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January 29, 2009 06:59 PM UTC
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But it’s the individual contract (aside from teachers where the security is required by statute) that determines the level of job security.
So the police & fire can unionize and that does not mean grounds for firing will change. It’s up to both groups to hammer out a reasonable compromise.
I’m not familiar with state statutes on employment, but can you give a section of statutes or a title or something? I’m curious how the teachers contract works, by law.
thanks
CRS Title 22, Article 63. (Teachers, compensation)
http://www.michie.com/colorado…
Here’s an example of a probationary contract (first three years, IIRC).
http://www.bennett29j.k12.co.u…
I can’t get the probationary contract to load, but the state statutes state that a teacher can be fired as long as there is cause. Or, a teacher cannot be fired with no cause. I don’t understand how this works in practice as unreasonable and how it became impossible to fire a teacher.
The greater concern, hardly theoretical, but something that already exists under civil service rules anyway in most cases, is difficulty in disciplining and terminating bad cops.
This is a chronic problem in Denver, where police brutality is a never ending problem.
still seems like it was a good idea to many folks here in western Colorado. We are an enlightened people on the sunset slope.
…but I don’t think police and fire are working under the same conditions! And pay is generally good, better than what many people in the private sector get with similar education levels. Good job security if you don’t do something really stupid and great bennies.
What’s to fight for?
and that the Sheriff’s fear is that it COULD raise wages or COULD mean more benefits or COULD allow employees to negotiate for tenure…
As David notes, its a NEGOTIATION process (not a requirement that unions be formed). But for the entrenched establishment of Mesa County, that is fearful enough…the mere thought of unions.
That’s supposed to scare voters – the vast majority of whom also work for a living?
are already civil service system hires who can only be fired for cause, and are subject to merit based hiring and promotion (usually with a testing component of some kind).
The precise process by which cause is determined would differ a bit (probably favorably to the employee) under a union contract. But, a situation where you can be terminated only for cause is pretty much the definition of tenure, so they have that already (as do almost all rank and file government employees in all but the smallest governmental entities).
Indeed, the job security that public employees already have is one important reason that public sector unionization rates are soaring, while private sector unionization rates continue to fall to 1920s levels (pre-any federal union protection legislation).
What would happen if unions wanted to join the Grand Junction Chamber of Commerce or Club 20? Oh, the humanity!
like they did Western CO Congress–NO! Cannot have a dissenting voice!
Club 20 would probably just take their dues and ignore them.
Mesa County maintains it openmindedness. Hah!
For the second year in a row, union membership nationally has increased. This is a change from the last few years in which union membership was declining. It moved up this year by approx. 428K
Unions represent a little more than 12% of the workforce, now. A better number than it has been but still small compared to the heydey of unions (and the American Economy) the 50s.