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January 18, 2013 06:36 AM UTC

Open Line Friday!

  • by: Colorado Pols

“You know how to stop abortion? Require that each one occur with a gun.”

–Rush Limbaugh, Wednesday


44 thoughts on “Open Line Friday!

  1. Really good article about how we’re all in violation of the CFAA. And because of that federal prosecutors are going after people with punishments that:

    Swartz was facing more prison time than he would have if he’d committed a serious physical crime, such as assault, burglary, grand theft larceny or involuntary manslaughter.

    1. Being from that era and remembering the crafting of the CFAA and its revision, not all computer services were protected by username/password even back in the day. Text banners promoted the TOS to users as they signed on to unprotected systems. For a time it was contemplated that the CFAA be used against spammers by posting TOS announcements to the SMTP greeting message; one of my own systems did this for a while when I was more involved in anti-spam development, not that I ever expected to have anyone prosecuted for it – it was just a widely accepted idea in the anti-spam community.

      The article is outright wrong in singling out a roommate’s use of Netflix -the TOU for Netflix allows household use of a single account. It is likewise mischaracterizing most peoples’ use of the NYTimes website. And by their interpretation of “publicly accessible”, anyone who figures out a flaw in software allowing unauthorized access is merely accessing publicly available information.

      It seems after all this time, people don’t really have a good idea about computer security concepts or realities.

      1. He might mean, how do we identify new comments within diaries? There seems to be no helpful “new” tag like there was with soapblox. I know I was wondering that. The ticker of new comments is helpful, but it’s not like being able to search for the new comments on a thread that may have 30 of them since the last time you logged in.

        1. exactly. as it is now I must remember the total # of posts so that when I refresh I can see if the n
          # has grown. Then I have to read many to see which are the new ones


    A traditional religion, one built on “right belief,” requires a closed information system. That is why the Catholic Church put an official seal of approval on some ancient texts and banned or burned others. It is why some Bible-believing Christians are forbidden to marry nonbelievers. It is why Quiverfull moms home school their kids from carefully screened text books. It is why, when you get sucked into conversations with your fundamentalist uncle George from Florida, you sometimes wonder if he has some superpower that allows him to magically close down all avenues into his mind. (He does!)

    Religions have spent eons honing defenses that keep outside information away from insiders. The innermost ring wall is a set of certainties and associated emotions like anxiety and disgust and righteous indignation that block curiosity. The outer wall is a set of behaviors aimed at insulating believers from contradictory evidence and from heretics who are potential transmitters of dangerous ideas. These behaviors range from memorizing sacred texts to wearing distinctive undergarments to killing infidels. Such defenses worked beautifully during humanity’s infancy. But they weren’t really designed for the current information age.

    Tech-savvy mega-churches may have twitter missionaries, and Calvinist cuties may make viral videos about how Jesus worship isn’t a religion, it’s a relationship, but that doesn’t change the facts: the free flow of information is really, really bad for the product they are selling.

    1. So, apparently, one can’t put a title line for their posts.

      This one should be “Religion may not survive the Internet”

      I don’t care for this new system.

      1. Have you looked at an electoral map adjusted for population rather than land mass? It’ll put a damper on that mistaken impression.

        There are a few versions over at, widely replicated across a number of other sites if you don’t want to go there to see them – just search for ‘2012 election map adjusted for population’.

      2. Only a redleg would be proud of a shitbag tactic called red mapping.

        Pinkos like this agop reptile are bragging about how gerrymandering districts has allowed them to retain HR seats inspite of being outvoted by nearly 5 percent.

        The new tactic is for redleg states like Michigan and Wisconsin, with solidly Democratic electorates but copperhead State Legislatures, due to redmapping, to pass legislation splitting the electoral votes.

        Had that been the case this past November, scumney would have won the election in spite of being outvoted by 5 million votes.

        The only way the redleg can win now is by Apartheid.

        And he’s trying that one with all his might.

        1. Absolutely correct Rocco. Let them keep believing that they some how hold the Country while they loose more and more influence. I need to ask you a quick favor. Let Arapagop know for me that I leave in the morning to attend the inauguration. Doh!

          1. Absolutely I will. Congratulations on getting to go, Please pen something when you get back telling us about it.

            Next time agop posts, I’ll let him know.

  3. Well, pretty much as I feared. Much slower to load, just a lot more pretty colors and graphics which have little to do with, you know, communicating. HTML tags? Is this 1999? No quote block, bold, italic, etc. All the meat is packed into a narrow column instead of across most of the page.

    I used to open a page in my Opera, put [new} in the “Find In Page” search, and I could just hit Enter and move from one new comment to another. Not now. In fact, from the front page I have no clue if there are any responses or not, or how many new.

    I really hate to piss on the feet of people who have contributed so much to my political fun. There was a food forum I spent a lot of time on like here. And just like here, it went New and Improved. It wasn’t, I stopped posting.

    Sadly, I think this is gonna have to be a repeat. I’ll come bacck a few times, but I think I’m outta here.

    Thanks for the memories.

    1. Check the ‘Pardon the dust’ diary. The Guvs have already committed to bringing back the ‘[new]’ tag.

      I’m with you on the too little space on the page comment. I don’t find it significantly slower to load, though.

      I always used HTML on the old site; never did care for the buttons. I’m pretty sure WordPress offers a visual editor that would be a huge step up from the old site’s editing “capabilities” – hopefully we’ll have access to it shortly.

  4. Testing. This is fun. Anything new when one is old is fun:-)

    There was a heck of a panel on CSPAN today on the issue of eradicating poverty Anyone see it. I mean, it was a refreshing use of the airwaves to hear truth spoke to power. If Obama waslistening, he’d throw away the draft of the State of the Union speech, and rewrite it.

    1. I watched a good portion of it and enjoyed it as well, especially the prof from Drexel getting in Newt’s face while he proclaims that he has had several “radical” ideas while participating. Tavis Smiley is a good facilitator of this kind of disussion

    1. I won’t really miss them if they’re gone. I hated them at first, but adjusted by simply writing the first sentence of my intended post in that field. (Sometimes that ended up being the entire post.)

    1. Competent candidates and decent ideas would be a good start for y’all.

      In the meantime, you can threaten to hurl the nation into default, threaten to seceed, and continue to be total asshats.

      After all, it’s worked so well for you so far.

      1. Rock on, Rocco!!!

        Hey, Gopher, who you workin’ for now? Gotta figure it’s somebody gonna lose the race for governor of Colorado, amIright? You just keep picking losers and we’ll make sure they keep losing.

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