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October 09, 2009 12:14 PM UTC

Barack Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize

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  • by: Fidel's dirt nap

(Beats the hell out of us, too. – promoted by Colorado Pols)

Pols Update: Here’s the full story on the surprise announcement. Apparently even the White House thought it was a ruse when they first heard the news.

It’s 3:10 AM, I was a little sleepless after returning from a trip to Asia this week.

I turn the tube on, and, holy cow, they just announced President Obama just won the Nobel Peace Prize.

Wow.  How you like them apples ?  Controversial decision ? You bet, with a commander in chief involved in two wars right now.  

A big boost to Obama ? Absolutely.  Will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

Discuss.

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156 thoughts on “Barack Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize”

    1. To let it go and give Al Qaeda a free base from which it can plan another attack in 5-7 years?

      To selectively target Al Qaeda and let local politics (aka the Taliban) go where they will?

      To run a new drug war against opium fields in the hopes that it will dry up funding, ignoring the consequences to the farmers, as we’ve done to other countries in the past?

      To stay around fighting a holding action until we can find a government not so corrupt as to be completely distrusted by the citizens?

      To attempt to capture the loyalty of the average Afghani citizen and turn the country into a stable state, complete with economic redevelopment?

      To establish a client state?

      To run a semi-permanent war, just for the sake of doing so?

      There are many ways to consider our future in Afghanistan.  I would suggest that options 2, 4, and 5 above are currently under consideration and that each has its merit.

      I’ve long ago passed the stage where I blindly considered the best course of peace to inevitably be simply not fighting.

  2. even the White House is embarrassed.

    Maybe the Oslo folks just really want to hear an Obama speech, and figure it’s the quickest way to get him up to Scandanavia.  

      1. I think it is way too early, just a few days into his presidency, where Obama has obviously not had a chance to play his role as President and leader of the free world.

        That being said, by the time he is done with his second term, or career if you will (see Carter) I would bet he will deserve it.  It does speak volumes though about how he is perceived by others, which of course is extremely important.  

        I don’t know if I buy into the notion that they awarded him as Nobel Laureate for Peace in order to have some sort of influence his descisions over the next few years.  That is an interesting one.

        Just my two cents.

        1. Thanks, Fidel.

          But my thought is kind of centered on the difference in the world at this point in 44’s first term vs. 2001.

          By now under cheney, because of gross republican negligence and incompetence we’d been hit, the nation was in panic because the administration was in panic, and things looked pretty bleak. These idiots had us duct taping our houses, thinking every “white powdery substance” was going to kill us, and half a million GI’s were mobilizing for unknown operations. Maybe the rest of the world has noticed the difference.

          Thanks for your post, Fidel. I respect your opinion enormously. And this was just my 2 cents.  

          1. Duct tape and mass hysteria.  Remember when we actually paid attention to the color coded threat level ?

            How soon we forget Rocco !  I respect your opinion as well, and thanks for saying that.

  3. Josh Marshall’s early take on the prize:

    But the unmistakable message of the award is one of the consequences of a period in which the most powerful country in the world, the ‘hyper-power’ as the French have it, became the focus of destabilization and in real if limited ways lawlessness. A harsh judgment, yes. But a dark period. And Obama has begun, if fitfully and very imperfectly to many of his supporters, to steer the ship of state in a different direction. If that seems like a meager accomplishment to many of the usual Washington types it’s a profound reflection of their own enablement of the Bush era and how compromised they are by it, how much they perpetuated the belief that it was ‘normal history’ rather than dark aberration.

    http://www.talkingpointsmemo.c…

    1. Glenn Greenwald’s early take on the prize:

      http://www.salon.com/opinion/g…

      Through no fault of his own, Obama presides over a massive war-making state that spends on its military close to what the rest of the world spends combined.  The U.S. accounts for almost 70% of worldwide arms sales.  We’re currently occupying and waging wars in two separate Muslim countries and making clear we reserve the “right” to attack a third.  Someone who made meaningful changes to those realities would truly be a man of peace.  It’s unreasonable to expect that Obama would magically transform all of this in nine months, and he certainly hasn’t.  Instead, he presides over it and is continuing much of it.  One can reasonably debate how much blame he merits for all of that, but there are simply no meaningful “peace” accomplishment in his record — at least not yet — and there’s plenty of the opposite.  That’s what makes this Prize so painfully and self-evidently ludicrous.

