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February 06, 2009 04:34 PM UTC

Open Line Friday!

  • by: Colorado Pols

“No wonder you guys lost.”

–Ann Coulter, to disabled Vietnam veteran


49 thoughts on “Open Line Friday!

  1. I’m especially appalled by our tough talking Congressmen (are you listening Lamborn?) who say we need to do “whatever it takes to fight the War on Terror”, but then turn around and say “please don’t send those bad people to Colorado, they might be dangerous”.

  2. Coulter’s an awful person, but I’ll bet there was more to the conversation than her just walking up to a random disabled Vietnam Vet and telling him that.  I think there’s an intentional lack of context, and it’s not like you need to misrepresent something Ms. Coulter said in order to make her look like an ass.  

    Here’s some good comedy for everyone.  The more things change, the more they stay the same, eh?

    1. That Bob Saget look-a-like was parroting Bill O’Reilly; ‘the more they stay the same’ indeed. If I was Gibbs I would ignore Tapper for BS like that.

      1. So because you don’t like the way he looks he’s not allowed to ask for documents related to appointees, in light of so many of them not feeling like it’s important to pay their taxes, etc?

      1. The fake Limbaugh quote last Friday and today’s out-of-context from Coulter.

        The way you’re going about posting inflammatory quotes from these people is unnecessary.

        1. And it’s actually one of the least offensive things she’s said.

          Calling John Edwards a faggot and insulting the 9/11 widows was worse IMO, and there’s no controversy about whether she said it.

          1. That’s my point.  Use one of her more idiotic, yet sourced quotes.  Plenty to choose from.

            The Limbaugh quote is a total fabrication, as far as I’ve been able to find.

        2. Regardless it’s a very telling thing to say.  

          The way this last administration treated its Vets and returning soldiers is shameful, disgusting, and ought to be criminal.

          Why aren’t the great defenders of GWOT standing up for them?  

          Coulter is despicable.  Please find the context LB that makes this quote so much better.  

        1. Coulter could say that Kurtz did not quote her exact words–though considering that she was the apparent source of his report, that would take some chutzpah. “People like you caused us to lose that war” is a fairly accurate paraphrase of “no wonder you guys lost,” so there’s no sense in which Kurtz’s article is an “absolute lie” that depicts her saying something “absolutely out of character for me.”

          We’ll happily change it.

            1. I can give you a source for the Oliver Cromwell quote, if you need one. He said it to two voluptuous wenches on the floor of Parliament, April 12, 1652. Context is important: it was right after Robocop had decimated the Irish, but before toxic sludge wiped out the Scots.

              (Funny thing: even though my quotes keep changing, they show up on Google if you search for them. Someday people will be using this as a source!)

                1. Though I think the historical record pretty clearly shows my quote is valid. Of course, the historical record part two might have been better if Frank Miller’s original script had been used.

              1. Is pretty universally accepted in non-partisan forums as having been his.

                I actually emailed a Franklin historian to ask him about t, and that’s why I’m not using it, even as pertinent and accurate as it is for this government at the moment.

                I’ll forward any response I get.

  3. Although this is of course wrong since everybody knows cutting taxes and wishing for economic growth is more effective than following established and historically proven methods for spurring economic growth.

    But still, worth looking at.

    1. The Republicans believe it’s time to play games while unemployment continues to grow.

      Recession-battered employers eliminated 598,000 jobs in January, the most since the end of 1974, and catapulted the unemployment rate to 7.6 percent. The grim figures were further proof that the nation’s job climate is deteriorating at an alarming clip with no end in sight.

      Limbaugh, Session and their Taliban-like Republican colleagues who want to see America fail seem to be getting what they want.

      1. really screwed the pooch American workers by overpaying failing banks nearly $80 billion?

        As the GOP tries to block the stimulus package over about 2% of the total…

        How about Sen. Vitter railing against money for preventing STDs–diaper Dan the prostitute man–taking to the floor over what tiny fraction of the bill?

        Seriously the GOP is a joke these days…

          1. taking up taxpayers’ time over about 2% of the stimulus package–that’s what they call ‘leadership’ and ‘oversight.’

            Personally, I think that there are some things in the bill that probably don’t belong–but that’s the reality at that great sausage factory we call Congress.  

            In this case it’s a small amount of the bill, and the GOP just averted their eyes when they were in charge–and $12 billion in shrink-wrapped bills on pallets went missing in Iraq, for instance, or Uncle Ted was funneling off millions to his home state, and getting a nice remodel in the process.

            What the GOP is doing is nothing more than politics–their agenda has nothing to do with fiscal responsibility and everything to do with making sure Obama fails (which I predict they will fail at): damn the consequences, damn America seems to be the GOP version of ‘collateral damage’ in their little game of brinkmanship.

            1. Stimulus is needed.  Don’t act like Democrats and put a bunch of stuff in the bill that you could easily pass in another bill.  Loading this thing up is not “change”.

              It’s like you’re choosing to be vulnerable.  I’m serious.  I’m making a stink because I want success – if I was a pure partisan I’d tell them to load it up more so we can have Congress back in two years at the expense of the economy.

