Thursday Open Thread

“In politics the middle way is none at all.”

–John Adams

39 Community Comments, Facebook Comments

  1. Duke Cox says:

    A heads up for our resident mugwumps, from a founding father..😉

  2. allyncooper says:

    Yes, it's that bad…..

    As Biden's approval ratings sink to historic levels, some Democratic operatives are now suggesting another run in 2024 by twice failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

    What a country…….

    • Diogenesdemar says:

      It’s just as bad as someone or anyone wants it to be…..

      “. . . some Democratic operatives . . “

      There’s always someones for anyone, Allyn — I’m sure I could find a number of someones who’d like to literally dig up and run the sacred relic bones of Ronnie Raygun? — Get a grip.

      The burning question for the purveyors of our modern age of twitter/instagram/facebook/24-hour streaming/endless news cycles: . . .

      . . .



      . . . Now, if you’ll excuse me — gotta’ go — someone said Ariana Grande’s cousin’s ex-nail-artist is maybe supposed to be making a major announcement about nuclear nonproliferation, or this morning’s hottest necklace, or her favorite mineral water for 2022, or something . . .


      • MichaelBowman says:

        …forgotten in all of this hub-bub is what our choices were, and the things we wouldn’t know right now if FatDonnie had been a smarter insurrectionist.  


    • JohnInDenver says:

      Gallup's comparison shows Biden at 43%;

      At this same point in Gallup's tracking, Trump was at at 36%, Obama was at 50%. 

      So what sort of "historic levels" are you talking about ????

      • MichaelBowman says:

        This 👆👆👆

      • JohnNorthofDenver says:

        I think there was a Rasmussen poll that was 12-15 points off the average. Then Republican astroturf through troll farms to amplify the message. 

        The question is why does it matter? Does that change the need for the voter rights act? What does it matter the head of the ticket in an election years away if we know parents wont be able to afford child care to have the time to vote? 

        Yes, politics are a thing but there has to be a time for policy. 

    • RepealAndReplace says:

      Hillary is tanned, rested and ready!

    • Duke Cox says:


      What a country! The USA..welcome to the third world.

      Thanks to the Republican party and the corporations for whom they labor so diligently.

      They are doing OK, right?

      The billionaires, the CEOs, the Captains of Industry, the Lords of Wall Street, the traders, the bankers…

      As long as they are all doing well…I guess we should be happy and shut up…right?


      • MichaelBowman says:

        I've just finished the book Robert E. Lee and Me: A Southerner's Reckoning with the Myth of the Lost Cause  The 1% have been successful in recruiting the 99% to fight to preserve their way of life for a long time now. I can't say enough good things about this book.  I convinced my parental unit, who has held dear the Lost Cause theory for some time, along with compatible ideas about Confederate statutes and the names of DOD bases, to read Ty Seidule's work.  He's a student of history and the book, written by a West Point professor. He took the book seriously and it turned his world upside down.  It is a must-read for everyone. 

        Also, we sat together and binge watched the first season of Aaron Sorkin's 2010 -2012 series Newsroom, centered around the early days of the Tea Party.  That, too, is time well spent. To think that 12 years later we're floating in the remnants of that cesspool. Like the book, it opened his mind to a different perspective.  The first episode of Season 1 should a required watch in every high school civics class.  

  3. Gilpin Guy says:

    Oh the suspense of waiting to find out what the No 2 & 1 political stories of 2021 in Colorado.

  4. Sunmusing says:

    all we need to really know is…all these republicans are trying to overthrow our government…all of them…there are no longer any credible republicans in our state…they have been as corrupt and as dishonest as they come…ALL OF THEM…we must not bend, we must stand against these people who are threatening our democracy…If there is an "R" behind the name, we must assume they are in support of the insurrection, and they must be rejected…we really have no choice…they have forced us into this…

  5. 2Jung2Die says:

    Anyone want to start a pool on how many people will get COVID this year at the Capitol? Post's Alex Burness tweeted:

    Many Colorado lawmakers I’ve talked to have basically accepted the likelihood of an outbreak at the Capitol. State estimating at least 1 in 15 people here is infected, per @MarcSallinger. There were lots of unmasked folks in the building when session began yesterday.

