President Trump Has Lost the American People

UPDATE: As the Washington Post reports, White House aides are unsure about the timeline presented by President Trump regarding a potential military strike against Iran. It doesn’t help that Trump is now openly contradicting himself:

The precariousness of the moment was compounded by widespread uncertainty about the president’s decision-making process, which he detailed Friday in tweets and statements that drew scrutiny from even his own aides.

Early in the day, the president said he called off the attack at the last minute because it would have killed 150 people in retaliation for the downing of the drone. “We were cocked & loaded to retaliate last night on 3 different sights when I asked, how many will die,” he tweeted.

But administration officials said Trump was told earlier Thursday how many casualties could occur if a strike on Iran was carried out and that he had given the green light that morning to prepare the operation…

Trump’s initial tweets suggested that he had canceled his own order. “10 minutes before the strike I stopped it,” he said. But in an interview with NBC’s Chuck Todd for “Meet the Press,” the president said that he had not given final approval for any strikes and that no planes were in the air. [Pols emphasis]

This pretty well sums up our original point below.

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By the time you woke up this morning, it was quite possible that the United States would have been at war with Iran. As the Washington Post explains:

President Trump ordered an attack on Iran on Thursday in retaliation for the downing of a U.S. surveillance drone in the Strait of Hormuz but called off the strike at the last minute because it would have caused disproportionate casualties among Iranians, he said Friday.

In a series of morning tweets, Trump said he canceled strikes on three Iranian sites minutes before they were to be launched because he was informed of the likely loss of life on the ground.

“We were cocked & loaded to retaliate last night on 3 different sights when I asked, how many will die,” Trump tweeted. “150 people, sir, was the answer from a General. 10 minutes before the strike I stopped it.”

Such a death toll was “not proportionate to shooting down an unmanned drone,” Trump wrote, adding: “I am in no hurry, our Military is rebuilt, new, and ready to go, by far the best in the world. Sanctions are biting & more added last night. Iran can NEVER have Nuclear Weapons, not against the USA, and not against the WORLD!”

Trump’s Friday morning tweets appeared to gloss over the fact that he was the one, as commander in chief, who had ordered the retaliation against Iran in the first place. [Pols emphasis]

Trending hashtags on Twitter on Friday morning in Denver.

You might have expected Americans to be very nervous about a potential conflict with Iran today. Instead, the top trending hashtags in the U.S. on Twitter this morning were #FirstDayofSummer, #NationalSelfieDay, #SummerSolstice, and chatter about two shows on Netflix (#Evangelion and #Shinji).

It would be easy to cast this relative indifference as a product of American consumerism/individualism and a general disinterest in world affairs. Some of that is probably true. But imagine how this news would have been received had it come from literally any other President in the history of the United States.

The difference today is that it is impossible to know if and when President Trump is telling the truth about anything. We’re not arguing here that Trump is lying about calling for – and then cancelling – an airstrike on Iran, but you can’t blame the average American for not taking Trump seriously. We’re not arguing that this cancelled airstrike story is completely fabricated by Trump, but would you really be surprised to find out that was the case? Is it completely out of the realm of possibility that this is all an elaborate story from Trump to make it appear as though he is ready and willing to attack Iran? Of course not. When you display an unprecedented habit of making things up, this is the result.

We are all Joshua Trump

President Trump is a more evolved version of “The Boy Who Cried Wolf.” Trump tells lies like the rest of us breathe. In less than three years, Trump has vomited out more than 10,000 false statements on everything from immigration and Russia to crowd sizes and air quality. In fact, as Greg Sargent writes for the Washington Post, our current state of tensions with Iran are largely based on a big Trumpian lie about President Obama’s nuclear deal with Iran:

As many observers have noted — see this from Evelyn Farkas, or this Post editorial — it is Trump’s decision to pull out of the international nuclear deal negotiated by President Barack Obama that has led to this moment.

The short version: Iran was abiding by the deal, and was being constrained from developing nuclear weapons. But Trump pulled out — then reimposed sanctions to choke the Iranian economy, and has since dictated terms for sanctions relief that appear deliberately unrealistic, cornering Iran into a choice between escalating on its side or submitting entirely to those terms.

If Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George H.W. Bush, or Ronald Reagan sat in the Oval Office and announced that the United States was going to attack Iran, the American public would be somber and frightened. If Donald Trump made that announcement today, a good portion of Americans wouldn’t give it a second thought. Trump can’t fix this by actually attacking Iran; a serial liar can never convince people that he is ever being straight with them.

President Trump has freely given away the assumption of truth in his administration. The response from the American people is more telling than any fact-checking database.

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  1. RepealAndReplace says:

    What have they done with the real President Trump? And couldn't they come up with a more believable fake?

    Rescinding the strike order because of fear that the loss of life would not be proportionate to the downing of the drone? When has any sense of proportionality ever factor into anything this guy does?

    • DavieDavie says:

      Unfortunately, entirely through his own fault *rump will continue to be faced with bad, worse, or the worst choices:

      One trigger point looms: Iran has said it would resume parts of its nuclear program by the middle of next week. That move is a response to Trump’s decision to pull the U.S. out of the nuclear deal, which had offered Iran relief from international sanctions.

      If Iran takes any more military action against the United States or its allies in the Middle East, Trump might feel compelled to react with a military strike of his own. The crisis could spiral from there.

