GOP Debate Promises Thursday Night Info-tainment



Fox News said Tuesday that Republican presidential candidates Donald Trump, Jeb Bush, Scott Walker, Mike Huckabee, Ben Carson, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, Chris Christie and John Kasich will all appear on the dais Thursday for the premiere event.

That leaves Perry and the six other major declared candidates — Rick Santorum, Bobby Jindal, Carly Fiorina, Lindsey Graham, George Pataki, and Jim Gilmore — to appear together during a debate earlier Thursday evening.

The debate in Cleveland marks the beginning of a new stage in the Republican nominating contest, where candidates will likely sharpen their first contrasts with one another and the field’s front-runner, Trump. The debates — which gave new life to presidential candidates like Newt Gingrich in 2012 — are now only open to the heavily splintered party’s favorites.

Oddly, we haven’t seen any advertisement of a Republican watch party for tomorrow night’s GOP presidential debate, and there’s nothing on the Colorado GOP’s calendar as of this writing. Democrats, on the other hand, have numerous debate watch parties on their calendar for tomorrow, with the Denver, Arapahoe, El Paso, and Jefferson County Democrats all holding debate-themed events for their members and the public.

Of course, given that the GOP presidential race as of today is a Donald Trump-dominated sideshow, maybe this all makes sense?

Either way, we’ll be tuned in tomorrow night for the bigger of the two debates (sorry, Rick Perry), and live-blogging in this space. What will happen in Cleveland? Will an also-ran bust out of the pack? Will any statesmen stand out from the jokers? Will Trump simply fire them all like an episode of The Apprentice?

We’ll all find out together, nation. Stay tuned.

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  1. JeffcoBlue says:

    Smart Republicans don't want any undecided Americans watching this train wreck.

  2. itlduso says:

    I hope they are asked, "Who believes in evolution"?

  3. MapMaker says:

    A better question would be, "Do you accept that evolution is the best explanation of how species change over time?"

    Others in that vein are: "Do you accept that the age of the earth is approximately 4.5 billion years?" "Do you accept that the age of our universe is approx. 13.8 billion years?"

    And the one that really tripped up Romney, "If the scientific evidence clearly contradicted your religious belief, which would you believe?" While I don't remember the exact wording of the question, his answer was that he'd believe his religion before the evidence. This answer on it's own ought to disqualify anyone who gives it. Well, maybe not Trump because he and god are one.

    Who is developing and asking these questions? I'm afraid that I can count the number of Republican debates I've watched on zero hands. Does some Fox lackey just lob intros to a particular candidate's talking points?

  4. GOP Debate Drinking Game

    * Take one drink every time someone mentions immigration
    * Take one drink every time someone mentions Hillary Clinton
    * Take one drink every time someone wants to use the military
    * Take one drink every time someone mentions Planned Parenthood or abortion

    If you're still sober after those four simple rules, you've the constitution of the gods…

    • Progressicat says:

      If you're still sober after those four simple rules, you've the constitution of the gods…

      I think you should drink every time you hear that too.

      • Or at least something with Constitution and God…

        • MapMaker says:

          How about this one (one that Ben Carson has already failed to answer correctly).

          "Does the bible have authority over the Constitution?

          • BlueCat says:

            On Fox? The questions will all be set ups for one great big rightie infomercial which is all the network is. On every major issue they all hold the same positions with the tiniest of differences so what's there to actually debate? 

            Who hates Obama more? Who hates ACA more? Who hates any banking regulations to protect middle class investors from Wall Street sharks more? Who hates the masses earning a living wage more? Who hates government assistance more even though workers making less than a living wage need it? Who loves bombing over diplomacy more? Who thinks African Americans should stop complaining about racism when everything the police do to them is just what they asked for more? Who believes in God more? Who doesn't believe in evolution more? Who doesn't believe in climate change as a real thing more? Who hates regulations that protect our food, air and water more? Who opposes moving toward a sustainable energy economy more? Who opposes all abortion, even in the case of rape and incest more? Who believes that poor women shouldn't have access to reliable birth control or abortion more?  Who opposes assisting the children born to poor women who opted not to have abortions more? Who claims voter fraud is a major threat that requires draconian solutions more? Who thinks all welfare recipients should have to pee in a cup more? Who can get more hysterical over immigration?

