times.

    “I think he shouldn’t have settled; personally I think he shouldn’t have settled,” the president continued. “Because you should have taken it all the way. I don’t think Bill did anything wrong.” 


    1. Perhaps Cheetolini forgot the part where Obama did go to Congress for authority…

      Obama Seeks Approval by Congress for Strike in Syria

      Although Congressional leaders hailed his decision to seek the permission of lawmakers who had been clamoring for a say, the turnabout leaves Mr. Obama at the political mercy of House Republicans, many of whom have opposed him at every turn and have already suggested that Syria’s civil war does not pose a threat to the United States.

    2. Trump bombed just one airfield and gave short warning that it was coming. Russians tried couple years ago; when they first got into Syria; sending cruise missiles at rebel-held positions from Russian vessels in the Caspian Sea. Half of them never arrived and couple landed without exploding in Iran. Hope the Russians liked the pinpoint accuracy of ours. Pentagon wastes a lot of money, but most systems we have do work well (F-35 fighter plane an exception).

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