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March 11, 2006 09:00 AM UTC

Weekend Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

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  1. Wow, you guys are amazing.  Impeach a president because you disagree with his policies?  Get real!  That is what elections are about.

    Take some advice from Dick Morris who has stated that the criminalization of politics will be the downfall of the democratic party.  On second thought, disregard that so that you will stay in the minority!

  2. Why don’t you print the list of the members demanding the impeachment of Bush, Sir Drunk?  It would be good to have a central file of all the psychopaths in Congress? 
    P.S. — we’re still waiting for you to carry out your threat to beat up servicemen and veterans.  That’s a great way to show your support for the troops, STalin Breath.

  3. 27 Congressman have joined the ranking Democrat, Conyers, and have signed articles of impeachment. It’s not about the dislike of George Bush, it’s about how he and his administration, including this Republican controlled House and Senate have done serious damage to our standing in the world, our economy, our military, our environment…..you get the idea. I’m not going to sit idly by and say nothing.

    Impeachment always requires the people behind it. For my part, I’m going to keep this idiot’s policies in front of every format I participate in until he’s removed from office….and Cheney too.

    Thanks for the advice though, Go Raiders. However, I must respectfully decline. This is my life, and its purpose is correctly motivated.

  4. Go Raider,

    I also received this letter. Here’s the info that was at the bottom of mine (I don’t think it’s included in the one reprinted above.)

    For verification purposes:

    Published on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 by Pierre Tristam’s Candide’s Notebooks

  5. Go Raider,

    I also received this letter. Here’s the info that was at the bottom of mine (I don’t think it’s included in the one reprinted above.)

    I have not personally hunted down the above publisher via Google but here it is if you would like to authenticate it’s authorship.

    For verification purposes: Published on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 by Pierre Tristam’s Candide’s Notebooks

  6. This from today’s Coloradoan regarding Welker’s email debacle:

    House Minority Leader Mike May, R-Parker, reminded legislators that the Republican Party was founded in freedom.

    “The images and ideals of my party are not about racism,” he said.

    Well said.

  7. OK Robin, we get the point… you do not like the President.  Enough already.

    On a further note, assuming this letter is true, how long will it be before this individual shows up running for office carrying his boards and wings and he tells the world that they ones sent to the president belonged to someone else ala John Kerry.

    Get a life.

  8. Peggy Lamm knew her polling numbers were junk.

    Despite claiming large leads amongst ‘likely primary voters’, coloradolib posted that she will not be participating in the caucus process.

    He spoke to Kathryn Poindexter, Lamm’s field director, and she confirmed that Lamm will be collecting petitions to get inserted onto the primary ballot.

    Apparently, Lamm does not really believe she has enough support to go the much simpler route of having her overwhelming ‘likely’ friends give her just 30% of the caucus vote.

    This is bad news for Peggy, as it means she is weaker than she was claiming; Great news for Herb Rubenstein, who now has a better chance of making the caucus threshold; And indifferent news for Ed Perlmutter, who was always going to win the caucus, primary, and general elections anyhow.

  9. I agree with TakeBack. Peggy should have made a virtue out of petitioning in the first place instead of stringing people on that she might go the caucus route. Lots of Dems, including Feeley and Udall petitioned instead of doing the caucuses, but unlike these candidates, Peggy doesn’t have the advantage of living in the district. The cloud over her residency continues and it’s questionable whether she could even participate in her own caucus. This is good news for Perlmutter because he will be assured of top-line status on the ballot.

  10. The real question is whether Peggy Lamm will keep up her support of Republicans (Owens and Davidson) by endorsing Ken Chlouber in the Londstrom seat?

  11. What Joe did might be a little unethical but he is paying it back. What Hanna did was illegal. Personally Joe shouldn’t even have stepped down.

  12. Might be a little unethical?  At minimum, might be a LOT unethical; at maximum, he’s defrauding taxpayers  and the state by claiming money for work he didn’t do.  (Do you file for overtime for your vacations?  I wouldn’t.)  Hanna had to step down, and she did so sulkily, but now it’s Joe’s turn.  He’s shown he can’t be trusted, and that he puts his own interests over the state’s.

