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January 03, 2022 11:15 PM UTC

Tuesday Open Thread

  • by: Colorado Pols

“There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.”

–Albert Camus


44 thoughts on “Tuesday Open Thread

  1. Good morning…

    Welcome to the demise of the Republican party.

    Democrats and Independents need to press forward for a better nation, a stronger democracy, while the Orange Horde tears the GOP apart.

    It appears that the Republican parties' plan to USE Trump, not STOP him is going to backfire on them. Republican unity, unless something changes, is impossible. It will, I believe, fall to the selfishness of the the various power centers.

    When it comes to the Orange King, fealty is required, not optional. He is a jealous God. I do not believe the GOP will unify to stop the GQP. 

    Conservatives who dream of an ascendant moderate wing of their party are…just dreaming. Perhaps, if they find a leader.


    1. What planet are you living on? Just this AM Biden approval at 44%. Nobody likes your guy. On any given issue 32% will agree with anything put out by Democrats. These are the KOOKS like yourself and the rest of the PolCats. Add 12% of low information voters (morons) that like Biden and you have your electorate.

      I must commend your optimism!

      1. Just this AM Biden approval at 44%. Nobody likes your guy. 


        This is rich, coming from a guy who defended a White House pResident for 4 years who never had approval ratings above 50%, was under water for all but the first 2 weeks of his Sadministration, and did not win the popular vote in either of his elections.  

        But, you don't want to talk about that.  Do you?

      2. Gallup allows comparison from President to President with very similar methodology.

        At this point, nearly a year into his term, Trump's December average was at 36% approval among all adults. The most recent up on Biden, December 1-16, has Biden at 43%

      3. I live here on planet Earth, in an area known as Colorado. I could not stay on my home planet, as the commuting costs were just too much.

        "Nobody likes your guy." 

        Come on, PP. Nobody likes anybody anymore. He is a damn sight more popular than YOUR guy, though.

        As realist said, below…Trump cannot win the 2024 presidential election. Cheating is his ONLY path to victory. And a significant part of the Republican party is trying to help him do it.

        1. Makes me think of a bit Seth Myers did recently where he said the Mayor of New York pretty much exists to be the target of the rage of everybody who lives in the city.  Regardless of who the Mayor is.

    2. Mornin’.

      In my view, Republicans need to follow, not merely find, their moderate leaders if they want to halt theTrumprot. Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger nationally, Pam Anderson and Marina Zimmerman locally are examples of Republicans who are fiscally conservative and check most of the culture war boxes,, but still promote the rule of law and reject the Big Lie.

      However, most Republicans are too chickenshit to really get in there and battle for these candidates and more importantly, for these principles. That includes the Republicans and former Republicans who post on here.

      They seem to be more interested in making the Democratc party into “Republican Lite” ( fiscally conservative, check the culture war boxes) than in working to teform their own preferred party.

    3. The GQP is in charge of the Party and will be for the foreseeable. Some of the Liz Cheneys (really very few of them) might survive but they will not dominate Trumpism. Most importantly, for Trumpism (i.e. authoritarianism) to win the Presidency next time, they have to cheat. That's why they're working feverishly to make the vote meaningless. 

      We're in for a tough ride.

        1. “This morning’s edition of The Whining Simpleton brought to you, . . . as always, by the pfruity simpleton owner at Simpleton Trucking, . . .

          . . . Annnd, also by contributions from FOXNews. FOXNews, where old, unused brain cells go to die . . .”

        2. I'm curious, Powerful Pear — which Republican stance do you take these days.

           * vaccines were developed by Trump & ought to be a matter of personal choice.

           * vaccines were developed too fast & we should wait and see

           * vaccines are… changing people's DNA, including tracking capability, or doing something that nobody should want. 

           * the small faction of squish Republicans who think vaccines are great, people should get them, businesses can require them for employees and customers, and at least some public health requirements for them are appropriate and lawful (Hogan/Baker/Sununu)

          1. First

            But that wasn’t good enough for Democrats who professed not to want them because they were developed under the Trump administration. How silly!!! You people poised the well with your Trump hatred. The low information voters (morons) don’t know the Democrat Party only core value is power at any cost.

            1. Hold it right there…PP. I know a lot of Democrats and I have heard no one say they wouldn't get vaxxed because the vaccines were developed during the tenure of the Great Orange Grifter. I repeat…no one.



    4. Hello Polsters, totally off topic, but just coming up for air as we (still) live in Louisville.  The edge of the fire was 580 feet from our house according to Google Earth.  We evacuated and spent a few nights at a hotel and returned yesterday to an intact house.  There is debris, including spent embers and charred pieces of wood, right in our front and back yards.

      While evacuating, the wind ripped my cargo box right off of my roof and blew it 150 feet away, almost into Harper Lake. It nearly blew our car over. While leaving the house there was this eerie orange glow right behind us, and we could barely see from the dust and debris flying through the air.  I had to open and close the car doors for the kids because gusts made the flapping doors erratic and dangerous.  Unreal.

