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November 15, 2012 04:06 AM UTC

Lamborn understands Veterans and their concerns

  • by: Barron X

(Did Lamborn–who has zero years of military service–just lecture veterans on hard work and self-sacrifice?   – promoted by ProgressiveCowgirl)

Some folks, including Vets themselves, might think that what Vets care about are things like medical care and educational opportunities.  


What Vets really want is a strong economy, even if that means cutting taxes on the rich.  

How do I know?

I just got an email from Contressman Lamborn telling me so.  


Our Veterans Deserve a Strong Economy

by Congressman Doug Lamborn (CO-05)

The best way to honor and take care of our veterans is to ensure the country they come home to is vibrant, prospering, and ripe with opportunity. Our veterans represent what makes America great, they served their country with honor and distinction. These American patriots and their families model the service and sacrifice that have made and kept our country great. United States military veterans volunteered to serve at the front lines of freedom. They knowingly committed to place their lives at risk to advance the cause of freedom, protect the Constitution, and the rights granted by it.  No cause and no sacrifice can be greater.

Only a healthy, vibrant and opportunity-rich economic and employment landscape will truly support our military members when it is time for them to hang up their uniforms for the last time. We need a country that will encourage them and allow them to continue to serve, contribute and succeed. Like the World War II generation, these young men and women will serve as our country’s future leaders. They have the desire and heart and firm grasp of the core values that make America great. The lessons of leadership, hard work, and self-sacrifice so vital to the success of our armed forces are not lost once they complete their military service commitment. These vital character traits, also vital to the private sector, transcend military formations and transfer to their professional civilian endeavors. These same values will help our country recover and prosper again.

At a time when our nation faces unprecedented annual deficits and a crushing debt burden, it is clear we have tough spending and policy choices ahead of us. We need common sense reforms now. We need reforms that will grow our economy and encourage private sector business investment. We need a fairer, flatter, and simpler tax code. We need a government that will get out of the way of the people it is supposed to support and defend.  

Government doesn’t have the solutions for a growing, vibrant economy. More government is not the answer for America’s economic troubles. In fact, as we have witnessed these last few years, bigger government weighs on individual freedoms and ingenuity, increasing economic woes. We need the federal government to stop inhibiting American ingenuity and drive to once again illustrate the power and promise espoused by American exceptionalism.

Veterans understand that America must lead from a position of strength. They understand and appreciate the transformative power of education and the opportunities for prosperity that it creates. They know that success comes through hard work, dedication, and sacrifice. They recognize that you need to lead, follow, or get out of the way.

We as Americans must overcome our differences to protect the position of American strength and leadership. Our veterans understand American exceptionalism because they themselves are exceptional Americans. We should take a lesson from our veterans to inspire the changes we need to put this county back on a path to prosperity. If we truly care about taking care of our veterans, the best we can all do for them is preserve traditional values and take care of the country for which they sacrificed so much.

Lamborn is a member of the House Veterans’ Affairs Committee and the House Armed Services Committee.

Glad he clarified that for me.  

Vets may have sacrificed, but we just can’t afford all those “entitlements” and veterans benefits.  


28 thoughts on “Lamborn understands Veterans and their concerns

  1. So giving up their health and training benefits shouldn’t be an issue.  

    Golden showers (oops, trickle down economics) from billionaires is what the GOP is all about.  Ya see, The Trump needs  to replace his chopper.  It’s practically two years old for god’s sake!

  2. He agrees with you on your most important issue; abortion.  You probably won’t vote for any Dem in any election, even where a Dem could win, even though Dems keep on fighting the Lamborns to get support for vets because Dems also support women’s rights to make their own decisions about child bearing and that’s a no go for you. So tough luck, buddy.

    You’ve got your priorities and if vets really were high enough on your list, you’d vote accordingly. That would be for electable, not third party, candidates who could and would do something for vets.  Granted you can’t have one of those in Lamborn’s safe red district, if that’s where you live, but you could in other areas such as the Senate and the White House. You choose not to.  You choose embryos over everything else.  Well, that’s the way it goes.

    1. at 8 weeks or later,

      the 1.25 inch “embryo” has an identifiable brain, eyes, heartbeat, even the fingerprints are established.  

      (If this is not correct, I welcome corrections.)

      But some folks say it’s not a human being because it has not been born ?  

      I’m not choosing to limit the rights of women, just for the sake of controlling their reproductive activities:  I’m supporting the right of every person to their own life.  

      I believe that God wants people to be allowed to make their own decisions and choices, even bad choices, and that no other person has standing to judge them as worthy or unworthy.  

      But, as a society, we have a responsibility to intervene when one person exercising their choices and their rights infringes on the rights of someone else.  

      When the rights of 2 different people are in conflict, how to resolve it ?  

      Some rights are inherently more important than others.  

      I say the right to life of one person, the first right without which there are no others, takes precedence over inferior rights of the other.  

      You say this person is not a person.  


      Actually, I’ve heard Congressman Lamborn speak on his pro-life stance, and I don’t think he would put it the way I did.  

      I think he agrees with my position because someone, perhaps a Pastor, told him to.  I don’t think he understands or believes in the values in the Declaration of Independence in any philosophical sense;

      for him, they’re just the party position.  

      1. I believe that God wants people to be allowed to make their own decisions and choices,

        What Bible are you reading?

        The Hebrew God is all about control, removing all decision making from the individual.  There is nothing about will, or freedom, or self-determination, or liberty, or democracy in the Bible.