  13. If joe had come out and been truly apologetic instead of the “this wasnt wrong but i understand it may have APPEARED to look wrong so i’ll pay it back” he wouldve had retained a small amount of my respect. but he didnt. at the same time, maybe joe is the best his district has to offer!

  14. Hey Colorado Pols…
    When are you going to update the SOS race?
    Too busy tilting to the left are we?
    Had this been good news for the Dems, you would have had that update done the next day.

  15. This letter was delivered to the White House yesterday. Impeach this nut! 

      President George W. Bush
      The White House
      1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
      Washington, D.C. 20500

      Dear Mr. President:

      As a young man I was honored to serve our nation as a commissioned officer and helicopter pilot in the US Navy. Before me in WWII, my father defended the country spending two years in the Pacific aboard the USS Hornet (CV-14). We were patriots sworn “to protect and defend”. Today I conclude that you have dishonored our service and the Constitution and principles of our oath. My dad was buried with full military honors so I cannot act for him. But for myself, I return enclosed the symbols of my years of service: the shoulder boards of my rank and my Naval Aviator’s wings.

      Until your administration, I believed it was inconceivable that the United States would ever initiate an aggressive and preemptive war against a country that posed no threat to us. Until your administration, I thought it was impossible for our nation to take hundreds of persons into custody without provable charges of any kind, and to “disappear” them into holes like Gitmo, Abu Ghraib and Bagram. Until your administration, in my wildest legal fantasy I could not imagine a US Attorney General seeking to justify torture or a President first stating his intent to veto an anti-torture law, and then adding a “signing statement” that he intends to ignore such law as he sees fit. I do not want these things done in my name.

      As a citizen, a patriot, a parent and grandparent, a lawyer and law teacher I am left with such a feeling of loss and helplessness. I think of myself as a good American and I ask myself what can I do when I see the face of evil? Illegal and immoral war, torture and confinement for life without trial have never been part of our Constitutional tradition. But my vote has become meaningless because I live in a safe district drawn by your political party. My congressman is unresponsive to my concerns because his time is filled with lobbyists’ largess. Protests are limited to your “free speech zones”, out of sight of the parade. Even speaking openly is to risk being labeled un-American, pro-terrorist or anti-troops. And I am a disciplined pacifist, so any violent act is out of the question.

      Nevertheless, to remain silent is to let you think I approve or support your actions. I do not. So, I am saddened to give up my wings and bars. They were hard won and my parents and wife were as proud as I was when I earned them over forty years ago. But I hate the torture and death you have caused more than I value their symbolism. Giving them up makes me cry for my beloved country.

      Joseph W. DuRocher

  16. Until recently, Claude Allen was the Assistant to the President of the United States for Domestic Policy. Allen is, or was, one of the darlings of the religious right led by the likes of James Dobson and his Focus on the Family. Allen was a big abstinence only crusader and led several assaults on AIDS service organizations as well. This paragon of moral values was recruited by Karl Rove. A couple of days ago, Claude Allen was arrested in connection with a massive shoplifter and refund operation:

    [Link] Allen’s alleged scheme involving about $5,000 of stolen goods had first been detected at a Target department store in his home town of Gaithersburg, Md. on Jan. 2, where the store reported observing Allen placing merchandise in a shopping bag and than taking it to customer service with a receipt for a refund.
    Police say that Allen was given a citation that day but not arrested and that a subsequent investigation using store videotapes determined he had done this many times before – sometimes purchasing items, taking them outside and then returning with a receipt to receive a refund for a similar product taken off the shelf.

    Bush twice nominated this freaky-sounding creep to the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Va. Thank your lucky stars the Democrats filibustered Claude Allen. A filibuster which freepers and wingnut bloggers called “shameful” by the way. Good thing he was stopped, or this alleged moral cripple would now be involved in judging criminal cases. And Bush wants us to trust his judgment of character, eh? Duke “Sticky Fingers” Cunningham, Bob “never says” Ney, Jack Abramoff, Tom DeLay, oxycontin Rush, and assorted felons and crooks, etc, ad nauseum. And these guys were going to “restore honor to the White House.” Good grief!

