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February 25, 2009 04:32 PM UTC

Wednesday Open Thread

  • 48 Comments
  • by: Colorado Pols

“It takes two to speak truth, one to speak and another to hear.”

–Henry David Thoreau

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48 thoughts on “Wednesday Open Thread

  1. This should get the debate going.  When are WE, the AMERICAN VOTER, going to apologize to our future generations for the mess we are leaving them?  We blame the politicians.  But we, the voter- both Democrat and Republican- have installed horrible elected officials for decades now.  We have been happy to have them pander to us, lie to us, steal from us.  We’ve been happy to have been pandered to, lied to and stolen from- and now WE act with surprise and outrage?  Pu-leez!  

    WE, the American people, need to tighten our belts, learn how to do without the big screen, the SUV and the too-large house.  WE need to learn how to spend and save smartly.  Then we need to teach our children the same.  Or are we just to fat, DUMB and happy?

    As an aside.  I would LOVE for one day Hannity and Olberman to interview EACH OTHER!  Let’s stop doing the whole MSNBC/ FOX preaching to the choir and start having honest, informed discussions between rabid liberals and conservatives!  All it would ultimately do is increase the vital center.  The VERY political location that will ultimately save our country!

    Finally, I propose a movement to draft every talking head on TV into Congress.  If Olberman, Hannity, Dobbs, Limbaugh, etc are so smart- let’s push THEIR local constituents to put them in Congress! Perhaps then, and ONLY then, will they see that standing on the sidelines is kitten play to actually making legislative sausage!

     

      1. Clinton didn’t have the brains or guts to control the derivatives which put us in this current mess(he admits this).  Clinton demonized the GOP over addressing the Medicare entitlement bomb that has been ticking for decades- but didn’t have the political courage to tackle it.  Hey, I’m a Dem too, but BOTH parties have served us very poorly for generations!  They wrote senate and house procedural rules that kept US out of the loop.  We turned our heads as they carved out safe districts that strangled competition, which has caused us real damage.  We’ve allowed them to keep real ideas from the market place, chased out the best and brightest because of toxic personal politics (looking at YOU Waddams, Welchert, etc.!).  

        Sorry, this is on all our heads!

        1. The public has long resisted voting for anyone who treats us like grown ups. We have too often preferred empty suits talking happy talk.  We have been electing those who think the public is as dumb as a post for decades, thereby proving them right.  

          The election of Obama is a step in the right direction.  It’s up to us, the voters, to continue to convince pols we CAN handle the  truth and we WILL vote for those who tell it and base policy on it.  

    1. Almost all Congress’ and presidents leave debt for the future to handle.  The question is how much, and why?  Consumer spending is not a problem, as Japan has learned the hard way. (No one is spending money, the domestic economy is sucking big.)

      As another gross over simplification (mine, this time,) the Republicans, starting with Reagan, have destroyed the sense of “the commons”, that we are all in this together.  So Americans refuse to tax themselves (“Hey! It’s MY money!” and we go deeper into national debt.  The plutocrats, i.e., Republicans have ordinary Joe Sixpack Americans believing that taxing those who have most benefited living in America is “class warfare.” When FDR practiced “class warfare” and Clinton did a little snip of it, America prospered.  

  2. Funny take on Piyush Jindal’s speech:

    http://www.macondaily.com/news

    Excerpt:

    Jindal himself is a product of a more advanced culture: His parents are Democrats. The Jindals are Hindus who come from the Punjab in India, a state known for its welfare safety net. Jindal, turning away from the successful example of his parents’ politics and culture, has gone native, becoming a born-again Christian Republican who doesn’t accept Darwinian evolution nor Keynesian economics. (I hear he may complete his redneck makeover next week by marrying his cousin at a tractor pull.)

    1. Last month you floated a rumor that Ritter was off to the Vactican.

      I don’t think he has the nuts to challenge Bennet. Although the inside Denver business crowd has repeatedly stood behind the former Speaker.

      If Romo can win the primary where the business cash-effect is zero, the assumption would be they (business) will follow Romo into the General … and with all of the inside Denver business crowd conflicted from political giving due to Amendment 54 they might just be a non factor going forward anyway.

      If labor can commit to $2-4 million to Romanoff, then I have to hand it to him. Even the effects of R-Rod with Senator Bennet will be muted under that scenario.

