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December 12, 2020 07:24 AM UTC

Weekend Open Thread

  • by: Colorado Pols

“There are no desperate situations, there are only desperate people.”

–Heinz Guderian


64 thoughts on “Weekend Open Thread

  1. Thomas Edsall's Opinion piece in the 11-18-20 NYT, ‘The Far Left Is the Republicans’ Finest Asset’, needs a coutnernarrative; something simply titled 'The Far Right Is the Democrats' Finest Asset'. 

    I am assembling bullet points to be expanded into something that can be submitted. Please feel free to add your own:

    The Far Right is Democrats' Finest Asset
    – antiscience    
    – antiintellect
    – QAnon is primary source of information
    – misinformation
    – subservient to an authoritarian
    – short-term thinking and planning
      – Rs already have their future in sight. They want to keep you from realizing yours.
    – failing at voter suppression
      – covid response as a form of voter suppression
    – militarize he police
    – Medicare for none, just get sick and die quickly
    – Facism is the best

    1. *xenophobia, esp of dark-complected  folks from “shithole countries”

      * contempt and suppression of non-white US citizens

      * patriarchal traditions- women’s primary role is childbearing and homemaking, should be seen and not heard, gender blending is dangerous

      1. – at war with America and (little d) democracy
        – conservatism is now defined by absolute obedience to a leader with autocratic tendencies who fetishizes dictators and autocrats all over the world (Schmidt)
        – R members of Congress have abrogated their oaths to defend the Constitution of the United States (Schmidt)
        – betrayals of the Atlantic alliance; racism; cruelty (Schmidt)
        – corrupt
        – internment camps along the southern border
        – separation of families
        – abdication of duty by a co-equal branch of government
        – mass rallies to incite fervor among cult members
        – creation of a sense of mass victimization
        – allegations of conspiracy by unseen forces

        1. I believe that it's all distraction.

          100% of what is listed above happens and is happening. But for the big money movers it is all 100% distraction.

          They are fine with anything, as long as they get richer and faster than the rest. Sure – OSHA is ok, as long as it's really about keeping the labor on the job. Unemployment bonus because of Covid – ok, but pay the rent/mortgage/car payment and get back to work.

          The point is the haves continue the having and the rest are wage slaves- see you on boxing day next year.

          Civil rights are a good thing – because it means a bigger labor pool. Minimum wage is a jobs killer, but as long as there are ways around it and I get the carried interest and pass through deducts – so what?

          Trump administration is going to gut what oil regulations remain on the way out the door and sign a bunch of leases. giveaways.  But the left is too socialist or unrealistic. Now we gotta focus on the deficit.

        2. May I expand your misinformation line item?

          Beyond mere misinformation dissemination, the GOP, aided and abetted by the Trump crime syndicate, have completely and wholly eradicated truth from their world POV. They lie as a matter of course. They plan for lies and cover-ups. They have weaponized falsehood into a quasi-military tactic. 

          They neither apologize nor bother to try to cover up their mendacity. There are no honorable people in the Trumplican© party.


              1. Joe Scarborough in the above op-ed:

                "The Republican Party projected itself as the bulwark against left-wing radicalism, the moral arbiter of all that was evil, and the righteous judge of what was constitutionally permissible and what was an abomination against God."

                Joe, you are absolutely a bloviating, self-righteous idiot to think that your heartbreak that your beloved Republican dogma has ever been anything but a ruse that you bough into. From the viewpoint of someone who you would have despised, there is nothing new under the sun with this latest revelation.

              2. Exhibit ‘A’: when the quiet part finds the microphone. I’m old enough to remember when Joe and Newt were pals.  I do watch the show regularly, not for Joe, but for a number if his other regulars. I think we can credit Joe, in part, for Ttump’s 2016 victory. 

                  1. It always was, CHB. But it temporarily relaxed the wall for election news but apparently has revoked it. How could any rational human being think breaking election coverage would have gone on this long?

  2. When being in Ttumpenthrall to the “Loser of the Year” just isn’t honor enough . . . 

    Texas GOP Chief Suggests Forming ‘Union of States’ After U.S. Supreme Court Tosses Election Challenge

    . . . so much winning.

