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May 30, 2019 07:00 AM UTC

Thursday Open Thread

  • by: Colorado Pols

“There is nothing so pitiful as a young cynic because he has gone from knowing nothing to believing nothing.”

–Maya Angelou


42 thoughts on “Thursday Open Thread

  1. I am 74 years old today.

    And Trump stinks!

    Great God Almighty, 

    Trump stinks.

    All I want for my birthday is an America in which people of good will unite to drive the foul narcissist who now disgraces us back to the foul recesses of Hell from which he came.

    Out, foul Smelly Anne.

    Begone foul Barr, butt kisser to criminals.

    Flee, foul Suckabee, Goebbels wannabe.

    From the rotting carcass of corruption, let a thousand Pelosis spring.

    Let a thousand AOCs blend their splendid energy with the wisdom of a thousand Klobuchars.

    Let a single sword be forged that will smite the very stable stink from this land and bring back the memory of the McCains and Teddy Roosevelts who once led us to glory.

    Out, out, damn stink!

    From purple mountain's majesty,

    To the fertile hemp fields of our plains.

    From our thriving coasts to our beleaguered gulf.

    America rising as one giant to oust the stink.

    Never again the stink!




    1. A big Happy Birthday from Yuma County (where it's hemp-planting season) to my good neighbor from Phillips County.  Viva la Eagles cheeky

    2. Happy birthday, V.  We may not always agree, but you seem to be a good egg, and your comments are appreciated and often quite funny.  Enjoy your day!


  2. Not exonerated
    "… confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so.”

    Crime or crimes were committed, but charges could not be brought.
    " …charging the president with a crime was therefore not an option we could consider."

    The oath of office – US House of Representatives

    "… support and defend the Constitution of the United States …"

    1+1+1 = 3

    Constitution Article I, Section 2, Clause 5

    “The House of Representatives … shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.”

    The House must open an impeachment hearing and subpoena everything.

  3. I am – as regulars here know – exceedingly stupid and quite muddled and confusing.

    And I have been told that it's not just gun lovers that believe passing laws that won't stop the crimes they are aimed at is not good law.

    Can anyone explain to me why
    a) passing laws restricting access to guns is pointless because people who want to commit gun crimes will still get whatever gun they want
    b) passing laws restricting access to abortion is not pointless because women who want to choose to end a pregnancy will still find a way to end that pregnancy.

      1. My Cat sez…"Well, duh."

        I am convinced that the common thread here is the Christian Male Imperative. To the male evangelist both are just tools…

        One to defend the faith…the other to make more little evangelists.

        1. I think the purpose of conflating abortion rights with gun rights is to muddy the waters on both. Negev admitted as much (on another thread) – that he injects gun rights into any abortion debate and abortion into any gun rights debate, just to distract and deflect.

    1. It's because laws are normally enacted to limit existing undesirable behaviors that led to the perceived need for a law, knowing that the behaviors may continue despite the law but could be regulated and minimized through legal penalties, however people will still find a way to obtain guns or drugs or porn since illegality creates a market-driven incentive to supply illegal goods and services, also creating an opportunity for spinmeisters to brand laws as failures – except none of this matters when it comes to abortion.

    2. Not stupid, sometimes confusing. You write in your own gnomic poetic style, which makes the reader work a little harder to get your message sometimes, but I sort of like that.

      To answer your question: there is no logic here, only emotion. "Pro life" people believe that they are saving babies, which makes them feel heroic. They don't look at saving kids after they are born,  because some of those kids are poor and brown, and their Dear Leader tells them that those kids don't matter. 

      "Pro Guns" people feel fear of those same poor and brown people, and surround themselves with guns to protect from the hordes that supposedly want to take their stuff.

      For people who put these messages out, they aren't worried about logical consistency. They only  desire social control, and a compliant right wing social propaganda machine helps them out.


  4. Russia, Russia, Russia! That’s all you heard at the beginning of this Witch Hunt Hoax…And now Russia has disappeared because I had nothing to do with Russia helping me to get elected. It was a crime that didn’t exist. So now the Dems and their partner, the Fake News Media,…..

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 30, 2019

    1. Meanwhile Israel maintains one of the most liberal abortion policies in the developed world – and they're free.  Next up: the world leader in cannabis production.  Any guesses on whether PoddyMouth is going to demand we end our aid to Israel? 

      Israel is banking on cannabis as its next big industry

      “We are going to write the Torah of cannabis,” Landschaft said. “This is really the future.”

  5. Hard evidence of the GOP's slow motion coup to ensure their extremist minority rule and subversion of our democracy is revealed

    Thomas B. Hofeller achieved near-mythic status in the Republican Party as the Michelangelo of gerrymandering, the architect of partisan political maps that cemented the party’s dominance across the country.

    But after he died last summer, his estranged daughter discovered hard drives in her father’s home that revealed something else: Mr. Hofeller had played a crucial role in the Trump administration’s decision to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census.

    Files on those drives showed that he wrote a study in 2015 concluding that adding a citizenship question to the census would allow Republicans to draft even more extreme gerrymandered maps to stymie Democrats. And months after urging President Trump’s transition team to tack the question onto the census, he wrote the key portion of a draft Justice Department letter claiming the question was needed to enforce the 1965 Voting Rights Act — the rationale the administration later used to justify its decision.

    Those documents, cited in a federal court filing Thursday by opponents seeking to block the citizenship question, have emerged only weeks before the Supreme Court is expected to rule on the legality of the citizenship question. Critics say adding the question would deter many immigrants from being counted and shift political power to Republican areas.

  6. Is it just me or was Twitler slightly-more-unhinged this morning than usual?  BTW, I think Grandma Nancy is playing this beautifully.  Keep him talking…

    Straight from the expert on dirty, filthy, disgusting words, ladies and gentlemen:

    Trump on impeachment: 'It's a dirty, filthy, disgusting word'

    “I don't see how they can because they're possibly allowed, although I can't imagine the courts allowing it. I’ve never gone into it,” Trump told reporters of potential impeachment proceedings while leaving the White House on Thursday. “I never thought that would even be possible to be using that word. To me, it's a dirty word — the word impeach. It's a dirty, filthy, disgusting word.”

    1. It's not just you. He did seem slightly more unhinged than usual. And I think Nancy is now timesharing space inside his head with Joe and Hillary.

      1. And so Twitler's next distraction/sideshow to deflect from Mueller news is to threaten Mexico with yet more tariffs to, well, just because he's a bully that needs a distraction from his own bad news.

        President Trump is preparing to threaten Mexico with new tariffs as part of an attempt to force the country to crack down on a surge of Central American migrants seeking asylum in the United States, according to three administration officials who described the “big league” statement Trump teased to reporters Thursday morning.

        Trump is planning to make the announcement Friday but some White House aides are trying to talk him out of it, arguing that such a threat would rattle financial markets and potentially imperil passage of the USMCA trade agreement, these officials said.

            1. Well, good question.

              A Willie Sutton problem deserves a Willie Sutton solution.

              Deutsche Bank, Oleg Deripaksa, Mossak Fonseca, anyone who buys and then sells a worthless Trump property for inflated values to launder money, oh… money launderers.

              You know – guys with all the money

      2. There's a crowd fighting over space inside his rotting head – don't forget the spirit of John McCain tortures him every single day. And of course the "conflicted" Mueller is in there, quietly driving #TrumpsterFire insane. 

  7. Michigan's governor showing how a real leader gets his their people to rise to the challenge.  Where's Polis?

    Whitmer says that every "man, woman and child would have to smoke about $2500 worth of marijuana per year to fix our roads."

    — Nick Manes (@nickrmanes) May 30, 2019

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