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September 09, 2011 02:23 AM UTC

Presidential Jobs Address Open Thread

  • by: ProgressiveCowgirl

Watch live here.

“Pass this jobs bill” is the phrase of the day.

Check out live Twitter results for American Jobs Act.

And some excerpts released ahead of the speech.


47 thoughts on “Presidential Jobs Address Open Thread

      1. Boehner and Cantor are than during the debt ceiling hostage situation.  Wouldn’t bet the farm they will be much more cooperative in concrete terms but both have made noises about the potential for cooperation. Boehner even mentioned something about respect(?!).  I can’t think of any reason other than that polling, calls and e-mails may be telling them they’ve taken their vicious, take no prisoners attitude tone a little too far for the tastes of average Americans who don’t identify as diehard TPers

        They would love to see more economic melt down and suffering to further weaken Obama so the only possible reason for making any effort to go so far as to strike a more courteous tone and possibly even negotiate a few points would be real fear of losing their grip on power in the next election if they don’t.

        ‘tad can point to the Rasmussen negative number on Obama all he wants but all polls say approval for congress is even lower, much lower, and Rs have made it very clear that they are the ones in control of congress.  Are the grownups in the GOP wing of the GO(T)P becoming a tiny bit concerned?

  1. “Should we keep tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires, or should we put teachers back to work so our kids can graduate ready for college and good jobs? Right now we can’t afford to do both… this isn’t political grandstanding, it isn’t class warfare, it’s simple math.”

    But he’s always a good speeechifier… waiting to see if he follows up hammering the same messaging in the media and Congress, and if the legislation is decently written.

    1. I believe he has the best interests of our country as his bedrock motivation.

      This is an action plan that he can promote and explain.

      The power in what he is doing is that the international situation is under control so they can’t attack him for being weak on security.  He is winning abroad so it allows him a chance to focus on the domestic.  This could work.

      He just flat out challenged them to work with him.  I thought it was an effective speech because he is no on the offense for a jobs bill and Republicans will have to try and sabotage it without looking obvious.

  2. He’s hammering the manufacturing jobs theme hard, but that’s got to be the hardest piece of this logistically. No way to make it cost-competitive without heavy regulation of offshoring and outsourcing.

  3. As Obama calls out their “remove all government regulations” strategy for improving the economy (if Dubai and Haiti represent improvement…)

  4. I am not surprise that, as a complete airhead, you promoted this diary without knowing what was actually in Obama’s “plan.”

    It’s easy to call yourself a Progressive.  It’s a lot harder to live up to that label.

        1. Obama’s speech is at least as politically important and IMHO far more respectful than that.

          You propose instead that we shun the President and instead simply rant on about how bad the Republicans are?  ’cause that’s mature…

            1. It’s that the President tonight proposed fucking me out of Medicare.

              Your mileage might vary, David.

              If you might someday get your head out of your ass, you might hear what the President actually said.

              1. Even if it’s Rick Perry discussing why he’s going to take us back to the 1850’s. Because it’s the president.

                If you don’t like what he’s proposing, bitch about that. But don’t say this should be front paged because you dislike what he’s proposing.

              2. He said changes need to be made, and they do. To think otherwise shows a real anal-cranium inversion.

                Once the details start coming out. I’m going to be looking for cracking down on the unmitigated greed of the medical industrial complex. Medicare swings a giant club.

                We don’t know enough about it yet. Like you, I’m the wrong age to be scrambling for work and paying ridiculous premiums for high-deductible crap health insurance. I haven’t been to a doctor’s office yet that hasn’t tried to screw me over money. They justify it by saying, “don’t worry, your insurance will cover it.”

                Try waiting for some details before you go off like a sputtering rocket.

              3. think much of PC. You make that very clear every chance you get and I wouldn’t presume to criticize you for it.  But it is pretty obvious that a diary on the most important political story of the day is going to be promoted on a political blog.

                Many here have had positive things to say about Obama’s speech, even though I’m pretty sure most of us didn’t like every aspect of the plan he outlined, possibly, depending on the individual’s views, including issues to do with medicare. That, like promoting a diary on the day’s biggest political event, is pretty much the usual way of things on a political blog.  

    1. Not things that are newsworthy but offensive to Ralphie. Not candidates taking questions in person. Not the President of the United States addressing a joint session of the House of Representatives. So, with how disagreeable Ralphie is, I see only one option for tomorrow’s front page diary:


      3 eggs, beaten

      1 cup raisins

      1 teaspoon vanilla extract

      1 cup butter, softened

      1 cup brown sugar

      1 cup white sugar

      2 1/2 cups all-purpose flour

      1 teaspoon salt

      1 teaspoon ground cinnamon

      2 teaspoons baking soda

      2 cups rolled oats

      3/4 cup chopped pecans


      In a small bowl, combine the eggs, raisins, and vanilla. Cover and chill for 1 hour.