  17. Actually, Sir Drunk, you weren’t speaking about systemic problems, your “The military men and women in uniform should be a little more grateful for living at the tit of us American taxpayers.”
    was a vicious personal attack on the men and women who defend this country, often at the risk of their lives.  I know you aren’t man enough to serve your country, but until you are man enough to apologize for defaming those who do, no one will take you seriously.

  18. I keep reading ABOUT Sandra Day O’Conner’s remarks about dictatorship, but I can’t find any report of her actual remarks.
    Sir Robin, where are they?

  19. Wow. I can’t wait until another news item is posted so we can move on from this conversation. No good can come from these personal attacks. To be clear, I’m talking about both sides…

    “Voyageur can continue his hate filled and ridiculous diatribes.”

    “I don’t expect [Sir Robin] to be man enough to serve your country.”

    Come on guys, lets keep this issue based.

    Aaron

  20. Actually, Sir Drunk, your argument is, and I quote: “The military men and women in uniform should be a little more grateful for living at the tit of us American taxpayers.”
    There is no way that you were attacking a “system” or any kind of sytemic problem.  You were venting your personal hatred of the men and women who, often at the sacrifice of their lives, depend America.
    I don’t expect you to be man enough to serve your country.  But until you’re at least man enough to apologize for defaming those who do, nobody will take your filth and hate as anything but what it is.

  21. Actually, Sir Drunk, your argument is, and I quote: “The military men and women in uniform should be a little more grateful for living at the tit of us American taxpayers.”
    There is no way that you were attacking a “system” or any kind of sytemic problem.  You were venting your personal hatred of the men and women who, often at the sacrifice of their lives, depend America.
    I don’t expect you to be man enough to serve your country.  But until you’re at least man enough to apologize for defaming those who do, nobody will take your filth and hate as anything but what it is.
    Google that, Stalin Breath.

  22. My arguement over the coming months is that these dollars cause more problems than they prevent.

    Military Budgets of the top 19 countries:
    U.S.  $450 Billion
    China $65 billion 
    Russia $50 billion 
    France $46.5 billion 
    Japan $44.7 billion 
    Germany $38.8 billion 
    United Kingdom $31.7 billion 
    Korea, South $20.82 billion 
    Italy $20.2 billion 
    Saudi Arabia $18.3 billion 
    India $17.38 billion 
    Brazil $13.408 billion 
    Iran $9.7 billion 
    Australia $9.3 billion 
    Israel $8.97 billion 
    Spain $8.6 billion 
    Taiwan $8,041.2 million
    Turkey $8.1 billion 
    Canada $7,860.5 million 

    The top arms sellers in the world: (In constant 2004 Millions U.S. dollars)

    United States  out of $107,907 40%
    Russia  out of $41,765 16%
    France  out of $26,721 10%
    Germany  out of $18,384 7%
    United Kingdom  out of $12,991 5%
    China  out of $9,001 3%
    Italy  out of $4,862 2%
    Other European  out of $31,168 12%
    Others  out of $16,577 6%

    I’ll take an honest look at the rational behind this industry that anyone wants to put forward, which exceeds any other industry in the history of the world at this stage of history, and argue that it’s madness.

  23. Of course, they don’t bother you, Sir Drunk.  You hate America and I’m an American.  Why should you care what an American thinks?
    “There are plenty of peace loving civilians that will kick the ass of the great majority of the marines in this country….me being one of them.”
      Yes, you admit you were drunk when you made those threats.  But what did the Romans say: “In vino veritas.”
    You occasionally have claimed to “support the troops”  But when drunk, you admit you despise those who serve this country…something you have never done and never will do.
    “The military men and women in uniform should be a little more grateful for living at the tit of us American taxpayers.”
    At least you’re honest when you’re drunk.  The problem is that the honesty you portray is that you honestly hate America. 
    And you still haven’t been man enough to apologize for those insults, merely saying you “retract” them.  What’s the matter with saying you apologize?  Until you say it, I assume you stand by every hate-filled word.
    Have a lousy night, Stalin Breath.