    Meanwhile back at the frontier stockade, a lone figure practices in front of her full-length mirror . . . “Majorette Calamity Q-bie, of the 3rd Western Dumphuckistan Trumpettes reporting for duty, suh!!”

      1. Maybe we need to have that conversation…….

        Czechoslovakia had that discussion and reached an amicable divorce settlement. Other countries have done it. England and Wales may soon be doing it with Scotland.

        Figure 1 is something we have known for many years and to tell you the truth, I’m getting tired of it. 

        The south has been an economic basket case forever. I don’t think we should be subsidizing those states anymore. 

        I have family member who live in South Carolina. I do everything I can to avoid visiting them there. So the next time I find that a trip is unavoidable, I bring my passport in addition to my driver’s license.

        If these people really want to leave and set up some backward Christian theocracy which sees a orange-haired, raccoon-eyed clown as their messiah, I say, “Don’t let the door hit you on the ass on your way out.”

        I guess if we want to do it properly, we should add a secession amendment to the constitution to spell out how this is to be done. 

      2. ” . . . our one and only hero . . . “

        “I alone can hero you! . . .”


        “Now is the time for all good not-heros to come to the aid of this pouting orange looooooooooser! Boycott the runoff election — that’ll shur learn ’em real good!”

  3. Taxation without Representation!  The losers and “successionists” should simply refuse to file  and pay their income taxes.  That’ll teach the deep state.


  4. I sure as hell won't miss them when they're gone. We won't have to see Moscow Mitch or Blanche Graham as a leader in our legislative branch. We can shake our heads and say, "Those foreigners really have strange ways." We won't have to listen to the Ivy League-educated Sen. John Kennedy trying to sound like a member of the Duck Dynasty clan. And who amongst us will shed a tear to see Alabama and Mississippi leave.

    1. well, it would make for a new hierarchy … I guess that would put without the near certainty that Alabama or Mississippi will be last in educational accomplishment, my home state of New Mexico might be in trouble? 

      The map would have to adjust … Arizona is really not a "red" state now, and it would provide a land bridge between the West Coast and CO & NM.  And Utah's version of "Republican" is different than so many other places … we might be able to have them do a plebiscite to determine their choice among the break-up.

      I'm wondering if it might be more sensible to have TWO countries, joined into one Union, sort of like England and Scotland being Britain? Or Denmark and Greenland?

      1. No. Treat them like they treat immigrants.

        Here’s their Dear John letter:

        Dear Red States:

        We’ve decided you’re leaving. We intend to form our own country without you, and we’re taking the other Blue States with us.

        In case you aren’t aware, that includes California, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and all of the Northeast. We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation, and especially to the people of the new country of New Colorado.

        To sum up briefly:

        You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states. We get stem cell research and the best beaches.

        We get Elliot Spitzer. You get Ken Lay.

        We get the Statue of Liberty. You get Dollywood.

        We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom.

        We get Harvard. You get Ole’ Miss.

        We get 85 percent of America’s venture capital and entrepreneurs. You get Alabama.

        We get two-thirds of the tax revenue. You get to make the red states pay their fair share.

        Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition’s, we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single moms.

        Please be aware that Nuevo Colorado will be pro-choice and anti-war, and we’re going to want all our citizens back from Iraq at once. If you need people to fight, ask your evangelicals. They have kids they’re apparently willing to send to their deaths for no purpose, and they don’t care if you don’t show pictures of their children’s caskets coming home. We do wish you success in Iraq, and hope that the WMDs turn up, but we’re not willing to spend our resources in Bush’s Quagmire.

        With the Blue States in hand, we will have firm control of 80 percent of the country’s fresh water, more than 90 percent of the pineapple and lettuce, 92 percent of the nation’s fresh fruit, 95 percent of America’s quality wines (you can serve French wines at state dinners) 90 percent of all cheese, 90 percent of the high tech industry, most of the U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools, plus Stanford, Cal Tech, MIT, and University of California.

        With the Red States, on the other hand, you will have to cope with 88 percent of all obese Americans (and their projected health care costs), 92 percent of all U.S. mosquitoes, nearly 100 percent of the tornadoes, 90 percent of the hurricanes, 99 percent of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100 percent of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia.

