CO-04 (Special Election)
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(R) Greg Lopez
(R) Trisha Calvarese
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President (To Win Colorado)
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(D) Joe Biden*
(R) Donald Trump
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CO-01 (Denver)
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(D) Diana DeGette*
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CO-02 (Boulder-ish)
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90%
CO-03 (West & Southern CO)
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(D) Adam Frisch
(R) Jeff Hurd
(R) Ron Hanks
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CO-04 (Northeast-ish Colorado)
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(R) Lauren Boebert
(R) Deborah Flora
(R) J. Sonnenberg
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CO-05 (Colorado Springs)
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(R) Dave Williams
(R) Jeff Crank
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CO-06 (Aurora)
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(D) Jason Crow*
90%
CO-07 (Jefferson County)
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(D) Brittany Pettersen
85%↑
CO-08 (Northern Colo.)
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(D) Yadira Caraveo
(R) Gabe Evans
(R) Janak Joshi
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State Senate Majority
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DEMOCRATS
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October 22, 2019 09:39 AM UTC
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Ha ha rural people are such idiots. Right Pols?
And you wonder why Democrats aren't popular in the countryside??
You wonder why Republicans aren't popular in the high population areas, dummy?
BTW, were you one of the four people that signed a recall petition against Leroy Garcia? Or did you screw that up and the SOS office threw yours out because something was wrong with it?
Ha ha — No, idiot. It’s that idiots are idiots, idiot.
. . . why do you hate “rural people,” idiot??
Moderatus…..the most eloquent spokes-shill for rural people since Arnold Ziffel was turned into Sizzlean.
Fluffy's the
TruffleTrumple pig of Pueblo County.Is it your assertion that this "Uncle Jesse" wannabe is representative of "rural people"?
As an individual who has lived a good portion of my life in a town of 300 with a cornfield out my back door, I can tell you….he is a caricature of "rural folk". His "look" no more represents "rural folk" than his obviously lack of skill in the area of mathematics.
Shouldn't that Budweiser case come with just one beer?
No, you don't get to a real party until you have a 2, 4 and a 6. (A case and a six-pack)
Actually, Moderatus is correct about Dems not being popular in rural areas. Saw something recently about that issue from Montana Governor Steve Bullock. With Trump's tariffs wrecking farm profits, Dems could make real headway if they can get out of the continual focus on the AOC style socialism.
We've had this discussion before, CHB. We do love our socialism. To quote V, "it ain't socialism if its a white guy getting the check!!" That, and the fact that the most robust economic activity today is being driven by Democratic policies (billions in wind, solar projects; new schools in practically every small community) just makes for more head-shaking. As long as we continue with our ideologically-bent, flame-throwing leadership we've had/have nothing is going to change. We're increasing irrelevant; we'd rather harbor a grievance over a non-issue than to work out a political win by engaging the other side.
Squirrel!
Bzzzzxt wah wah wah . . .
. . . I’m sorry CHB, [il]logic failure. Rural America with its co-ops, producer associations, REAs and other utility and energy providers, etc., etc., has little disdain for socialism in practice — but it has always had a heaping helping of insular aversion to “outsiders” and “others” (i.e., wrong complexion, wrong religious belief, wrong country of origin, wrong sex, wrong hairstyle, wrong attire, wrong musical taste, wrong dietary preferences, etc., etc.).
You’re right, they do fear AOC, but not for the lame reason you gave. They also used to fear fenced prairie, Chinese railroad workers, and those new-fangled horseless tractors. Progress is hard in rural America, mostly because it’s just not historically welcome; rural America never has, and never will be, an engine or embracer of progress and change . . .
. . . the same as it ever was.
Gentlemen: I'm thinking much more about the Midwest here, not rural Colorado. Dems can reclaim PA, MI, WI in 2020; maybe also IA; but they need something more than the inner city appeal of AOC. And I don’t think I gave any reason at all; let alone one that is “lame;” other than Trump tariffs.
Any of you, besides Michael, actually read the Green New Deal? There is good stuff in there about climate. But additional "social justice" items that distract from what could be a pure climate message.
but they need something more than the inner city appeal of AOC
Well, now you're just baiting KiwiTree aka MamaJama aka La Pomposa by picking on AOC. That doesn't mean you're wrong, CHB.
You're right about the Green New Deal. It does have good stuff in it but the good stuff about saving the planet is mixed in with all the economic crap.