  24. Move on- The fact that what I siad have had the effect on Voyageur that they did says more than I could or would want to try and explain. He protests too much! The military in general costs this country over $5000 a year per household. I don’t have to apologize for mentioning this bloated, misdirected, mis-managed, wasteful system. Indeed, I’ll pay more attention to it now that it annoys Voyageur. Soldiers do what they’re told. Our military is being directed by politicians who don’t know what they’re doing, or are simple pawns in a global corporate chase for resources. We’re too great a country to ever be defeated except from within, and that’s what is happening.

    Voyageur can continue his hate filled and ridiculaous diatribes. They don’t really bother me at all.

  25. In case  you missed Sir Drunk’s hate-filled diatribe Tuesday, here are the low-lights:
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    Your military rules and regulations don’t mean squat to civilians, and they don’t have to. There are plenty of peace loving civilians that will kick the ass of the great majority of the marines in this country….me being one of them. So take your miserable comments and shove them up your ass.

    Posted by: SirRobin at March 6, 2006 08:24 PM

    The military would do well to remember its mission and its place. They are there to serve, protect and defend. Remember that.

    The macho posturing from an ex-military man will always be challenged as wrongheaded and inappropriate. I’m tired of this country movement towards making everything military the absolute truth. Just because it gets almost $500 billion a year doesn’t place it beyond criticism.

    The “miserable lives” comment needs to be challenged…..and always will be challenged. The military men and women in uniform should be a little more grateful for living at the tit of us American taxpayers, not the other way around.

    Posted by: Sir Robin at March 6, 2006 08:48 PM

    He now says he “retracts” the threat to beat up soldiers, but still refuses to apologize for it.  And he apparently stands by the claim that our fighting men and women are “living at the tit of us American taxpayers.”

    These are the thoughts of Chairman Stalin.

  26. I am sincerely worried that if Peggy Lamm can’t figure out how to change her address how she plans to change Washington.  Washington can be a complicated place and I worry that if Peggy can?t figure out the simple task of changing her address that she might get a little lost in Washington.

    Peggy is also going around saying she got in this race to take on Both Way Bob which is so much BS it makes me want to barf.  If this is the case can we ask what opposition research she has shared with the Ritter campaign?  I bet the it is a giant zero because Peggy is full of it.

    Now Peggy is using her new apartment as her campaign office.  This is against campaign finance laws and just plain stupid.

    Peggy Lamm will be an unmitigated disaster if she wins the Democratic nomination.  If Dems are serious about grabbing this seat do not nominate Lamm.  Why not the best?

  27. I am sincerely worried that if Peggy Lamm can’t figure out how to change her address how she plans to change Washington.  Washington can be a complicated place and I worry that if Peggy can?t figure out the simple task of changing her address that she might get a little lost in Washington.

    Peggy is also going around saying she got in this race to take on Both Way Bob which is so much BS it makes me want to barf.  If this is the case can we ask what opposition research she has shared with the Ritter campaign?  I bet the it is a giant zero because Peggy is full of it.

    Now Peggy is using her new apartment as her campaign office.  This is against campaign finance laws and it just plain stupid.

    Peggy Lamm will be an unmitigated disaster if she wins the Democratic nomination.  If Dems are serious about grabbing this seat do not nominate Lamm.  Why not the best?

  28. anyone else hear the rumor that rich beeson is about to be served? something about coordinating the  efforts of beaureaz, trailhead, and state party?

  29. Well said, Take Back the House and Dan Willis.  Perlmutter is too good a man to be backstabbed by the guttersnipes who purport to support him.

  30. If it’s OK with you, George, I’ll pass on the booze.  Frankly, I don’t think that stuff does much good to those who use it and I don’t want to end up a pathetic old drunk like Surly Robin.
    But thanks for having served your country and I’ll cite you as a reason I think the ban on qualified gays and lesbians from serving openly in the military should be repealed by Congress. 
    I’m not a complete teetotaler, but I average about one alcoholic drink a month and that’s usually a George Killian’s Irish Red.  My wife is fond of Guinness stout but also in very moderate quantities.  Have a good day, you earned it.