        We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you.

        Additionally, 38 percent of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, 62 percent believe life is sacred unless we’re discussing the death penalty or gun laws, 44 percent say that evolution is only a theory, 53 percent that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61 percent of you crazy bastards believe you are people with higher morals than we lefties.

        By the way, we’re taking the good pot, too. You can have that dirt weed they grow in Mexico.

        Peace out,

        Colorado (original source unknown)

      1. You'll still be able to get it … just like we have French, Italian and Thai restaurants. 

        I'm sort of wondering how Louisiana will fare without the US Corps of Engineers to guide the Mississippi River and do something to the water brought inland by hurricanes.

  5. Instead of burning those teachin' books, how about we all gather around the campfire and bring our old 'My Pillow' for fuel? 

    Keep the faith folks, White Prosperity Jesus isn't done yet!! 

    1. “Angels from Africa, Angels from South America . . . coo coo ka choo.” Meh.

      Many have tried over the years, but it’s no easy thing to out-crazy the one true faith! . . .

    1. Here.  Fixed it for you. 

      Weren’t we supposed to have a demonstration at the State Capitol today?  anyone know what happened to it?

      Let’s chalk it up to an exorcism gone bad? Father Greg pulled an Aunt Clara and got the wrong right folk?

      1. Scratch that last comment. Cars are streaming past my house, on Lincoln St., between I-25 and the Capitol, as I write. Flags waving, guns blazing (they wish), horns and loud music blasting.

    2. Erik Malbeutsch of the Colorado Times Recorder reported that about 60 folks showed up and proclaimed the usual fantasies about Trump’s “win” and the unfairness of it all.

      A planeload of local people went to DC.

  6. Another one bites the dust.  So much losing . . .

    The judge in the case, Brett Ludwig, who was appointed by Trump to the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Wisconsin, on Thursday held a hearing where the president's lawyers made their arguments to set aside the result of the state's popular election, which Biden won by more than 20,000 votes.

    "This is an extraordinary case," wrote Ludwig in his decision Saturday.

    "A sitting president who did not prevail in his bid for reelection has asked for federal court help in setting aside the popular vote based on disputed issues of election administration, issues he plainly could have raised before the vote occurred."

    This Court has allowed plaintiff the chance to make his case and he has lost on the merits," the judge wrote.

    "In his reply brief, plaintiff 'asks that the Rule of Law be followed' …. It has been," the judge continued.

    Ludwig dismissed the lawsuit "with prejudice," underscoring his belief that Trump had no valid claim.

    1. This Court has allowed plaintiff the chance to make his case and he has lost on the merits," the judge wrote.


      Well, that slams yet another (maybe the final) door on Rudy's aspirations. After the SCOTUS lost he said:

      "The case wasn't rejected on the merits, the case was rejected on standing. So the answer to that is ….. blah, blah, rudy-blah".


  7. Well, my daughter’s father-in-law is in the hospital with COVID.  My son-in-law, who lives with us, is quarantining in the basement in an apartment he readied just in case.  My granddaughter’s boyfriend also lives with us.  His parents now have covid.  We just rented an airbnb apartment for 10 days so he and my granddaughter can quarantine there. He was sort of showing symptoms.

    Bob Ewegen’s Law:  You can dodge the bullet but you can’t dodge the volley.



  8. Your Daily Dose of Shadenfreude.

    Lynette Hardaway and Rochelle Richardson said:

    “If the Supreme Court can’t save our republic, then where is the military? Trying to overthrow the Government by exploiting a Pandemic, thus implementing rules that break our election laws, is unconstitutional. If the DOJ and the FBI can’t do their jobs, then where is the military? This is a Coup!”

    In other news,  on Parlor Milos Yiannopolous melted down and used all caps to say:


    “I will have vengeance,”

  9. Wow- twelve spam diaries posted within 24 hours. Each a miracle of word salad that almost, but not quite, makes sense. Each contains exactly one link that won’t open in a protected browser window. 
    Someone who knows more about Internet data than I do- what is the point of posting spam diaries? Is it just to bump a site’s real content down the column? Is it to harvest user data? Simple harassment? What?

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