Is there any conversation here that doesn't turn into old white guys caterwauling about AOC?
Why would you care?
not this year.
R & R: AOC for me is a mixed bag. Just when she is getting it right on something like climate, then she wants to re-make the entire economy with no idea how to pay for it all.
And AOC has taken her share of criticism from the far left types who want to replace capitalism with socialism. That worked out real well in the Soviet Union.
I'm all for an environment that lets people contribute to a marketplace of ideas (which Congress should be). She's one of 435 representatives; there are still a few tea partiers left who give plenty of balance on the other end of the scale.
If our Congress could ever get beyond dysfunction we could take the ideas our representatives bring to CapHill and turn them into some useful. Until then we're stuck with 'he said/she said'.
It's a sad place and time we're in in many ways: a time when we've amassed more knowledge than at any time in the history of mankind; created the technology to fix every damn problem we have. All while our system of governance is held hostage by a minority of Americans who think Arthur Laffer is a real economist, that lynching isn't just for black people anymore and can’t explain the difference between socialism, communism and Democratic socialism.
Some uplifting words from avowed socialist
AOCYvon Chouinard: "it's not too late…."As Michael says, the Soviet Union embodied socialism only insofar as communism is rooted in socialism, but hardly pure.
It depends on the commitment to small-d democracy, in my opinion. Old style communism mandates a “dictatorship of the proletariat “, which always devolves into plain old dictatorship. This clears the way for the abuses of a Stalin, a Mao, a Kim Jong etc, who then become entrenched and build a police state which represses free speech.
Women, sexuality, and the means of reproduction have to be rigidly controlled in dictatorships, as well…usually while giving vehement lip service to equality of the sexes.
European style democratic socialism says that there are common goods: health, education, environment- that these are worth taxing heavily for, since then the people can access those common goods at free or low cost.
At the same time, they keep a democratic process, and don’t obsess over who is a real “proletariat”.
We in the US are almost the last major industrial country that hasn’t embraced this hybrid model of some commonly owned social institutions, with a capitalist free enterprise model that encourages innovation, and a robust democracy in which politicians are accountable to constituents.
Then, maybe it was me or Bowman or someone else that said? . . .
. . . or maybe not? Who knows; who can tell? It’s all so confusing, whatever “it” may, or may not, be . . .
. . . Madco’s really the only person here who can keep this stuff straight, and then only if he really wants to, or the planets are properly aligned, or he’s bored enough, or something.
And only if his bongo drums are tuned to true north.
I could care less about their fashion choices. DiCenzo’s look is pretty much a “Fuck you, Libs, you think I’m a yokel, I’ll dress like one” fashion statement, but also a practical work outfit. When I worked in construction jobs where I would get dirty, muddy, or needed lots of handy pockets, I wore similar coveralls and scruffy shirts in the middle of the city. I do think I wore it better. ☺️
Victor Head, the
plumberbackflow preventer, was also supposedly one of the three that delivered the petitions to the Secretary of States’ office.I wonder why he chose not to be in the photos..,embarrassment? Resentment that the recall committee wasted his $5k donation?I am not going to make huge deal of it because I know you're just having fun, but I think it should be noted.
It is easy to make assumptions about people because of their involvement in certain activities, but I think your "steal his look" story may be a little too much fun for me.
I know a guy who looks and dresses just like (exactly like, actually) that guy in bibs you are teasing. He works, part time, on a farm after a career as an electrician. He is a fine, intelligent and gentle man with a big, happy family and has politics much more like my own. He is my brother.
I'm going to surmise the reason the two casually dressed gentlemen who delivered the petitions did so, is they were the only ones in the sorry bunch of organizers with the courage to make the drive.
I imagine the stuffed suits and snarly suburbanites were too embarrassed. At least the old farmer and his friend had the balls to face their failure.
All I am saying is…it is never a good idea to judge a book by its cover, or a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes. Even if they are work boots.
Good for you, Duke. I'll think of your post as I dress in my usual bib overalls.
Duke makes a good point about how appearances can deceive. Years ago, I was hiking up a beautiful valley west of Denver with friends. While we were on break, this mean looking mother walked by us, dressed in obvious biker leathers and packing a gun in a holster. We caught up with him in a little while and found him out in a meadow, identifying wild flowers with a guidebook.