  31. Voyageur,

      If I thought for a minute that the personal attacks were coming out of the Perlmutter campaign, I would be out helping Peggy Lamm get signatures.
      I have hung around the Perlmutter offices quite a bit now, and I never heard a thing about her personal life even once. They have issues with Peggy, but the couldn’t care less about anyone’s personal life.

      In fact, the only place I had ever heard stories about that part of her life was when I was doing google searches on her name and found old references here at Coloradopols. Whatever unwritten rule there might be here, this is the only place I have ever heard anyone try to push that sort of gossip over issues.

      Whoever ‘Lamm is an R’ is probably supports Ed, but I can tell you that Ed most certainly doesn’t support ‘Lamm is an R’ or anyone who tries to make people’s personal lives into an issue.
      There are plenty of ways to demonstrate her political preferences without having to stoop to ad hominem garbage.

  32. So, I was  correct in assuming you were drunk, Sir Drunk, when you made your threats to beat up servicemen.  Now, you “retract” the comments?
    I didn’t hear the word “apologize,” however, so I’ll keep the sobriquets “Sir Drunk” and “Stalin Breath” in circulation.
    Also, when you say, half-heartedly,  “I value the defenders ond protector’s of our freedoms” am I to assume you also retract the slur against them “sucking from the taxpayer’s tit.”
    I’m afraid the only “despicable” character on this board is you, Sir Drunk.  And until you issue a formal apology for your slurs, I’ll continue to treat you as the America-hating scumbag you are.  This may come as a shock to you, but the opinions of real Americans are protected by the First Amendment also.
      Have a crappy day, Sir Drunk.

  33. I find it quite ironic that Voyageur chooses to write about “the Colorado Pols rule against unsubstantiated personal attacks” then read his “viciously uncivil” against someone who presents opposing arguments or take positions against his do no wrong military.

    My earlier post that seems to have upset him so, came just prior to Sandra Day O’Connors comments regarding dictatorships; discussions regarding Musgrave using the military as background props in violation of military policies; not to mention the fact that for years both Bush and Cheney gave their speeches predominantly in front of military personnel. Poiliticans who do this are despicable, and to my way of thinking, present themselves like almost every dictatorship in history. Politicians who use the military to support their power, whether by force or by the force of symbol, are a danger.

    I’ll retract my comment about kicking the ass of some servicemen (truth be told, I was attempting to get under the skin of Iron Mike, Voyageur and Gecko…..and had a couple of glasses of wine that night….and certainly succeeded:-).

    I value the defenders ond protector’s of our freedoms. I’d never let them serve under this Commander-in-Chief! I’m a much better father than that!

    Perhaps my continuing and long held position against Bush/Cheney/Rumsfield etc., is growing old to some. They might wish that I just go away. I can’t do that. I’m very upset the direction this great country has been taken by the corporatacrocy. Our Republic is threatened from within. My voice is just one of many that will continue, without fear, to tell it like we see it.

    Thanks to ColoradoPols for graciously allowing myself anf others to have a forum for our opinions.

  34. Ah, Voyageur… Still viciously uncivil, I see.

    Just a thought: Maybe if you’d get out a bit (you seem to be tied to your keyboard, twenty-four hours a day). Go smell the refreshing chill of the morning; run a mile; watch the geese flap across the sky, as they honk their esoteric message to one another. Smell a rose. Have a shot of Maker’s Mark every once in a while.

    You seem to be bitter. Angry.

    To keep with the political theme of this site, let me just say that Dubya is an idiot and Welker is a REPUBLICAN!

    Finally, as a veteran–God Bless the Army for providing me with the opportunity to discover myself–I really don’t give a shit if–as you allege–some drunk is disturbed by the service I gave to my country. That’s their problem, not mine. And, certainly, I’m man enough to know only pussies beat up drunks.

  35. CD7 is the Dems race to loose this year. Voter registration is in their favor and their seems to be a building sense of back-lash against the GOP from al of the ethics issues plaguing the party from the Pres. on down.

