Wednesday Open Thread

“Civilized society is perpetually menaced with disintegration through this primary hostility of men towards one another.”

–Sigmund Freud

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    • Conserv. Head Banger says:

      According to Yahoo News that I checked just now, 11 conservative senators and reps in Kansas lost their primary bids, including Senate Majority Leader Terry Bruce. Couple others were in races too close to call. All the losses seem related to the education funding issue. Didn't see anything about Huelskamp, but he had lost the support of the Kansas ag industry.

      Appears that voters there may finally be waking up. After all, Brownback got re-elected by a good margin.

    • MichaelBowman says:

      I can throw stones into his District from one of our wheat fields. Good riddance. Boehner's targeted 'Dirty Dozen' is now a Twinkie short of a full box. 

      • Diogenesdemar says:

        And waste good stones ???

        • MichaelBowman says:

          Did I say stones? I should have said I can step across the imaginary line that separates us and get stoned in his district! (not that I’d ever do anything like that).

          Take THAT you miserable Prohibitionist!!

          So glad the ag community took him down. There were several heavy hitters in KS who went to him with their support for The Industrial Hemp Farming Act and asked him to co-sponsor. Fell on deaf ears – he and Steve King are afflicted with the same disease.

          • Voyageur says:

            Disappointing but not surprising.  I support almost anything that gives the hard-working men and women in U.S. agriculture a fair return for their labor and often staggering capital investments.  If hemp was good enough for George Washington, it's good enough for me.

          • BlueCat says:

            A word about the "stoned' part. Once a friend swore she had found weed growing along a back road in Wisconsin and brought it back to us for our smoking pleasure. Free weed. Yay! Turns out it was hemp, probably gone wild from some old planting for rope. You really can't get stoned on that stuff. We tried. Guess I shouldn't say "can't" but if a bunch of bored teens in the late 60s couldn't keep up the effort long enough to cop a buzz, I don't know who could.

            • MichaelBowman says:

              Great story, BC! My standard line in a speech is that you could smoke a joint the size of a telephone pole and only end up with a headache and diarrhea 😳

              Yet, idiots like Congressman Cantaloupe King still can't wrap their heads around things we were taught in Botany 101. 


    • FrankUnderwood says:

      Wasn't Huelskamp one of the Wacko Birds made famous by John McCain?

      • BlueCat says:

        Mr. Marshall won with the support of business groups and the agriculture lobby, which had turned its back on Mr. Huelskamp after Speaker John A. Boehner had him removed from the Agriculture Committee in 2012, a crucial position for a legislator from a farm state. Mr. Huelskamp was a frequent critic of Mr. Boehner, who resigned last year amid strife with the Republican Party’s right wing.

        “Getting kicked off the Agriculture Committee is a crime that can’t be forgiven,” Brian Scheideman, a 52-year-old driver’s education instructor, said after voting for Mr. Marshall in Wamego, The Associated Press reported. “I don’t mind the independent voice, but you’ve got to figure out how to work with people.”

    • ohwilleke says:

      This is big news and unexpected (to me anyway).  Could be a bellwether.


  1. mamajama55 says:

    Even more good news from Wisconsin:

    Federal judge strikes down Wisconsin election laws passed by GOP, Walker

    U.S. District Judge James Peterson agreed with arguments that the laws were enacted to benefit Republicans and make it harder for Democratic supporters to vote, and ordered a range of changes.

    He ordered the state to quickly issue credentials valid for voting to anyone trying to obtain a free photo ID for voting. He struck down a restriction limiting municipalities to one location for in-person absentee voting, time limits on in-person absentee voting, an increase in residency requirements from 10 to 28 days, and a prohibition on using expired but otherwise qualifying student IDs to vote.


    • Duke Cox says:

      Hey, Republicans! There is no dishonor in being among the first rats to recognize the ship is sinking and get the fuck off the boat. It just proves you are a smart rat.

      Wanna save your party? Maybe you should try to….no, I'm kidding…YOU CAN'T!!!


  2. FrankUnderwood says:

    The GOP Held Hostage – Day Six (cue the music from Ted Koppel's Nightline)

    It was good news and bad news.