    • Diogenesdemar says:

      At Colorado’s current daily rate of infection, of about 260 cases per 100,000, means that an average of roughly 2% of any group of Coloradans is contracting the virus every week right now.

      1 in 15 is about 3 times higher than the current statewide average rate, but hey, there’s probably 3 times more freedumb than average up there under our goldumb . . . 

    • kwtree says:

      Schools are heavily impacted by COVID right now. If staff absenteeism goes over 25%, many will have to return to remote learning. Substitutes are hard to find, even after school districts have increased the hourly wage to be at least competitive with the fast-food industry.

      • MichaelBowman says:

        Meanwhile next door, the Kansas Board of Education has OK’d a plan to allow substitute teachers certificates (subject to background checks and a high school diploma) for anyone over 18 years old. 

        Maybe someday we’ll treat our educators as the professionals they are and not like a temp worker for a fast food chain? 

    • The realist says:

      I just noticed a lot of unmasked in Chambers as the Governor's State of the State ended. 

  6. kwtree says:

    Who funded the insurrection? Apparently, the Devos family and several other conservative billionaires did. Visiting CU scholar John Eastman wrote his infamous “How-to-coup” memo while he was a senior Fellow at the Claremont Institute, an insurrectionist think tank of sorts.

    Alex Jones, Julie Fancelli of the Publix Super Markets family, and various organizers for Women for America First also contributed to and organized the event.

    All these hypocrites were lamenting the violence ( after funding and creating the coup attempt) on January 6,2020.


  7. MichaelBowman says:

    This is probably one of the best releases from the Feds on rural I have ever seen. Diplomatically unvarnished. We’ll worth the read:

    Investing in Rural Prosperity

    Economist Albert Hirschman identified three paths people can take in poor, tightly controlled communities: Exit, Loyalty or Voice. Exit refers to out-migration, leaving the place where opportunities are limited and tightly controlled by the powerful elite. Out-migration is more often an option for those with education, and the prospect of migrating can be stymied by a cultural toolkit that sees limited prospects. Some scholars and policymakers have considered encouraging and facilitating Exit as a way to address rural poverty. By Loyalty, Hirschman meant allegiance to the status quo, accepting the oppressive conditions and divided patron-client social relations. Sometimes people stay and don’t make trouble because they want to be close to family. But other times, they come to accept their circumstances, unable to imagine a different scenario. As one Black woman described her father: “A way of thinking, it’s that Delta mentality … my father was a sharecropper. He did the fields and everything, and he was kept in debt, and his mindset had gotten to the point, ‘This is all I can do.’” While they understand its source, local change agents deplore the “mindset” of Loyalty, of accepting things as they are. Voice refers to speaking and acting for change, resisting the status quo, and working to build a more equitable and inclusive community, often at real risk of personal and family punishment or blackballing by local elites (my emphasis).


  8. Diogenesdemar says:

    Not from The Onion . . .

    R.N.C. Signals a Pullout From Presidential Debates

    The Republican National Committee says it will require candidates to pledge to not participate in debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates.

    . . . what a country Party?!

    • Duke Cox says:

      What the actual fuck? Do they think no one will notice?

      • JohnInDenver says:

        hard to say … the Commission doesn't negotiate with Parties, it invites individual candidates to participate, and provides slots for the campaigns of those candidates to fine-tune the rules.


    • RepealAndReplace says:

      Because their candidate did such a splendid job debating Joe Biden in 2020. 

      Then again, it resulted in me hearing a political talking head use the term "shit show" for the first time on TV. (Dana Bash on CNN immediately after the infamous first debate).

  9. Diogenesdemar says:


    “Coming up here next on FOXnews . . .

    .  . . Supply chains.  And, inflation.  And, Hunter Biden. — Oh, my!!!!!! . . .

    . . . Don’t look up!!”


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