         

    2. Simply steering the enormous ship of state of the U.S. away from the path of destruction it had been headed in could be seen as a major accomplishment all on its own – and certainly through the eyes of other countries…

      But, of course, they didn’t want to say it that way.

    3. [the prize] sets the seal on America’s return to the heart of all the world’s peoples,” Sarkozy wrote.

      “I am convinced that everyone, all over the world, will draw from this an even stronger determination to cooperate with you and with America” on the common objectives of justice, peace and “the planet’s global balance,” he added.

    2. the Nobel Peace Prize lost its legitimacy when they gave it to Martin Luther King.

      From the National Review in 1965, shortly after King won:

      For years now, the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King and his associates have been deliberately undermining the foundations of internal order in this country. With their rabble-rousing demagoguery, they have been cracking the “cake of custom” that holds us together. With their doctrine of “civil disobedience,” they have been teaching hundreds of thousands of Negroes – particularly the adolescents and the children – that it is perfectly alright to break the law and defy constituted authority if you are a Negro-with-a-grievance; in protest against injustice. And they have done more than talk. They have on occasion after occasion, in almost every part of the country, called out their mobs on the streets, promoted “school strikes,” sit-ins, lie-ins, in explicit violation of the law and in explicit defiance of the public authority. They have taught anarchy and chaos by word and deed – and, no doubt, with the best of intentions – and they have found apt pupils everywhere, with intentions not of the best. Sow the wind, and reap the whirlwind.

      Giving it to people like Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mandela was just twisting the knife.

      2. For years months now, the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Glenn Beck and his associates have been deliberately undermining the foundations of internal order in this country. With their rabble-rousing demagoguery, they have been cracking the “cake of custom” that holds us together. With their doctrine of “civil disobedience,” they have been teaching hundreds of thousands of Negroes Teabaggers – particularly the adolescents and the children – that it is perfectly alright to break the law and defy constituted authority if you are a Negro with a grievance cracker-with-a-grievance; in protest against injustice. And they have done more than talk. They have on occasion after occasion, in almost every part of the country, called out their mobs on the streets, promoted -“school strikes,”- secession, violence, sit-ins, lie-ins, in explicit violation of the law and in explicit defiance of the public authority. They have taught anarchy and chaos by word and deed – and, no doubt, with the best of intentions – and they have found apt pupils everywhere, with intentions not of the best. Sow the wind, and reap the whirlwind.

      4. considering the time period.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C…  You could argue, correctly, that in both total numbers and percentages, Democrats were the opposition party to the Civil Rights Act in 1964.

        My point isn’t to rehash the CRA, but you took an ill-advised cheap shot.

        As for twisting the knife, it was Al Gore, another guy who didn’t actually do anything to enhance or create more world peace.

        Mandela had to go to jail for 30 years and end apartheid in SA.  What the Nobel Cmte told the world today is that here in America, we hold Black men to much lower standards.

        1. If you don’t like being accused of racism, don’t be racist. The National Review was the center of mainstream opposition to civil rights at the time, and believe it or not, they were conservative! As were some Democrats and Republicans.

          Your statement that Democrats were the opposition party is so wrong as to be clearly desperate. (The Civil Rights Act passed with huge majorities from both parties and in both houses, as you might know if you were capable of reading the Wikipedia article you incorrectly linked.)

          Sounds like you’re just pissed that another white man got passed over. Sorry Glenn Beck didn’t win this year. If you start now, maybe you could get an online petition ready for next year.

          1. Who are you accusing now of being racist?

            I’m losing track.  

            1. Anyone that opposes any Obama policy.

            2. Anyone who didn’t want the Olympics in Chicago.

            3. Anyone who thinks that maybe Obama didn’t necessarily deserve the Nobel prize yet?

            1. I’d ask if that’s the best you can come up with anymore, but I’m starting to worry it might be true, and I don’t want to embarrass you.