    Having said that, so far the Dems are doing really good at loosing CD7. Between Lamm’s faux-pas (I think thats the plural spelling) concerning her voter registration and questionable poll numbers, the Perlmutter campaign slinging mud that they can’t seem to back up with facts, and Herb Who? being the sterotypical carpetbagger, I am really concerned that the Dems may self-destruct before the primary giving O’Donnell a real chance in Nov.

    I think CD7 needs to hear more “this is why you should vote for me” and less “this is what is wrong with my opponent”.

    Just my $.02.

  36. I believe the Perlmutter shills are violating the Colorado Pols rule against unsubstantiated personal attacks.  Of course, the smear is also making it more difficult for Perlmutter to unify the party against Rick O’Donnell.  Way to go, shills.  Apparently you are so bereft of substantive reasons to back Perlmutter — other than your shop-worn argument that he has more seat time in the district — that you’re resorting to gutter politics.

  37. Maybe Lamm and Chlouber will wear the matching cowboy shirts they used to wear together, when they were an item but both married to other people.  That way Lamm’s endorsement of Chlouber will provide a photo op and get more coverage.

    Expect photos of Lamm and Chlouber in those matching cowboy shirts to surface sometime before the primary.

    Rule one of politics:

    Don’t use the word reparations in writing.

    Rule two of politics:

    Don’t make high profile endorsements of members of the oppositie party and then expect members of your own party to support you in your own election.

    Rule three of politics:

    Don’t get photographed intentionally wearing a matching cowboy shirt with an elected official of the opposite party with whom you are having an extra-marital affair.

  38. I find it interesting ColoradoPols.com calls for civility but allows such vitriolic remarks here. Apparently, so long as you don’t take on Democrats, just Republicans, it’s acceptable.

    Prove me wrong.

  39. PRWire, a very reliable source of mainstream and sometimes alternative news is reporting that adult starlet Mary Carey is scheduled to attend the United to Victory dinner with President George W. Bush in Washington D.C on March 15th – 16th.

    Carey, who was also a Republican candidate for governor of California, is going to Washington at the invitation of the National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC).  She will meet and interact with key Congressional leaders and Administration officials to discuss advancing powerful pro-business, pro-family agendas and meeting positive legislative goals.

    She will join Karl Rove, senior advisor to the President, for lunch on Wednesday the 15th, and President Bush for dinner on Thursday the 16th.

    Now wait a minute.

    Mary Carey star of ?R? rated ?Sapphire Girls? (2003): whose production company Mary Carey Productions in 2004 produced the X rated ?Run Mary Run? in which she played the lead role. ?Run? described by leading movie database web site Internet Movie Data Base (IMDB.com) as ?Hardcore Sex? is going to meet the President of the United States, George W. Bush?

    And she?s going to be talking ?pro-family? items with Karl Rove, the same Karl Rove who Senator Hillary Clinton complained was ?obsessing? about her and who allegedly had a role in leaking CIA spy information?

    Wait, it gets worse.

    On returning to Washington, Ms. Carey said, ?I’m really excited to be going back to Washington D.C. to see the president again. Everyone thinks that politicians are stuffy, but we all had a great time last year.?

    “I’m always excited to learn more about what’s going on in our nation’s capital, since most people in the porn industry think an Iraqi pullout is a form of safe sex,” Carey quipped.

    “Since I’m seriously considering running for governor of California again, I’m going to need a lot of support from Republican lawmakers nationwide – however I can get it.”

    Carey made national headlines in June of 2005, when she attended a similar dinner with President George W. Bush, also at the invitation of the National Republican Congressional Committee.

    Ms. Carey, added, Wait till they see that I have lost 20 pounds since the last time they saw me. Watch out Mr. President!”

  40. Gee Dwyer, I didn’t know Frist and DeLay had been shooting and killing Judges in the greater Chicagoland area. You’re so brave for bringing this to light. Why you should just go and kick their asses dude. Show them who’s boss.

  41. In the unlikely event that you ever READ the constitution, Dwyer, I suggest you start with the First Amendment.  You’ll find nothing in it that says the people cannot criticize an imperial judiciary or even the sainted Russ Feingold, who we now know to be Sir Robin.

