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“An intelligent hell would be better than a stupid paradise.”

–Victor Hugo

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  1. RepealAndReplace says:

    Jason Crow is on Morning Joe talking about his ICE transparency bill. But he got the impeachment question. He said he is more interested in getting information.

    Has Perlmutter taken a position yet?

  2. itlduso says:

    I recently realized that both MA and VT have Republican governors.  So, if either Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren become president, we would lose their Senate seat to a Republican appointed by these GOP governors.

    Buh-bye Bernie.

    Buh-bye Elizabeth.

    • PseudonymousPseudonymous says:

      Both Massachusetts and Vermont require the seat to be filled by election, special or general, within about 6 months.

      Hello Bernie.

      Hello Liz.

      • itlduso says:

        Thank you, Pseud.  I stand corrected.

        Serves me right to believe what I heard on CNN.

      • ParkHill says:

        But, I believe that INITIALLY, the Republican governor would make an interim appointment. If they resign immediately after the November election (as Obama did), then the replacement election dates are moved earlier in the year. 

        Still not the best situation, as we need every Democratic Senator we can get or keep.

        Warren is wicked-smart, as they might say in New England. If she isn't selected for President, I can't decide if she should be given a cabinet position, the VP or stay active in the Senate.

        Sanders' strength is moving the Overton Window. If he isn't selected for President, I think his best position would be to remain Senator. I don't see him as VP or in the Cabinet.

        • PseudonymousPseudonymous says:

          In both states, the governor makes an interim appointment prior to the special election.  But the election comes shortly after (within about six months).  Maybe not your preferred situation, but hardly worth deselecting a candidate you want to see as president.

          Edit: I meant to also write: or, for that matter, for a sitting senator to decline a position in someone else’s administration.

  3. DavieDavie says:

    Further proof that manure attracts flies and produces maggots:

    Bank CEO accused of approving millions in loans for Paul Manafort in hopes of landing Trump administration post

    Stephen Calk, a onetime economic adviser to President Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign, was indicted Thursday. Prosecutors said he approved $16 million in loans to Trump's former campaign chairman in exchange for his help seeking a top post in the administration.

    Calk, the founder of mortgage lender Federal Savings Bank of Chicago, illegally used the bank’s resources to curry favor with Manafort, ignoring internal standards and lying to regulators, according to an indictment unsealed Thursday in the Southern District of New York.

  4. Genghis says:

    Douglas McLeod, a GOP legislator from Mississippi and all-around drunken, disgusting pig, came home horny and fucked up on Saturday night, and punched his wife in the face when she took too long getting her clothes off.

    Remember when the NRA and their obedient toadies in the GOP got all bent out of shape awhile back when a proposed amendment to the Violence Against Women Act would have included a provision prohibiting DV and stalking offenders from owning a firearm? Well, Doug McLeod and pieces of shit like him are who they're fighting for. Gotta make sure these folks have a quick and easy way to commit murder the next time the little woman fails to get naked quickly enough.

    Way to go, gun fellators. *slow clap*

  5. Powerful PearPowerful Pear says:

    What???? “An intelligent hell would be better than a stupid paradise”. I’m sure Colorado Pols and Progress Now are experts in creating an “intelligent hell”.

  6. DavieDavie says:

    Will President Needs a Diaper Change renege, as he often does, and veto this?

    Lawmakers agree to approve billions in aid for natural disasters, leaving out border money White House demanded

    Congressional Democrats and Republicans, as well as the White House, have signed off on the deal in principle, said Senate Appropriations Committee Chairman Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala.). The package is expected to cost around $19.1 billion.

  7. DavieDavie says:

    Sage words from Mayor Pete about Cadet Bone Spurs:

    “Any energy that goes his way — including energy that goes his way in the form of criticism — turns into a kind of food,” Buttigieg said. “He just devours it and gets bigger. What we’ve got to learn is how to kind of stiff-arm him.”

    “It’s actually getting harder and harder to find a policy of this administration that most Americans don’t disagree with,” he continued. “Which is exactly, of course, why they need it not to be about policy.”

    He's also pretty good at psychological warfare:

    “I don’t have a problem standing up to somebody who was working on season seven of ‘Celebrity Apprentice’ when I was packing my bags for Afghanistan,” he added. “But at the end of the day, it’s not about him.”

  8. Duke CoxDuke Cox says:

    Hey, Alva…

    I notice we haven't seen a "Get More Smarter" thread in a couple of days.

    Sup?

  9. Powerful PearPowerful Pear says:

    Tulsi Gabbard

    Get to know your next candidate for President. A qualified American patriot.

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/11/06/what-does-tulsi-gabbard-believe

  10. PseudonymousPseudonymous says:

    And so we discover what is both "not what they say it is" and sufficient to believe you coulldn't hold up in a recall.

    Former state Rep. Rochelle Galindo, campaign manager accused of providing alcohol to minors

    olice interviewed one of the women, who said she shared alcohol, marijuana and cigarettes with Galindo during campaign work, and several times had sex with Galindo. In some instances, she reported, she was in a black-out state and could not remember what happened. She told investigators she had not been in a position to consent and felt she had been taken advantage of or sexually assaulted.

    She also described feeling powerless to stop the ongoing sexual contact, worried that she would be pushed out of the campaign. The woman told investigators that Galindo joked that she was her Monica Lewinsky, referring to the 21-year-old White House intern with whom President Bill Clinton had an “inappropriate relationship” from 1995 to 1997.

  11. Powerful PearPowerful Pear says:

    Tulsi Gabbard was on Fox News this AM at about 8:30. An in-depth interview that all Democrats should watch. You will find a strong woman who is not influenced by partisan group think on the issues of the day. If Democrats want any chance to compete against Trump, Gabbard is the logical choice. Or you can stick with the #metookooks, and go down in flames in 2020.

     

    • Duke CoxDuke Cox says:

      Your predeliction for employing violent imagery is in keeping with the vulgar insolence of your champion…

      but…couldn't you just say, " lose the election in 2020"?

      It would likely, and I'm guessing here, ease the edge off of many opinions of you on this site. If there is a brain with an attached conscience in your head, you will eventually come to understand the brutality and moral bankruptcy of the man (using the term loosely) you and your party have chosen to be your leader. 

      "Bring me your hate, resentment, and greed…I will lead you to victory" was the message he carried. Mother Russia saw a chance to punish Clinton and cripple the United States. You helped him.

      Are you really proud of the angry, red-faced, imbecile that your front man has become? What does it take to embarrass the GOP nowadays? 

      When he is finally rejected by Americas' immune system, are you going to take up arms to defend him? Does T***p represent the best of America to you? Will you help him become king?

      You are going to be called upon to answer these questions in real life…I hope you are ready.

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