              Racists are people who object to Obama’s policies, actions, or statements based in part on racial resentment. It comes up frequently enough, e.g., in those who say he has everything he has based on affirmative action. Race doesn’t come into this out of nothing. It comes from Beck, Limbaugh, various bloggers, and some commenters here.

              I don’t think you’re a racist, and it puzzles me that you jump in to take it so personally each time I point out when I think someone is.

              1. But you are the one inferring the racist resentment, and sometimes I don’t think you and others really have the goods to do that.

                (I’m not speaking personally on this).

                I’m jumping in because it has become a blanket defense of any criticism of Obama in some circles, and I’d be willing to bet there are many Dems who might agree with me.

                Obama has what he has because he’s smart, and crafty, and very good at being a piece of a political machine, just like any politician at that level in any party is.  He didn’t come from privilege, but he did have some help along the way, and it’s worked out well for him.

                The vast majority of people who oppose his policies are not racists, IMO.  It’s anecdotal, but I’m pretty involved politically, and that’s one of the reasons why: to make the racists fear me as much as they fear minorities.  Someone who agrees with them on policy, but has a genuine reason for doing so and a hatred for their reasoning behind their dogma.

                I have yet to be at a Republican meeting, gathering, or event where I’ve seen overt racism, and I’d confront it if I did.

                Yes, there are racists that hate Obama, but there were racists that hated Bush, too.  Think about it.

                1. then I think we just have different definitions of what it is. You seem to be listening only for blatant stuff (like slurs) while I’m looking more at dogwhistle stuff.

                  1. But I don’t think he’s racist.  I think Limbaugh calls it like he sees it, and sometimes that makes people uncomfortable, but I don’t believe he’s racist, either.

                    Maybe racists like them because they happen to be railing against a President who’s black, but I don’t detect that at the heart of the conversation. (I don’t listen to Beck, BTW.  At all.)

                    TO me, ‘dogwhistle’ just is an excuse to imply racism.  

                    1. Or he caters to them (I think at least half of what Rush does is designed to please his audience), he says many things that are objectively racist.  Don’t make me go trolling for quotes, I’m busy today and I will not use my precious mental breaks to search for Rush quotes.

                      I agree with you on Beck (both parts).

                    2. Rush and what he says and does = ratings.

                      Beck- same but not quite as good.

                      And if you think the dog whistle stuff doesn’t count as racism –  you’re nuts.  I mean, right here in Colorado you gotta go back 80years + to find the KKK openly running the Capitol and even then they often spoke in code about those people and right thinking.

                    3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L…

                      Questioner: But the fact is, isn’t it, that Reagan does get to the Wallace voter and to the racist side of the Wallace voter by doing away with legal services, by cutting down on food stamps…?

                         Atwater: You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can’t say “nigger”-that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states’ rights and all that stuff. You’re getting so abstract now [that] you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites.

                         And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I’m not saying that. But I’m saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me-because obviously sitting around saying, “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Nigger, nigger.”

                      I think you’re in denial if you don’t believe dogwhistle stuff is real.

                    6. Could a black man have been elected President when Atwater said?

                      What he said was awful, BTW.

                    7. The country’s much different than during Atwater’s time, true enough.

                      The point is that the republican party is still every bit that racist. The talk’s just coded better. No more single word epithets.

                      Earlier you posted that you go to red functions and don’t hear racist talk. Hard to believe, as the entire older white conservative base is talking that way, and the young repubs? Wait a minute, there ain’t a whole lot of them anymore. Operation Yellow Elephant has bit hard into that demo.

                      Anyway, it’s simply disingenuous to pretend you don’t know how racist your own base is, LB.

                    8. What’s disingenuous is blaming every criticism on some hidden racial agenda.  It’s now reached ridiculous levels.

                    9. Then please explain why a plurality of reds  claim to believe the President’s not a U.S. citizen.

                      You’re right. It’s bullshit. But it’s bullshit that the President is so hated that “criticism” of him extends to celebrating over losing the Olympics and believing that somehow his winning the Nobel Peace Prize is bad for this nation.

                      If you’re so incensed over your party being accused of large scale racism, then don’t huff and puff at those who see it. Do something to change it. Unless…….

