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November 30, 2023 04:21 PM UTC

GOP Chair Predicts Civil War if Trump Is Forced Off Ballot or If Election 'Fraud' Continues

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  • by: Jason Salzman

(Promoted by Colorado Pols)

The chair of the Colorado Republican Party says he doesn’t want civil war, but he’s sees one in America’s future under two scenarios: one, if courts remove Trump’s name from the ballot or, two, if “they’re successfully able to keep engaging” in blatant election fraud (even though Williams or other Republicans have yet to produce evidence for such “blatant fraud”).

“If they’re able to successfully remove Donald Trump from the ballot, for example, or they’re successfully able to keep engaging in some of the blatant election fraud type behavior that they’ve done, then pretty soon you’re not going to be able to resolve your differences through the ballot box,” said Williams on the right-wing Liberty Roundtable podcast Wednesday [here at 29 minutes]. “It will be done, you know, in a civil war, and we don’t want that. No one wants a civil war.”

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Williams did not immediately respond to these questions left on his voicemail: Do you have evidence to back up your prediction that a civil war will occur under the circumstances you outline, even if you don’t want one yourself?

Do you know people who are preparing to wage civil war? Will you join the war, even if you don’t want it? If you’re unwilling to resolve differences “through the ballot box” because of “blatant election fraud” that has no basis in reality and therefore cannot be corrected, then is a civil war inevitable?

Williams, a former state lawmaker from Colorado Springs, is a steadfast election denier. He even blames Republican losses in Colorado last year on Democrats “taking advantage” of illegal voting.

Williams went on to tell radio host Bob Bushman, who also said he was concerned about civil war, that “good, honest people don’t want civil war” and “most of us are capable of figuring out ways to avoid those things.”

“But there’s only so much you can do. If those who are in power keep undermining free and fair elections or keep doing things to steal the wealth for the haves, from the have-nots, then, yeah, we’re going to be in a pickle. It’s going to be in a lot of trouble,” said Williams on the podcast. “I think the analogy I can give you is that of what happened right before the Civil War and in 1860’s. Right before beforehand. I think you’re seeing a lot of similar angst and upheaval around the country. And, you know, the solution is quite simple. Just return to what the Constitution says and allow the people to decide. You do that then we’ll have peace and prosperity.”

Other prominent Colorado Republicans cite violent revolt as a possibility for fellow conservatives if their baseless claims of election fraud aren’t accepted as true.

During last year’s Republican primary in Colorado, U.S. Senate candidate Ron Hanks (R-Cañon City) refused to denounce violence as a last resort if election conspiracists like him didn’t get their way.

Hanks had the following discussion on the topic with the Colorado Times Recorder’s Sean Price:

CTR: “If all your work with election fraud fails, would you condemn a violent response?”

RH: “Well we’re working to make things happen. In fact, there already have been revelations of election fraud, proof of election fraud. So I think your premise is highly flawed at this point.”

CTR: “Would you come out right now and say that there should be no violence in response to any election fraud concerns?”

RH: “Who am I saying this to? What are you even proposing? Who am I supposed to project this to?”

CTR: “Just to anyone who might want to do something violent when they believe there’s been election fraud.”

RH: “No I think my statements stand as they are. My statements are carefully crafted and stated and I stand by every one of them. I’m not really interested in taking your statement and making it my statement.”

CTR: “What do you mean by that?”

RH: “What do you mean ‘what do I mean?’ You just asked me if I would stand up and say no to violence.”

CTR: “And you’re not interested in doing that?”

RH: “My statements come from me. That statement came from you. So I’m not interested in your words. I’m interested in my words.”

Last year, failed southern Colorado GOP legislative candidate, Shelli Shaw, also connected the prospect of civil war to her strong belief that the 2020 presidential election was undermined by fraud.

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11 thoughts on “GOP Chair Predicts Civil War if Trump Is Forced Off Ballot or If Election ‘Fraud’ Continues

  1. And the GOP is edging us ever closer to a dictatorship, led by a mentally unstable, corrupt narcissist

    A growing number of politicians and thought leaders are warning that a second Donald Trump presidency could slide the country into authoritarianism, or at least further away from a democracy than it has perhaps ever been.

    Trump has promised “to use the powers of his office to persecute anyone who dares challenge him,” writes Robert Kagan in The Washington Post. Kagan is an expert on the U.S. government and an author who works at the Brookings Institution and The Washington Post. He warns that America is drifting that way unless its leaders take meaningful, collective action to stop Trump.

  2. Oh my civil or any kind kinetic WAR…….LOL   Bring it MAGA.  I am disabled veteran who defends the constitution without regard to party and proved it. Most of these keyboard/verbal warriors didn't even serve in the girlboyscouts. 

     

  3. nineball, absolutely except they use Jesus and christian nationalism to justify the violence or authoritarianism. James Carville said it correctly on Bill Maher's show, CNN has a clip.   They are THE american taliban. 

  4. Blowfish . That is what Williams is.  A blowfish.

    They puff themselves up to appear more threatening than they really are.

    But when shit gets real, they cut and run. (Exhibit A:  Hawley, Josh on 1/6/21)

    1. Which "ratty neighborhoods", Lloyd? Most MAGAs are white, male, over 65, earning over $50K a year, and living in dense urban areas such as Atlanta, Chicago, and Dallas. They might like to pretend to be country boys, but most are not. Cultivated resentment and gun fetishism are their most prominent characteristics.

      And they are quite unpopular nationally – at 24%, they are much less popular than the Black Lives Matter movement, Joe Biden, or either major political party. 

      1. Such an excellent point and one that needs to be made again and again. The MAGA, white Christian nationalist,anti-constitutionalist Party, does not represent the majority of Americans…nor American voters.

      2. I don't resort to euphemisms when referring to MAGAs…Dave Williams shows a clear history of extremism and sidling up to violence. By definition, the most prominent MAGA characteristic is adherence to the orange cult-of-personality.

        So, for honest discussion, let's copy and paste the complete U of W statement, sans your edits. And stay on track re the article's subject… 

        "Who are MAGA supporters, and what do they believe in? In these figures, we elaborate on these questions. As the results make clear, they’re not a terribly diverse group: at least 60 percent of them are White, Christian and male. Further, around half are retired, over 65 years of age, and earn at least $50K per year. Finally, roughly 30 percent have at least a college degree. That MAGA supporters are older, Christian, men, more than half of whom are retired, comports with the now-familiar images of the Capitol riots. What may seem a bit surprising is that about half are middle-class by income, and almost 1/3 are middle-class by educational criteria. Apparently, these same images of the riot participants, ones portraying a mainly working-class crowd, were misleading.

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