  42. Pager, thanks for the link: rawstory.com.  Sandra Day O’Conner spoke at Georgetown University and expressed concern  about the threats to an independent judiciary caused by actions of  Bill Frisk and Tom DeLay, among others, attacking so-called “activitist” judges.  She cited the assassinations of two judges, one in Chicago (and his family) and one in Atlanta (and other court personnel) as examples.  What a brave lady!!
    Without an independent judiciary, the United States becomes a dictatorship. Hip Hip Horray for Sandra Day O’Conner!  And the same, now, for Russ Feingold.

    It is, finally, the Constitution, Stupid

  43. I want to be clear that I am paraphasing O’Conner’s remarks and she did not blame Frisk and DeLay for the assassinations in Chicago and Atlanta.  I have not been able to read her speech, just the reporting of it and commentary.

    The issue is protecting the independence of the judiciary which she saw as being under attack from various sources.  DeLay and Frisk were talking about retaliating against judges for opinions that they  did not like, specifically in the Shavio case.  It was not the exercise of First Amendment rights, it was the threat which was of concern. Her speech should be published so that we can accurately comment on it.  It was perhaps the most significant speech of a retired Supreme Court Justice in my lifetime.

    I am sick of Iron Mike and Voyageur’s childish agressiveness. The phrase “It’s the Constitution, Stupid,” is a paraphrase of the campaign slogan of the first Clinton effort, so don’t take it personally, you guys.  Stop trivalizing my constitution and for gods sakes, don’t call me Dude.  That is SOOOOO 80’s.

  44. Now, Iron Mike, don’t hurt Dwyer’s feelings.  He’s sick and tired of us doing that.  We must respect his feelings because they aren’t based in fact, law, research or logic, but they’re , like, you know, FEELINGS, dude!
    And I am stunned, just stunned, to learn that Bill Clinton had the slogan “it’s the economy, stupid.”  Gosh, I never would have known that, if hadn’t been for Dwyer’s post.  OK, it had been reported thousands of times, but, apparently, Dwyer thinks he is the only one who grokked on it.  Ooops, went and used another word he won’t grasp, I just can’t get the hang of this sensitivity thing.  Hint, Dwyer, look up Robert A. Heinlein’s Stranger in a Strange Land.  And while you’re at it, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
    It’s a lot better than the Autobiography of Michael Moore, Dude.  Sorry if something even dumber than Dude has replaced Dude, Dude, but I just don’t keep up with nonce words.

  45. Wow, cool Dwyer.

    So you’re actually commenting about something that you don’t have first hand knowledge about… You “read about in a book”… Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! Wow, what an “insider” you are!

    I know where you are coming from though… I’m thinking about writing a book about the perils of climbing Mt. Everest… Not because I have been there, but because I read a couple books about it and wow, it just seems so cool. I wonder if it gets hot at the summit? I bet if I write that it does, that will make it a fact. (This is the logic you like to use right Dwyer? Please correct me if I’m wrong.)

  46. I want to read the speech.  I can’ just find it anywhere.  These are sites where the commentary is and from which I drew my thoughts: rawstory.com; peacecorpsonline.com.  They also reference the Guardian and the Chicago Daily Law Bulletin; which I have not been able to access.

    The speech was given by Sandra Day O’Conner at Georgetown University on Thursday, March 9, 2006.  If anyone knows where the text is posted, please let me know.

  47. “I want to be clear that I am paraphrasing O’Conner’s remarks and she did not blame Frisk and DeLay for the assassinations in Chicago and Atlanta. I have not been able to read her speech, just the reporting of it and commentary.”

    Oh thank goodness! So she didn’t actually say that Frisk and DeLay were living out that skit from SNL and going around capping judges. Or do you even know that? After all you say above that you didn’t even read the speech… You just kinda heard about it? Maybe you read about it in Newsweek? Or did your mom’s aunts, daughter’s cousin, twice removed by marriage hear about it while having a beer in a DC pub?

    So in other words Dwyer, your little post about judges getting killed having a tie to the GOP leadership is really just an example of an intellectual sneeze: something came into your head, you expelled it, not you’re apologizing because you realize how stupid it made you look… I understand dude. But when it comes to making stuff up can we just stick issues like sex, fishing and identity?

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