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January 16, 2012 04:31 PM UTC

MLK Day Open Thread

  • by: Colorado Pols

“We may have all come on different ships, but we’re in the same boat now.”

–Martin Luther King, Jr.


63 thoughts on “MLK Day Open Thread

  1. Smart ammunition is about to make things a lot more dangerous for guerrillas fighting regular troops

    The XM25, as the new gun is known, weighs about 6kg (13lb) and fires a 25mm round. The trick is that instead of having to be aimed directly at the target, this round need only be aimed at a place in proximity to it. Once there, it explodes-just like Shrapnel’s original artillery shells-and the fragments kill the enemy. It knows when to explode because of a timed fuse. In Shrapnel’s shells this fuse was made of gunpowder. In the XM25 it is a small computer inside the bullet that monitors details of the projectile’s flight.

    1. Everyday on average, 3000 children die of disease because they have no clean drinking water. Betcha the cost of just a few of those Magic Bullets could supply clean drinking water to a village in Africa. Nothing magic about that.

      Today we honor MLK, who knew the real weapons of mass destruction are ignorance, poverty, and disease.  

        1. of the 21st century. That’s not what folks are taking issue with. It’s your utter and complete tone deafness on posting it today, of all days, a day celebrating the life of a man who was assassinated.

          It’s just bad, bad taste and you could have waited until tomorrow to post it.

          I think that’s what most folks are trying to impress upon you and I get the feeling you aren’t quite getting that.

            1. model

              In 1965 this was considered quite the weapon.

              And I assure you on April 5, 1968 there were plenty of Americans defending the weapon, even extolling it.  Jimmy Ray was the problem, not Remington.

              well, Jimmy Ray and the guy who called in the bomb threat to the airline to keep MLK on the ground in Memphis (never prosecuted). And the guy (s) who bankrolled Jimmy Ray (never really prosecuted).  And the rest of the conspirators.

              Sort of like the guys who executed Fred Hampton and Mark Clark December 1969. (no photo- but it was CPD standard issue Colt.)

              Well, I don’t know what will happen now; we’ve got some difficult days ahead. But it really doesn’t matter with me now, because I’ve been to the mountaintop. And I don’t mind. Like anybody, I would like to live a long life – longevity has its place. But I’m not concerned about that now. I just want to do God’s will. And He’s allowed me to go up to the mountain. And I’ve looked over, and I’ve seen the Promised Land. I may not get there with you. But I want you to know tonight, that we, as a people will get to the Promised Land. And so I’m happy tonight; I’m not worried about anything; I’m not fearing any man. Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord. MLK, Memphis, April 4, 1968

    2. As with hollow point and armor piercing, we can all count on these being used by criminals on the street.  Can’t wait. Police officers must be thrilled about this.  Posting this in celebration of MLK Day, are you Dave?

    3. U.S. developed the proximity fuze in World War II, firing as anti-aircraft from our 5-inch anti-aircraft guns on ships.  But it is a very interesting development to shrink it to a 25 mm round.  Unlike another poster, I’m not worried about crooks using it against cops.  Neither am I worried about rounds falling into the hands of terrorists — these swine just throw grenades into school yards, they don’t want to deal with anybody who can shoot back.  So, it’s a good thing for the good guys to have them.  And while I appreciate allyncooper’s priorities, I think stopping some of the corrupt giveaways in the tax code is a better way to supply clean drinking water in Africa.  Aalternatively, decommissioning a single aircraft carrier battle group would keep us in smart bullets until the next millenium or the next Broncos super bowl victory, whichever comes first.

    4. …that you have long thought or not thought at all to post such a tremendously insensitive article today. I hope that you just did not think as I can excuse that as ignorance. To have thought about it and done it would be way worse. Completely in disbelief.

    1. The entire healthcare system, like politics, is flush with our cash. Worse, every year government officials add thousands of pages of regulations that increase the cost of getting a fucking shot or prescription.

      Only in America could we use the bloated and despondent government to help lead us through to a more efficient system.

      At the end of the 20th century, Taiwan was a rich country, but its health care system was shot through with inequalities (sound familiar?), with half the people not covered by any health plan at all.

      So Taiwan set about to fix the problem by studying other countries’ health care systems. It came up with a plan that covers everyone, provides a wide variety of health services, and doesn’t require long waits for doctor’s appointments. All for 6.23 percent of the Taiwanese GDP, with administrative costs at 2 percent, the lowest in the world.

      Should I warn Mr. Lin that here in the U.S. we spend a whopping 16 percent of our GDP on health care? That one out of every six dollars goes to doctors, hospitals, insurance companies or drug companies? Should I tell him that our private insurance companies spend 30 percent of our premiums on administrative costs?

      He already knows.

      Of course is oped is slanted and jaded to the liberal leftists position, just review the comments at the bottom. That sad fact is that Obama Let Us Down, this is just another example of his binding ties with massive corporations that have led us to a 17% real unemployment rate.

      Read more: Colorado Voices: Healthy profits over health care – The Denver Post

      Read The Denver Post’s Terms of Use of its content:

      1. it’s certainly slanted away from the non-reality, non-fact based positions of the right. I fully understand why righties feel that reality slants “left” and therefore reject it.  In fact I have to agree with them: Real world facts are certainly not conservative policy friendly.