                      Most reds don’t mind being racists. They just don’t want to be called racists.  

                    10. You’re just throwing the word around now.  

                      BTW, as stupid as the birther thing is, it’s not about race, is it?  It’s about the Constitutional requirements for being President.

                      Can you give me an example of “large-scale racism”?

                    11. By large scale racism, I mean a dominant viewpoint that’s shared by a group. That group just happening to be the GOP.

                      2 examples that come to mind quickly are a newsletter by the “Chaffey Community Republican Women” from October and the vile behavior of the participants at Palin rallies last fall. One particular rally, in Strongsville, Ohio, illustrates what the republican party is now courting. Google the utube video. Another repub rally, at the Natl. Western here in Denver, in october, is available on utube as well.  

                      As for the Chaffee Community Republican Women’s newsletter, does “Obama Bucks” come to mind? The illustration of a currency bill replete with watermellon, KFC, ribs, and other disgusting stereotypical props certainly was unabashaedly distributed to its’ membership.

                      A third example, I just thought of it, were the outrageous placards and signs at the fox funded teabaggers rally in D.C. There were few attempts to mask the racial hatred, and some examples were downright Jim Crow-esque.

                      No amount of evidence will ever be enough for someone who simply can’t or won’t admit there’s a problem.

                      I figure that’s the deal with you. But I think you’re trying to walk a thin line, one where you’re trying to defend the racism of your peers without being percieved as part of it. Difficult, if not impossible.

                      You seem reasonable at times. Sometimes admitting there’s a problem is the first step in solving it.

                    12. Widespread is one idiot racist lady and anecdotal slurs in huge crowds?

                      If my peers are racist, I call them on it, regardless of political affiliation.

                      I’d still love to see more examples of “widespread racism” that’s unique to Republicans.

                    13. In order to be truly widespread, every single Republican must wear the KKK hood at all times. If there’s even one Republican who’s not a racist at 7 pm on a Tuesday, then there’s no such thing as Republican racism.

                    14. But a very small minority of Americans are racist.  It’s not a property of a political party.

                      Is Reverend White racist?

                    16. They’re not well-sourced. You of all people should know how I feel about quotes that aren’t sourced.

                      Rush’s “Take the bone out of your nose” is plenty racist enough (and nobody disputes it). His trashing of Donovan McNabb is recent enough that even Republicans don’t pretend he didn’t say it.

                      But OK, if you want to try and claim no Republicans are racist, I guess Rush is where you start. Here, let’s see if I can play the same game.

                      William Jefferson (D-LA) was NOT corrupt, not at all, not by a long shot, since he never actually said, “Give me all your money and I’ll vote however you want.” That quote is actually fake, I just made it up. Therefore he never said anything remotely similar.

                    17. There are some republican racists. There are some democrat racists. There are some American racists.

                      Rush isn’t racist.  

                    18. Your evidence for this is what?

                      Rush Limbaugh was forced to drop his bid for the St. Louis Rams because no black football player would play on a team he owned. They all separately and simultaneously decided this because… the liberal democrat media? It wasn’t anything he actually said to provoke them?

                      Clearly you listen to a lot of Rush, and you feel a need to defend him in order to defend yourself. There are plenty of well-sourced Limbaugh quotes in which he trashes black people specifically.

                      http://www.snopes.com/politics…


                      “Right. So you go into Darfur and you go into South Africa, you get rid of the white government there. You put sanctions on them. You stand behind Nelson Mandela – who was bankrolled by communists for a time, had the support of certain communist leaders. You go to Ethiopia. You do the same thing.”

                      “Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.”

                      “Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?”

                      “Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.”

                      “I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They’re interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there’s a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn’t deserve.”

                      Then there’s “Barack the Magic Negro,” a phrase he didn’t coin but repeated daily for months, after everyone else had gotten over it. He had a song written about it. Are there any black people on Limbaugh’s show? No, but there’s the white guy there to do all his impersonations of black people whenever Limbaugh wants one.

                      And then there’s this recent charming bit of stirring up racial hatred.