    The good news:  Trump received a Purple Heart yesterday from a veteran. His response:  he always wanted to get one but never expected to actually receive one.

    The bad news:  Meg Whitman, former advisor to John McCain, fundraiser for Mitt Romney and Chris Christie, and 2010 Republican gubernatorial candidate in CA, announced that she would not only vote for HRC, she was encouraging her Republican friends to do so and would make a mid-six figure donation to the Clinton super-PAC. She also reiterated her comments from last spring comparing Trump to Hitler and Mussolini.

    Who will be the next Republican to join Richard Hanna and Meg Whitman? Cory Gardner and Mike Coffman, opportunity knocks!

  3. itlduso says:

    Donald Trump is uniting America — against Donald Trump. This is In much the same way as Ted Cruz united the GOP — against Cruz. 

    Today there is more talk about how to replace Trump as the nominee.  Yesterday it appeared that if Trump left the race that Pence would automatically become the new nominee.  Today there is talk that if Trump left the race the RNC would pick his replacement.  Apparently the RNC rules state that the nominee can be replaced due to death, withdrawal by the nominee, or "for other reasons".  The stench of Trump will not rub off those who support him now; and that applies to both public and private individuals.  (I'm talking to you Paul Ryan and Mike Coffman, and oh yeah, members of my family and friends.)  You cannot stay silent any longer.

    I can't take my eyes off this train wreck!

  4. Canines says:

    Pelosi's people know Colorado Pols! How do I know? A leaked DNC email, that's how:

    House Republicans in Their Own Words To: Date: 2016-05-11 15:00 Subject: House Republicans in Their Own Words …

    Congressman Mike Coffman (R-CO): Minority language speakers should ‘Pull out a Dictionary’ To minority language speakers: “One thing they ought to do is pull out a dictionary when they are at home, because the ballots have been sent to them a long time in advance…sometimes you have to put a little more effort to assimilate into our culture.” [Colorado Pols, 4/14<>%5D


  5. itlduso says:

    Joe Scarborough today is trying a new meme:  Trump is actually a Dem and that Bill Clinton conspired with Trump to run as a Republican in order to destroy the GOP.  (Trump voted for Bill Clinton, voted against W Bush, donated to Hillary, and had a very long phone conversation with Bill Clinton.  Oh my!)

    Scarborough mentioned this several times today to be sure it was emphasized.  

    So, I guess the argument is that GOP voters are stupid enough to fall for this Trojan horse evil plot by Bill Clinton and Trump.  Well, they are the Stupid Party.

  6. Diogenesdemar says:

    How do you plan to celebrate Labor Day? . . .

    They were careless people, Tom and Daisy- they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made.

    . . . I know, let's all do the Job-Creators Charleston !

    • mamajama55 says:

      The Great Gatsby analogy works,,,if Trump is Tom ( violent, unfaithful, racist, possessive) and also Gatsby (rich, affiliated with casinos, obsessive), and Daisy (self-absorbed, feckless, hedonistic). I don't know where Pence  fits in…

      • Diogenesdemar says:

        . . . George Wilson, the poor stupid schlump gas station mechanic

        "so dumb he doesn't know he's alive"

        . . . whose wife is being regularly seeviced drumpfed by Tom Drumpf ???



        • BlueCat says:

          Good save.  

        • mamajama55 says:


          Spoiler alert: The George Wilson character ends up shooting Gatsby in the end, for Daisy’s carelessness in killing Tom’s wife, Myrtle. Wonder if the long-suffering Pence will snap spectacularly, too….This is the guy whose soundtrack for his VP entrance was, “You can’t always get what you want.”

          • Diogenesdemar says:

            But then, after further review, "so dumb he doesn't know he's alive" could very well also be Hair Magnificent . . . 

            . . . Pence is probably that blank, empty flyleaf at the very back of The Great Drumpfsby novel?

  7. Davie says:

    Interesting pre-mortem on the Trump campaign from Eli Stokols

    Trump tries to stop the bleeding

    The campaign is struggling to reverse its downward spiral as Republicans' frustration with their nominee nears a breaking point.


    08/03/16 02:08 PM EDT

    Updated 08/03/16 04:47 PM EDT

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