      “Tehran has called his bluff, but they haven’t yet achieved what they want and need — mitigation of economic pressure. So they have every incentive to continue escalating,” said Suzanne Maloney, a Brookings Institution expert on the Islamic Republic.

  2. Diogenesdemar says:

    Proportionality schmoportionality . . .

    . . . no sense in shooting your wad now, when a couple of billion dollars on fireworks for July 4, right before your big entrance, will be yuge!

    Think of the ratings, think of the number of viewers, think of the attention!!!!

    (Two weeks to stock up your freezers and pantries, America.  Just sayin’ . . .)

  3. Genghis says:

    So long as the Dumpatollah keeps packin' 'em in at those white trash Coachellas of his, all is well, at least within the itsy bitsy minds of the true believers.

    • PodestaEmails says:

      Meaning the American people support him and Democrats hate the American people.

      Pretty much!

      • unnamed says:

        If you consider this the American people supporting him, you're even stupider and more delusional than I thought.

        V's parakeet is definitely smarter than you.

      • FGBonfils says:

        nice magical thinking.

      • Conserv. Head Banger says:

        One minor problem with your thinking, Moderatus/PodestaEmails: I'm not a Democrat. I'm a Never-Trump Republican.

        Did you know, M.P.E., that if one adds in the votes cast in 2016 for Gary Johnson and Jill Stein, and not including minor parties, Trump lost the popular vote by almost NINE MILLION votes. That's a ton of people who didn't want Trump as president. If the Dems had nominated a stronger candidate, your boy Trump would still be saying "You're Fired" on Celebrity Apprentice.

        • unnamed says:

          If the Dems had nominated a stronger candidate, your boy Trump would still be saying "You're Fired" on Celebrity Apprentice.

          Not if the ratings tanked.  Then NBC would have said "You're Fired" to Trump.

      • Genghis says:

        Good boy, Moderatus. Be sure to attend Fat Boy's next white trash Coachella. He's sure to be invigorated by the sight of you shaking your big, flobbery man-tits at him.

      • JohnInDenverJohnInDenver says:

        "American people support him" — well, some do. 

        But in a state that voted for him, and a part of the state that gave him some of the biggest margins within that state, Trump and his Organization rented an arena with 25,000 seats.  They hyped the event as a "kick-off" for the 2020 campaign, claimed that 120,000 tickets were distributed, pointed to people in line 36 hours in advance, and had people brought in by bus.  Even so, entry/security lines were gone about 10 minutes before the event was supposed to start, there were empty seats inside, and virtually no one in the "spill over" area outside.  

         

      • spaceman65 says:

        Nah, Poddy, unlike you we actually care about the troops and don't want to see them killed in a ridiculously unnecessary quagmire (which would make Iraq look like Grenada).  You hate the American people because you have no problem with sacrificing so many of them for your delusional view of "freedom"

  4. DaftPunkDaftPunk says:

    Which American people has he lost?

     

     

  5. mamajama55mamajama55 says:

    Apparently, even Ken Buck is worried about our unstable *resident starting a war on a whim.

    My constituent letter from Buck says that he is co-sponsoring a bipartisan War Powers Caucus. The purpose of the caucus is :

    ….objective: to get Members of Congress from both parties in the same room to discuss current international challenges and debate alternative instruments of power to military intervention

    Buck writes:

    “We have a duty to the Constitution and to the American people to declare and oversee our country’s war efforts, but we have allowed this power to atrophy, turning over decision-making to the Executive. I look forward to working with this group of lawmakers to reclaim our legislative authority over war-making activities for the sake of our men and women in uniform.” – Congressman Ken Buck (CO-04)

    Khanna, a co-sponsor, is one of the most liberal Democrats in the House. Barbara Lee has been trying to get Congress to fulfill its Constitutional War Powers role for Years. Two veteran's organizations have signed on.

    I don't often (well, never) applaud Ken Buck for anything, but I think he's doing the right thing this once.

     

    • DavieDavie says:

      *rump is a clueless old fool with no idea what he's doing.  Buck knew that 3 years ago but was willing to gamble the country's future to profit from this deal with the devil.  But now the bill is coming due and he wants an out.

      He’s now scared shitless that *rump could bumble us into WWIII in the blink of an eye.  

      Welcome to our world Congressman Buck.

       

  6. No war with Iran or anyone. Fuckin' war is bullshit.

  7. itlduso says:

    Maybe Iran threatened a retaliatory cyber attack on our infrastructure which they have infiltrated with malware that is ready to be unleashed with a few keystrokes.

  8. CDW says:

    Reuters reports that trump sent a note to the ayatollah ali khamenei via Oman suggesting they meet. The war cry was simply a threat it appears.  Take note: if tariffs aren't an option look for battle cries. 

    This is not to say that the idiot won’t actually attack in the future.

  9. DavieDavie says:

    Trump says he will hold off on planned ICE raids for now

    “At the request of Democrats, I have delayed the Illegal Immigration Removal Process (Deportation) for two weeks to see if the Democrats and Republicans can get together and work out a solution to the Asylum and Loophole problems at the Southern Border,” President Trump tweeted Saturday afternoon.

    The reports that Immigration and Customs Enforcement planned to conduct large-scale enforcement actions prompted pushback from Democratic leaders in some large cities, who condemned the plan and launched efforts to aid residents.

    Translation:  I shot my mouth off prematurely, catching my ICE flunky du jour flatfooted, so nothing will happen for a couple of weeks as I move on to my next policy whiplash charade.

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