Thursday Open Thread

“If we love our country, we should also love our countrymen.”

–Ronald Reagan

18 Community Comments, Facebook Comments

  1. Gilpin Guy says:

    Is this the day we find out the number 1 news story in Colorado politics in 2021?  Be still my beating heart.

  2. Nasty Old Man Suffering From Dementia says:

    Thank you President Biden for killing another batch of terrorist, well done.

    • MichaelBowman says:

      Hey Pfermented Pfruit, try not to snarl. The Chinese are right: out of chaos comes opportunity. 

      US manufacturing revived by supply chain chaos

      • allyncooper says:

        Hopefully the supply chain crisis will be a wake up call.

        Several years ago I attended a town hall meeting presented by one of the Board of Directors of RTD on the progress of the light rail system. He was giving a slide show and one slide came up on the screen showing the  rail cars being made in Korea. I immediately asked him why the rail cars were being built in Korea instead of an American manufacturer, since this was an American transportation project paid for by American taxpayers. He replied there was no American manufacturer that could make the rail cars.

        Assuming he was telling the truth (and if he wasn't that's a another story) its a sad indictment on how decimated our industrial/manufacturing capacity had become.

        • Nasty Old Man Suffering From Dementia says:

          There are companies that manufacture rail cars but they are mostly for freight and not passenger.

          The computerization of inventory was a game changer that allowed pull/push replenishment practices. Combined with academia who pushed to eliminate all inventory except safety stock from the manufacturing floor. Taxation of inventory as property tax also contributes to minimize inventory.

          Industry consolidation, stock valuations based on short term gain, and other policy objectives, encouraged offshoring of manufacturing to our ultimate detriment.

      • Duke Cox says:

        I dunno..

        Maybe it was a bad idea for unions and American workers to force the poor, struggling, multinational corporations to off-shore all those millions of jobs. 

        And I am sure consumers asked for the change to warehousing that allows stores to no longer carry a significant, if not extensive, inventory of the merchandise they sell.  

    • JohnInDenver says:

      You appear to be one of the few Republicans recognizing that President Biden had something to do with the successful raid.

      Thanks for noticing and crediting the President.

  3. allyncooper says:

    National debt hits $ 30,000,000,000,000 (that's 30 trillion)

    "A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking about real money"  Everett Dirkson

    Make that a trillion Ev.


    • Maybe we should restore the funding levels that allowed us to start paying that down.

    • Gilpin Guy says:

      or reverse the Bush and Trump tax cuts which gutted the federal revenue streams so that the .1% can enjoy more caviar for breakfast.

    • ParkHill says:

      New debt is literally free money. Interest rates are so low, that the government is actually making money.

      Investors and corporations have massive amounts of cash sitting around, and no safe place to stash it. By supply & demand, they have bid the interest rates on US government debt below the cost of inflation. 

      The government takes this money and invests in education, child tax credits, infrastructure projects, social insurance, etc which pays off multi-fold.

    • davebarnes says:

      USA GDP hits $23T.
      Is your mortgage higher than your income? Oh, I thought so.

      • MichaelBowman says:

        Our debt:GDP post-WWII peaked at 125% and we went on to build the largest and most robust economy in the world, with the largest economic driver as its companion: the American middle-class consumer. 

        • allyncooper says:

          That's true, but post WWII left the US as the only country left standing. The economies of Europe and Asia were essentially destroyed in the war along with their manufacturing and industrial capacities.

          Yes the robust post war economy was fueled by the American middle class consumer buying goods that were manufactured in America because they weren't being manufactured elsewhere. 

          That's certainly not the case today.

          • notaskinnycook says:

            The other thing that created that large American middle class was the need for so many things. No one could afford anything during the Depression. Then came the war and, although people had money from working in various defence industries or serving in the military, manufacturing was diverted to the war effort and everything, from butter to cars was rationed. Post-war, people had money and needed everything. That kind of economic perfect weather will probably never happen again.


      • Voyageur says:

        Actually, my income is more than twice my mortgage.

    • JohnInDenver says:

      Yep … we spent some money. 

      This time around, policymakers decided to take on more debt to blunt the damage from the pandemic by sending out direct checks, granting a childcare tax credit, and creating a paycheck protection program. All of these programs have left households with stronger balance sheets than before the crisis.

      “So if you think government debt is too high, ask yourself if you think it would be better for families to hold that debt,” [Professor J.W.] Mason said.

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