      On other fronts, going up against Bernie gets no one anything more then they have today. I see no logic in that type of move; he’d be better off to primary the Governor.

        1. hmmmmmmmmm….sounds awfully wishful.  I think he would have a better chance against Bennet.

          Either way, he probably would have few endorsements and many problems raising money.

          And, no, Wade “you are either with me or against Andrew” Norris, that doesn’t mean I HATE Andrew.  Gawd.

          1. Ritter has been a disappointment.  Fortunately, he has other good qualities, but his lack of real leadership after the inaugural dust settled, and the Bennett thing, makes him vulnerable.

            Maybe this is an outcome of Ritter not having legislative experience, I dunno.

            If I were a CO voter in 2010 and it was a choice between the two in a primary, I would definitely vote for Romo. Legislative experience by the pickup load.

              1. I would say more likely not unhappy.  There’s a huge difference.  If the electorate is happy, it would be hard for Romo or anyone else to make headway.  But if Romo, or ???, were to effectively remind the voters that Ritter has failed on many tacks, and then the weird Bennett thing, he might make headway.

                In a general, not the primary, I could see Romo getting more Indy and soft Republican votes than Ritter.  He’s well liked on both sides of the aisle.  

            1. though some of his political decisions are a bit mysterious, the Bennett appointment among them; it wasn’t necessary to avoid putting Democratic congressional seats in danger in 2010, and just doesn’t seem to make a ton of sense. Don’t get me wrong: I like Bennett, and I think he might do a good job. But….

              Having said that, I like Ritter’s no-nonsense way of talking to his own supporters, when no one else is around to hear and no journalists are there to report it. He doesn’t pander to them, and I really respect that. In fact, it’s one of the qualities I value most. I’m in no hurry to see him go.

      1. He’s a Hindi from the Punjab state, by descent from his parents.  He is American born and converted from Hinduism to Catholicism.

        No where near Arab.  

  3. Randi Rhodes’ has been off the air for a couple of weeks. The only information on her website is this, regarding a contract violation:

    TO ALL:

    NOVA M RADIO HAS NOT YET CORRECTED THE PROBLEM THAT HAS KEPT ME OFF THE AIR DESPITE MY STRONG DESIRE AND READINESS TO BROADCAST MY SHOW. RESPECTING THE EMPLOYER-EMPLOYEE RELATIONSHIP THAT HAS EXISTED BETWEEN NOVA M AND ME, AND EXPECTING THE SOLUTION TO BE QUICKLY ACHIEVED, DETAILS OF THE TRIGGERING

    EVENT WERE WITHHELD IN GOOD FAITH. BUT I CAN TELL YOU THIS MUCH: ANY STATEMENT IMPLICATING ME AS BEING IN ANY WAY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DISRUPTION IN THE RANDI RHODES SHOW IS PATENTLY FALSE. THIS ENTIRE SITUATION IS SOLELY WITHIN THE CONTROL OF NOVA M.

    IN LIGHT OF MOST RECENT DEVELOPMENTS, MY SHOW WILL BE SEEKING A NEW HOME. I WOULD ASK FOR YOUR CONTINUED PATIENCE AND INDULGENCE IN RESPECTING MY RIGHTS DURING THIS TIME. YOUR UNWAVERING SUPPORT IS CHERISHED. THANK YOU.

    RANDI RHODES

    1. Not the brightest bulb in the drawer, somewhat abrasive personality.

      The history of the original Air America and now the descendent Nova M is fraught with intrigue, back stabbing, and general mayhem. I’m not surprised.  Just typical liberal circular firing squad stuff.  

  4. “Hot on the heels of the banking crisis, the employment crisis, and the mortgage/foreclosure crisis, the country is on the verge of experiencing a credit card crisis. According to the Federal Reserve, the total outstanding credit card debt carried by Americans reached a record $951 billion in 2008 — a number that will only climb higher as more people reach for the plastic to make ends meet. Yet the same banks that have been bailed out with billions of taxpayer dollars, have been turning around and gouging their most vulnerable customers, ratcheting up interest rates to as much as 32 percent and charging an ever-widening array of late fees, cash-advance fees, and over-the-limit fees. Priceless.”

    Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

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