      Preheat oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C).

      In a medium bowl, cream together the butter, brown sugar, and white sugar. In a separate bowl, combine the flour, salt, cinnamon and baking soda; add to the creamed mixture and stir until all of the dry ingredients are absorbed. Next, stir in the egg and raisin mixture, then stir in the rolled oats and pecans. Dough will be stiff. Drop by teaspoonfuls onto an unprepared cookie sheet.

      Bake for 10 to 12 minutes in the preheated oven, until the edges are golden. Allow cookies to cool 5 minutes on the baking sheet before removing to a wire rack to cool completely.

      (I like to add craisins and white chocolate chips. Your call.)

      1. PCG, I can’t believe people eat crap like that!  That screws me out of my semi-sweet chocolate chips!  I can’t believe you posted this crap.  Of all the FPEs I’ve ever hated, including that guy who wasn’t really elected but the Govs elevated him anyway, you are absolutely the worst!

        Other than that, though, this sounds pretty good.

    2. Let’s catalogue this autopsy

      1. You criticized Cowgirl for promoting a diary about President Obama’s speech — last I checked, this website is about American politics and Obama is the President – when he gives a speech in front of every elected, Federal official, I think the diary deserves promotion – do you disagree on that point, Ralphie?

      2. You called Cowgirl an “airhead” which was a personal insult – why did you resort to personal insulting, Ralphie?

      3. You criticized Cowgirl for not “knowing” what was in Obama’s speech – last I checked, Cowgirl doesn’t work in the White House, so how would she know, Ralphie?

      I look forward to your answers, Ralphie  

        1. how a middle-aged political junkie can get so randomly pissed at one of my fellow 20-something political junkies on a fucking blog, of all places.

          It’s kind of cute…in a completely pointless and wholly unnecessary way…

          1. I mean, now I poke him back, so I assume I’m just perpetuating it, but I really haven’t the faintest how it started. It is a bit silly he’s wasting his time harassing someone our age on a nightly basis, but then, I’m wasting time here on a nightly basis…

            Maybe he just thinks my self esteem is so fragile I need a thread full of people defending me every night.

    1. Of course, not a single thing of substance from the GOP side of the fence, but that’s not what the ad is designed to do.  (And, frankly, not something that the GOP appears to have on its side of the fence anyway…)

    2. I admit that it was a direct attack on Obama, which is impressive in some way, but it doesn’t make sense to me.  Not sure why, except it throws out a bunch of numbers and says 0 jobs created (net).

    3. “OH MY GOD” be afraid of the deficit.

      We need a “strong” leader like Mitt Romney (even though cough-cough I’m not planning on voting for him at the moment) to get us through this crisis.”

      Are you sure you aren’t mainlining Republican talking points?

      1. First because you can “borrow” the concept for ads from our side many times. Second, because you need to counter the effective ads.

        Your approach of saying everything we Dems do is great and everything the Repubs do is awful doesn’t win elections.

  5. And one that Boehner and Cantor seem interested in at least nodding and smiling nicely for.

    But don’t fool yourselves, people.  The Republicans weren’t applauding and making supportive faces during the speech.  They’ll take this “pre-compromised” proposal – one which the President is promoting as ready-to-pass, complete with gimme’s to the GOP – and use it as the communist starting point, and they’ll whittle it down until it’s completely useless and then complain that Obama wasn’t willing to compromise with them.

    I’m pretty sure Obama isn’t reading this, but if he is…  the first time Congressional Republicans start making noises about needing to compromise on this bill, Obama’s “jobs tour” speeches should immediately switch to the “here’s what I really would have liked” version of the American Jobs Act, complete with “but because you need help now I proposed a compromise bill…” and “I’m sorry Republicans in Congress don’t want to make our nation strong”.

  6. And granted it’s a little thing but those little things can be a giant tell. At one point Obama said that every child deserves to go to a school that is in good shape. And the camera panned the audience and the Republicans were looking upset.

    Now I can understand that they may disagree about if we can afford to fix schools right now and where the money will come from. But to look like a sourpuss at the idea that kids should be in decent schools – that’s a person who is not looking to our future.

    1. of them do not support publicly-funded schools anyway, so would oppose major new public funds going to existing schools.  Now if the funds could be used to build new religious schools, they’d perk up.

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