        That’s why they’re always having to come up with 1984 nomenclature like “Clear Skies” for more pollution, “Job Creators” for job slashers and exporters, “Saving Medicare” for ending medicare, “Supporting the Troops” for voting down any funding to help troops and vets, etc.


    2. Just because a few doctors are one-percenters doesn’t mean med school is a good idea if your primary goal is to maximize lifetime earnings. The debt and insurance issues alone make that a questionable choice, and then there’s the part where much of the work done in hospitals is done by interns and residents. I have a friend who is a med student in his second year of residency and has had months where he survived on protein powder (he’s kind of a jock, it’s what he had in quantity) and the kindness of friends and colleagues who know what residency is like. After rent and student loan payments, the $10/hour or so residents make doesn’t go far.

      If you want to be in the 1%, be born there and get a job as a “manager” through your family connections. That’s really the only sure way to do it.  

      1. My dad was a doctor, who spent his career working for the city and caring for the indigent. It was a comfortable living, but there’s a reason why we always had Fords and Toyotas and my siblings and I went to public schools and universities.

  2. Ten years after two foreign wars, out economy is in shambles with massive government debt and the economic inequality between the haves and the have nots has never been greater since the Great Depression.

    There is no such thing as “guns and butter”. MLK knew that in 1967, and it’s just as true today.

      1. (Incidentally, if you haven’t seen Oliver Stone’s “Nixon” [1995], it’s highly entertaining. Filter out Stone’s conspiratorial frame mind, and Anthony Hopkins’s portrayal of Nixon is still masterful … at least in the realm of drama-as-history.)

        Some consider 1980 to have been “the turning point.” I think a better argument can be made for 1968. Either way, the turn was towards a nightmare instead of a dream.

    1. It is probably a more apt metaphor for our country today.  We’re all in the same boat but it is on the shoals and Republicans want to be the first ones to abandon ship.

  3. Deadline Tuesday

    According to United Wisconsin, organizers need to gather 540,208 valid signatures – or 25 percent of all of the votes cast in the election that put Walker in office – to force a recall election. But they have had their sights set on gathering as many as 750,000 signatures to ensure that they meet the threshold even if some are disqualified.

    State Democratic Party Chairman Mike Tate told a local TV station on Sunday that recall organizers are “on track to hit or exceed” this goal, predicting a “very large number” of signatures, enough to stand possible legal challenges.

    Happy Day after MLK Day

  4. So this might be a “fascinating and overrated” endeavor (so says

    The Daily Beast’s Howard Kurtz) but hey what the hell let’s get to the only mystery on the GOP side of ’12.

    the short list w/ 2 unknowns:

    1. Marco Rubio: FL freshie senator but factfully challenged on his family history

    2. Chris Christie: NJ Gov who almost squeezed into the candidate clown car but rightfully figured it a lil’ too snug. A nor’east social moderate that does nothing for evangelical votes but would make for fun Veep debates.

    3. Rick Santorum (yeah, right): you know him and Rickie would bring fundies & evangelicals  due to his no abortion/no gays/know nothing bona fides but hard to reconcile this one.

    4. T-Paw: ex-Minn Gov & early quitter much closer to blue collar than Mittens can ever play but this parochial aw-shucks goober doesn’t bring much to the ticket.  Hell,  FauxNews doesn’t want him as a squawking head since he just can’t put asses in seats.

    5. Nikki Haley:  SoCarolina Gov & early Mitt fan that’s a female conservadim TeaBagger with a tad more brains than AK $arah.  She can’t deliver Carolina to Mitt and has made some bone-headed moves in her short tenure but some think a lady could seal the deal.    

    6. Rob Portman (Huh?): Frosh Ohio Sen vetted by conservatives but blander than Velveeta.  This would kill Mitt’s chances but Portman is getting some play.

    7. Susana Martinez (double-Huh?) untested 1st term NewMex Gov to win the West and she’s had enough push at NRCC events to get noticed but who the hell is she?    

    I’m thinking fundies & hard righties are  really pushing Santorum but the BIG money pegs the most likely as Christie.  This gets the boisterous Christie fanbase behind the ticket and sets him up for a 2016 run after Obama’s 2nd term.  It’s a consolation for the realist that know Mitt can win it.

    Anyone have other names to throw in the hat?

      1. otherwise how could you explain the constant non-Mitt shuffling with Iowa and New Hamp folks actually saying they didn’t know much about Newt, Santorum or the other clowns.  I’ve heard quotes from GOP electorate idiots that make me wonder just how some of these mouth breathers don’t kill themselves eating with utensils let alone making informed decisions.  

    1. Romney will need a tea-partier, so called (Santorum is too far out), so that Mittens can veer towards the center, and a woman from the South might help shore up any soft states in that region (VA, NC?) Plus, of course, she endorsed him, unexpectedly, in the SC primary.  

      1. for similar reasons, except Romney wont need much help winning the hard South, but closing the (yawning) Latino gap could be a motive, plus some help out West. My gut says Martinez is less of a wild card under the national spotlight, too.  

    1. So much to learn from it about the animal kingdom, if humans would just allow themselves to think of other living beings as bright, thoughtful, creative, fun-loving creatures.

    2. That birds use 90% of their brain finding new ways to play. They’re like toddlers that never grow up. Wish I had the time to have one in the family! (A bird, not a toddler.)

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