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March 06, 2013 06:26 AM UTC

Wednesday Open Thread

  • by: Colorado Pols

"Patriot: the person who can holler the loudest without knowing what he is hollering about."

–Mark Twain


16 thoughts on “Wednesday Open Thread

  1. Mark Twain  Quotes:

    Christian governments are as frank today, as open and above-board, in discussing projects for raiding each other's clothes-lines as ever they were before the Golden Rule came smiling into this inhospitable world and couldn't get a night's lodging anywhere.

    That's the difference between governments and individuals. Governments don't care, individuals do.

    The mania for giving the Government power to meddle with the private affairs of cities or citizens is likely to cause endless trouble, through the rivaly of schools and creeds that are anxious to obtain official recognition, and there is great danger that our people will lose our independence of thought and action which is the cause of much of our greatness, and sink into the helplessness of the Frenchman or German who expects his government to feed him when hungry, clothe him when naked, to prescribe when his child may be born and when he may die, and, in fine, to regulate every act of humanity from the cradle to the tomb, including the manner in which he may seek future admission to paradise.

    There is a phrase which has grown so common in the world's mouth that it has come to seem to have sense and meaning–the sense and meaning implied when it is used: that is the phrase which refers to this or that or the other nation as possibly being "capable of self-government;" and the implied sense of it is, that there has been a nation somewhere, some time or other, which wasn't capable of it – wasn't as able to govern itself as some self-appointed specailists were or would be to govern it. The master minds of all nations, in all ages, have sprung, in affluent multitude, from the mass of the nation, and from the mass of the nation only–not from its privileged classes; and so, no matter what the nation's intellectual grade was, whether high or low, the bulk of its ability was in the long ranks of its nameless and its poor, and so it never saw the day that it had not the material in abuncance whereby to govern itself. Which is to assert an always self-proven fact: that even the best governed and most free and most enlightened monarchy is still behind the best condition attainable by its people; and that the same is true of kindred governments of lower grades all the way down to the lowest.

    Just sayin…


    1. You must be referring to the State of Mississippi's decision as a legislature to close the last remaining Abortion provider in the state.

      Yes, the hearing will be in April, a last appeal of the state's arbitrary rules in which an abortion doctor must have "admitting" priveledges and credentials in a local hospital in order to be legally capable of providing womens' health care at his own facility.

      Of course, the "local hospitals" simply refuse to grant those "priveledges" to the Doctor.

      Kangaroo Court, redleg american south style

      Yes, the people of Mississippi want the availability for women to access health care, but the "guvbmint" knows better.

      That is what you're referring to, isn't it, nock?

      Where's that retraction of the threats you made against government employees and other citizens, you coward? You're a regular nugent, ain't ya?

      Did ya dodge the draft, too?

  2. Rand Paul's filibuster of Brennan:


    I have to agree with Rand Paul on this one. John Brennan is a tool of the MIC and not an honorable man, imho. He passsed bad intelligence to GW Bush in 2003 and supports Drone warfare. I don't.

    1. I have great respect for you Robin, I greatly enjoy reading you, and agree with you 95% of the time.

      This one I'm at disagreement with you on, but please hear me out.

      When Seal Team compromised Al Qaeda at Abbottobad, killed Bin Laden, a treasure trove of intell was seized. We've been killing terrorists by the handfulls since. When drones do it, we don't risk United States Military personnel. That's a good thing.

      Paul's deal is different. He's accusing by question, saying in effect, we're killing American citizens by drone in the United States at worst, that the Administration's at least keeping drone strikes on Americans here as an option at best.

      He's just doing a dance. That's not even dignified to accuse this Administration of that. Cheney? yeah, and that's why we can't ever allow it. But we're not, and that's that.

      It's been too long since I read you. I'm prepared for my shellacking as I type.

      1. No shellacking from this end, my friend.

        Simply put, I don't like technology advancing into warfare when governments can control the technology. When I look up into the sky, I just want to see blue sky, clouds and sun….or stars. I don't want drones in my sky's, and I don't wish it on anyone else.

        I'd rather these issues be played out with a sense of fair play. Sure, the "other side" may not play fair, but that's irrelevant given our superior numbers.

        Scale back war, and the instruments of war.


        Sir Robin


      2. I agree. Rand Paul is one of the most cynical politicians I've ever encountered. He managed to get the AG to admit that there is some kind of extraordinary scenario in which a drone strike can be called upon US citizens on US soil, and he's run with it with the likely purpose of fueling the fires of paranoia with his base. Now he's grandstanding.

        Rand Paul cares about the rights of US citizens like a shark cares about a seal's right to life. I'll believe that I'm wrong about this when he sponsors legislation that really does something about the drones, or the legal authority of the president to use them. But big displays are cheap and easy.

  3. Rocco, I’l be back, but first in honor of Alvin Lee, my youth, and Ralphie….not necessarily in that honor…here’s Ten Years After doing “I’d Love to Change the World”. So many of the lyrics still ring true today.

    1. No kidding!

      Wow, right in my wheel house. Thanks, Robin, and RIP Alvin.

      It's funny how music is such a great memory jogger. When I was at the Amphibious Base NAB Coronado, a lot of the songs from Undead  were playing AM radio San Diego. I still remember how fast that base guy was, how good Ten Years After really was.. What great music!

      What was he, about 66 or 67?

      As far as "I'd Love to Change The World", as I remember, there was a 3.2 Bar on about 17th and Franklin, and in the early 70's we'd go in after work for some pops. It played on the juke box. I really liked the song and I played it all the time. If I remember right, a buck got you 4 songs. Before Creedance went into litigation, they were on it, with stuff like "Lodi".

      Robin, you made my day. Obviously not referring to Alvin's passing, but with "I'd Love To Change the World"

      Peace, brotha!

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