      We have power and the gas was turned back yesterday. Can’t drink the water though so we are showering at friends and have bottled water for brushing teeth, etc.

      Our main thought during the fire was ” oh well, insurance will cover it ” when today I am pretty certain that will not be the case.  991 structures burnt and most of them family homes, that housed people that are suffering and have to fight with insurance for the years to come and rebuild their lives.

      We pledged as a family to give all we can to help our neighbors, since we are so lucky. We will do so.

      Have to go now, and take my daughters 11-year old best friend for some clothes shopping and retail therapy.  Her house burned down to the ground along with everything else she has…

      More later.  Cheers to all of you.

      1. Direct help is often the best as opposed to non profits. If you have a family that has needs; clothing, food etc. I’ll be glad to put the word out and they can arrange to pick up the supplies at our church or I’ll bring them to a location you selected.

        For clothing need sizes, male/female, child/adult.

        Please specify other needs. Glad you are safe, it can happen to any of us.


        1. Thanks Pear and Kwtree. The friends we have that have lost their homes are not short on clothes, food, etc. Lots of people are pitching in, which is great to see.

          They opened up N. McCaslin this morning, and I saw the devastation near Harper Lake again during the AM commute, which is very sad.

  2. President Biden to address the nation today. I’m curious what “they” have told him to say. Maybe, 300,000,000 people don’t have a cold. Maybe Dr. Fauci has resigned because there is no Federal solution to COVID. Whatever is said 68 % of the people will disregard.

    1.  there is no Federal solution to COVID.


      Is that why the former guy kept saying it was a hoax for a long time, then the shit hit the fan.

      But, you're right.  Same old story.   Republican President comes in and shits the bed.  But Damn that Democratic President for not cleaning up fast enough after Republican President who fucks things up royally.

    2. re:  "don't have a cold"

      two weeks ago (long enough for death numbers to be pretty complete), death counts for those with confirmed COVID or symptomatic enough to have COVID as cause of death on their death certificates were 28 people in Colorado, 2168 in the United States.  Cumulative count in the US was 807,753 in less than 2 years. 

      some "cold". 


      1. Something I always  think when Pfruit spouts his drivel:

        Talk, it's only talk
        Babble, burble, banter
        Bicker, bicker, bicker
        Brouhaha, balderdash, ballyhoo
        It's only talk

      2. Amazing that no one died of the flu in 2020 or 2021. Could it be that hospitals/Doctors got COVID relief money for every procedure that was coded as COVID? Could it be?

        Come on John, you are a smart guy. You know that Doctors and Hospitals tapped into the fire hose of revenue pumped by the Federal Government. COVID all day 24/7 365.

        1. Damn all those doctors and hospitals! . . .

          . . . When all they really needed to do was give directions to all those sick folks on where to drive to get to your church for free handouts of Clorox and light bulbs!!???

          Simpleton douche!



          Remember, if it’s not on FOXNews, it never happened, . . .

          (. . . and, if it is on FOXNews, it probably never happened, either.)

        2. Go ask your local hospital administrator just how much "relief money" they get for procedures coded as COVID.  Short version I've seen — the "relief money" was sent out as a general tranche of money, having nothing to do with individual procedures or COVID case counts.


    3. I expect that the President will talk about the Biden Boom. "It's morning in America!"

      Biden will probably recommend that unvaccinated Americans should go ahead and "get the jab", since unvaxxed are 30 times more likely to be hospitalized, and 98/100 Covid deaths are now coming from the unvaxxed.

      I'm not sure what to make of PPs enthusiasm for Republican Euthanasia. It seems counter-productive to kill off the Right-wing voting base.

      1. I drove by a DougCo test site earlier this morning, the line of cars with folks waiting to get tested was literally a half-mile long!

        . . . That musta’ been one heckuva New Year’s Superspreader Eve party??  Either that, or they’re giving away free Ttumpy Bears and .223 ammunition?? . . 

      2. Parkie, heed the wisdom of FDR: Never interrupt your enemy when he is attempting to commit suicide.  You’ll only disrupt his concentration.

        ​​​​​A million more covid deaths before the next election is quite possible.  98 percent will be among the unvaxxed, At a rate of 3 to 1 right wingers, that could swing some close house and senate seats, as well as some judgeships legislators, governors, etc.

        I urge everyone to be vaccinated. But if they refuse, fuck ’em if they can’t take a joke!

  3. Just saw one of the most humorous takes I've seen in awhile:

    Axios Denver: "Polis steps into the national political spotlight"

    Gov. Jared Polis is set to launch his reelection campaign this month — but many suggest he's eyeing a different office: President.

    State of play: Chatter about Polis, a former congressman, being a candidate for the White House began at least six months ago, close associates say, and is now being amplified at the national level — most notably by prominent Republicans.

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