        I’ve long been amused by conservative Christians who somehow see America and its secular ideals and government within those ancient writings.

        There’s no mention of abortion in any way, shape, or form, either.

        BTW, I think most abortions are performed BEFORE 8 weeks.  But as you say, if anyone knows better, please advise.  

      2. I’m not convinced.

        But that’s not really the issue. Do you want to stop abortion? Support CONTRACEPTION. Support REALISTIC sex ed for children – the kind that assumes some of them are going to have sex while they’re still young and immature. The kind that will teach them how NOT to get pregnant.

        Because… and I hope this won’t blow your mind too much… if you don’t get pregnant, you won’t have an abortion. And it’s already proven to work out just like that.

        If you won’t get behind this, I hope you say why.

        1. support expanding programs like WIC.  If you want to stop abortion, funding WIC so low-income families aren’t quite so desperate is dollar-for-dollar many times as effective as donating to groups fighting for laws against abortion.  The leading factor in most abortion decisions in the U.S. is money.  When people can’t afford to feed the family they have, adding an extra child doesn’t normally look like a good idea.

      3. I believe that God wants people to be allowed to make their own decisions and choices, even bad choices, and that no other person has standing to judge them as worthy or unworthy.

        Your beliefs are all your own.  You can bow down to your benevolent, malevolent, or ambilvalent sky ghost all you want but that is for YOU.  Your arrogance is at play when you think you have any right to force policy to fit your fiction.  

        You’re too much an idiot to even realize you’ve undermined your central point within the first statements.  

        But some folks say it’s not a human being because it has not been born ?

        umm, not some folks — no its a bit wider than that.  How about you check in with your God and let him offer you some proof on the viability of life (non-dependent human life) at 8 weeks.  You can’t use your heart on this one (because that’s a pretty one-purpose organ) but I question your ability at rationality with the one tool you possess that could give you insight. It’s already too far gone for you to use it capably.

      4. According to the bible, a fetus is not a living person with a soul until after drawing its first breath.

        After God formed man in Genesis 2:7,   He “breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and it was then that the man became a living being”.

         Although the man was fully formed by God in all respects, he was not a living being until after taking his first breath.

        In Job 33:4, it states:

         “The spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty gives me life.”

        Again, to quote Ezekiel 37:5&6,

         “Thus says the Lord God to these bones:   Behold, I will cause breath to enter you, and you shall live.   And I will lay sinews upon you, and will cause flesh to come upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and you shall live;   and you shall know that I am the Lord.”

        In Exodus 21:22 it states

        that if a man causes a woman to have a miscarriage, he shall be fined;   however, if the woman dies then he will be put to death.

        it  should be apparent from this that the aborted fetus is not considered a living human being since the resulting punishment for the abortion is nothing more than a fine;   it is not classified by the bible as a capital offense.

        According to the bible, destroying a living fetus does not equate to killing a living human being even though the fetus has the potential of becoming a human being.   One can not kill something that has not been born and taken a breath.   This means that a stillborn would not be considered a human being either.   Of course, every living sperm has the potential of becoming a human being although not one in a million will make it;   the rest are aborted.

        Lots of articles support this, this is just the first one I found…argue away!

  3. The “beauty” of Lamborn is that he can change the subject faster than his opponents.  Barron you get sucked into it every time.  Instead of recognizing that Lamborn is accountable for the spending and cuts that threaten our well-being he sends out an email that redirects attention to his economic “patriotism.” Lamborn represents the hopes of the Republican party in Colorado, the 5th is just the vehicle for that voice. I’ve adopted DeGette, Perlmutter, and Polis for my voice in Congress, Republicans in metropolitan Denver-Boulder have adopted Lamborn.

    p.s. Studies out of the UK confirm that the abilty of a fetus to feel pain (what could be more human?)begins at 20 weeks.

    1. Fetal pain is very difficult to asses, but the connections and structures which allows one to experience pain (feeling it is a reflex-see Terry Schiavo) don’t exist until 28 weeks.

    2. and it’s not as if Barron would consider abortion at one minute, much less 20 weeks or even safe effective birth control.  

      The point is very simple.  Dems support vets where it counts, with the legislation they propose and support with their votes.  Republicans don’t. Everyone is entitled to their priorities but must realize that when two priorities are incompatible the choice cannot be made without sacrifice.

      Unfortunately, since opposing choice is Barron’s top and absolutely deal breaking priority he is in a position where he will have a very hard time finding candidates who support vets.  He can look for candidates who oppose choice but will vote to fund vets’ needs but he won’t find enough of them to do him much good on both those fronts as that combination in today’s political equation is very rare.  

      Pointing that out isn’t beating up on anyone. It’s just life its own self.  

      1. They lack the structures and nerves necessary.

        There’s a big brouhaha in the vegetarian communities since some leader came out in favor of eating oysters.  His logic is impeccable; if one is vegetarian because you don’t want to cause pain in your food sources, oysters meet the criteria.

        So, slather on that Tabasco, they can’t feel the burn.  

    1. …Oh, OK, mandatory AF ROTC in college, but otherwise not.  (And I refuse to say “served” or not, there are many, many ways to serve the people of America that is not unique to the military.)

      Anyway, I think I DO know what vets want.  Care as they need it without one year of waiting to be processed in the VA. Fulfillment of our promises to them when they enlisted.  Respect for their sacrifices.

      Am I wrong?  

  4. He seems to do a fine job of putting out mailers press releases, and now, emails at taxpayer expense.  Beating him up without results, seems a tremendous waste.

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