              1. at least two Republicans will ‘defect’ from the defective GOP ‘leadership’ and pass the Senate version, probably next week, which will be around $800 billion.  

                If the economy improves in the next year, the GOP will look like obstructionist fools and become an ever-shrinking regional party; if the economy continues to tank–like I think most of the GOP ‘leadership’ hopes for, they might pick up some seats in 2010.

                Today’s GOP–throwing craps for their political future.

                1. Reagan didn’t sign his tax cuts until August of his first year.

                  If they can trim %150 billion of bullshit out of the “stimulus”, I’d say they were effective, not gamblers.

                  1. That’s not what they’re doing. They’re following the same failed policies which they instituted with Bush which led to this disaster.

                    Let’s see, Republican Senate Amendments to make the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Amerricans permanent? Check.

                    Underfund and try to destroy the social safety net at a time of great economic crisis? Check.

                    Impose a religious standard for receiving federal aid? Check.

                    Yeah, real effective. This recession proves that Bush and his failed policies where just fine and dandy for America; well that’s what the Republicans are telling Americans. The fundamentals of our economy are strong, right?  

          2. STD prevention for your average Joe doesn’t help anyone, but STD prevention for Louisiana Senators could be the thing that revitalizes Washington’s once-thriving prostitution industry.

  4. Because she went WAAAYYYY too far in insulting Sen. Max Cleland.

    The Quote:

    “If we’re going to start delving into exactly who did what back then, maybe Max Cleland should stop allowing Democrats to portray him as a war hero who lost his limbs taking enemy fire on the battlefields of Vietnam.

    “Cleland lost three limbs in an accident during a routine non-combat mission where he was about to drink beer with friends. He saw a grenade on the ground and picked it up. He could have done that at Fort Dix. … Luckily for Cleland’s political career and current pomposity about Bush, he happened to do it while in Vietnam. …

    “Cleland … didn’t ‘give his limbs for his country,’ or leave them ‘on the battlefield.’ There was no bravery involved in dropping a grenade on himself with no enemy troops in sight.”

    The Link was here:

    It has since been removed when she was revealed to be the slandering cunt she is. It’s an easy find using “the Google,” however.

    THE TRUTH: CPT Max Cleland won a Silver Star during Operations in Operation Pegasus, or the Battle Of Khe Sahn. Here’s the text of the citation:

    “Captain Cleland distinguished himself by exceptionally valorous action on 4 April 1968 … during an enemy attack near Khe Sanh.

    “When the battalion command post came under a heavy enemy rocket and mortar attack, Captain Cleland, disregarding his own safety, exposed himself to the rocket barrage as he left his covered position to administer first aid to his wounded comrades. He then assisted in moving the injured personnel to covered positions.

    “Continuing to expose himself, Captain Cleland organized his men into a work party to repair the battalion communications equipment, which had been damaged by enemy fire.

    “His gallant action is in keeping with the highest traditions of the military service, and reflects great credit upon himself, his unit and the United States Army.”

    This happened on 4 April 1968. After days of continuous combat operations, CPT Cleland volunteered for an additional air assault mission. When leaving the aircraft, someone dropped a frag grenade. CPT Cleland assumed it had fallen off his web gear, and when he reached to pick it up it went off. He lost three limbs in a LZ, not back at base “going to drink beer.”

    Vietnam vets of all political views hate this Chickenhawk Cunt with all of their being. Sen Cleland has done more for Vietnam and Disabled Vets in one month than the entire Conservative Media has done in 50 years.

      1. I don’t need to play AP Quote Trivial Pursuit – she’s demonstrated what a cunt she is when it comes to veterans – esp those who served in our other fucked-up war.

        1. I agree with your characterization of her Vietnam idiocy.

          There’s no reason for anyone, though, to misquote her, or anyone else.  It only weakens a good argument.

          1. The press quoted him as saying that “Israel should be wiped off the map.”

            The corrected quote was: “The Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem must [vanish from] the page of time.”

            What’s the friggin’ difference?

    1. .

      with no time in-country

      don’t like her all that much.

      But maybe you could clean up part of the personal attack, removing a term that disrespects all women.

      When you imply she is less deserving of respect because of her gender, it maligns all women.


      1. It is a vile term for a human being – and in this case, it fits.

        And in her case, I use the term “human being” loosely.

        Anyone who would marginalize the most horrific wounds you can get in combat deserves much harsher descriptive terms. I’m going with what I’ve heard Vietnam Vets use for her.

  5. I’m in withdrawal.

    At least Donna and Josh finally figured out how much they mean to each other, and another DemocratIC administration will keep America true.

  6. from the Denver Post

    DENVER-Members of the Colorado House are fed up with being addressed by just their first names or last names. From now on, it’s “Representative So-and-so” to you.

    Speaker Terrance Carroll, a Denver Democrat, issued a memo Friday demanding “all lobbyists, governor’s staff, executive staff, visitors, Capitol staff and press” show some respect by use representatives’ proper titles.

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