            Who can get more hysterical over the religious freedom to discriminate? Who can get more hysterical over the threat Iran poses to nuclear armed Israel if we go forward with the Iran deal?  Who hates HRC more? Who refuses to believe that Obama is a Christian more? Who refuses to admit he's actually a US born US citizen more?  Who wants even more breaks for the top .1% more?  Who wants to privatize everything, including education, building and maintaining infrastructure and prisons more? Who wants public education to be religious more? Who wants the states to take the people's federal land so they can sell it more?

            Sure should be a stimulating debate: Me too but more than you and I can do it better but don't expect me to have a plan to show you.

    • Well, there you have it: rational words to live by…

      Health officials warn that you could die playing GOP debate drinking games:

      “You simply can’t drink every time one of these guys says something silly,” said Surgeon General Vivek Murthy during a Wednesday morning press conference. “We’ve got three candidates who are prone to gaffes — Jeb Bush, John Kasich and Scott Walker — and then a half-dozen obscure goofballs vying with Donald Trump for a little media attention. It’s just a formula for disaster.”

  5. This infographic makes me think of Demolition Man's teleconference meeting scene.

    • ohwilleke says:

      It is very hard to see anyone below Huckabee winning in the end, and Huckabee is a 18-1 longshot.  Rule out Carson immediately – nobody makes it without being a VP, Cabinet officer, or holding statewide office in some state first.  Trump might have enough of a celebrity factor to overcome that historical rule, but Carson does not.

      There is no material respect pertinent to winning in which Marco Rubio is ever superior to Jeb Bush.  Jeb has more popular support, more support in Iowa, more support in NH, more support in SC, more money, more name recognition, a more impressive political record, better family connections, and better GOP elite support, and they appeal to very similar mixes of voters.  There is just no way that Rubio ever beats Bush in any scenario.

      It is down to Bush, Walker and Trump for primary season, roughly in that order.  Forget about all of the other candidates now, so you don't have to waste time forgetting them later.  The others are all irrelevant.


    • davebarnes says:

      OK, here is our marker. Pre-debate, latest poll results.

  6. BlueCat says:

    I'll just catch the more entertaining clips the next day. It won't be a real debate. It will just be everyone doing a campaign ad type presentation. Perfect for Trump. No time for details. He can just keep saying his usual stuff about getting Mexico to pay for a giant wall, bringing jobs back from China and Japan (?) and working his art of the deal thing to get us great treaties without having to give a single detail on how he plans to do any of it. If the others try to take him down by concentrating their fire on him, all he has to do is refuse to retaliate and keep spouting his crazy nonsense and his numbers will probably go up.

    Maybe he'll get more than 20 or 25% of Republicans in the next poll.  That still leaves most of the country thinking he's a loon so he'd be God's gift to Dems if he actually made it all the way through.  Much better than Jeb and a Dem campaign concentrating Udall laser like on the abortion/Planned Parenthood/he flip flops issues. Been there, done that. Sucked.


    • Conserv. Head Banger says:

      In the 6 PM time slot (Mountain time); 8 PM Eastern; WWE Smackdown on the Syfy Channel usually wipes out most of the competition, at least on the cable networks. Wonder how the debate will stack up in the ratings? 

      Seriously, for me as a Republican, John Kasich is probably the best of the 10. 

  7. Diogenesdemar says:

    Ummmm, . . . get a life, maybe instead?

  8. ohwilleke says:

    The GOP debate is awesome, it destroys the credibility of six campaigns by banishing them to the kid's table, is unlikely to help more than two or three campaigns, and damages the rest either from foot in mouth disease or ineffectual images resulting from not getting a word in edgewise in a fairly short ten way discussion.

    And, as long as Trump stays near the top of the list, there is room for his campaign to implode (or better still, hold onto the #1 spot while alienating the center and the left) sooner or later too.

  9. Here's something safer than a GOP Debate Drinking Game: GOP Debate Bingo

    The folks over at Daily Kos have put together 36 unique Debate Bingo cards to entertain you this evening and at future debates. The rules are somewhat variant from standard bingo, so be sure to read the article before playing.

  10. Voyageur says:

    Does anyone kn ow if the undercard — Carly florina and six guys in suits — will be on any  tv channel?   

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