                      RUSH:  Hey, look, folks, the white kid on that bus in Belleville, Illinois, he deserved to be beat up.  You don’t know about this story?  Oh, there’s video of this.  The school bus filled with mostly black students beat up a white student a couple of times with all the black students cheering.  Of course the white student on the bus deserved the beating.  He was born a racist.  That’s what Newsweek magazine told us in its most recent cover.  It’s Obama’s America, is it not?  Obama’s America, white kids getting beat up on school buses now.  You put your kids on a school bus, you expect safety but in Obama’s America the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering, “Yay, right on, right on, right on, right on,” and, of course, everybody says the white kid deserved it, he was born a racist, he’s white.  Newsweek magazine told us this.  We know that white students are destroying civility on buses, white students destroying civility in classrooms all over America, white congressmen destroying civility in the House of Representatives.

                      On the other hand, Limbaugh has (to my knowledge) never personally put a noose around a black man’s neck for having sex with a white woman, so I guess you’re right, he’s not really racist.

                    19. Rush’s producer is black.

                      Would you mind sourcing and listing the dates of the quotes?

                    22. … racism comes in many different forms and flavors. That means that it’s possible for him to have a black producer and still be racist.

                    23. Yesterday at a town hall in New Orleans a little boy asked the President why people hate him.

                      The President responded by telling him to take the “criticism” with a grain of salt.

                      The larger point is that it’s come to this

                      Everbody……this includes you….knows what’s going on.

                      In short, when you deny the racism that exists in your immediate circle, the conservative mindset, you are exhibiting continuing willfull dishonesty.

                      The mere idea that you would say you’d “call your peers on it” is laughable, when you’re defending their very statements and actions.

                      We’re now at that sorry crossroad where your credibility’s so damaged that you’d be more respected if you simply admitted your biases and move on from there.

                       

                    24. You’re the one with a credibility issue if you’re going to cry racism at any criticism of the President.

                    25. At least do, I don’t know – 10?  There. 10 idiot racists out of 60 million Republicans would be enough to convince me it’s “widespread”.

          2. Nice impression of Louis Farrakhan on a bad day.  You obviously have a chip on your shoulder.

            Unless you’re insinuating that Obama won just because he’s black, then I don’t think race has anything to do with it.  You brought it up.

            On the other hand, there should be minimum standards for an award of this magnatude.  I’m not pissed about other whites being passed over.  

            Rather, there were 204 other nominees – some of whom likely risked life & limb to actually achieve some modicum of peace in this world.

    4. Right.

      You didn’t even know who Dr. Kissinger is untill limbaugh told you. So don’t try that nonsense.

      You’re the type that tells native Alaskans to move as a solution to climate change.

    5. It was given to Kissinger for negotiating an end to the Vietnam war. His other actions were not relevant to the committee. Not saying I agree with them (I don’t) but that was the logic behind it.

  5. It is an expression of how hated Bush was internationally.

    Is based on feelings not deeds, you bet.  But Bush had so poisoned the waters that all it takes to improve world peace is to speak gently and with respect.

    Obama is still fighting 2 hot wars, and a global anti terror effort (note the September Somali special forces raid that got no press) and Gitmo is still open, but his diplomatic skills and gestures to international niceties has improved the standing of the US 100%.

    Is that world peace. I don’t think so, but the rest of the world does and that is important.  

  6. and dozens of other policies that Republicans only advocated because they pissed off Democrats, I have to say I’m enjoying this one. If only because it’s making so many Republican heads explode, and bringing out the racism and utter hatred they’ve been struggling to cover up for the past ten months.

    1. I do think it is strange Obama won, but at the same time its not like he campaigned for the damn thing. I agree with John McCain that they awarded him based on expectations rather than achievements, which is a fair statement.  I notice how McCain is being a grownup again, along with Huckabee – maybe the rest of the party could take a small cue from them in realizing this is good for the USA.

      So the Nobel committee likes and respects Obama, how can that be bad ?  RNC is already predictably poormouthing all of it, asking about what accomplishments are they basing the award on.  What the fuck are their accomplishments ?

      The pubs’ heads are definitely exploding this morning, after all the gloating last week when Chicago lost the Olympics.  Why do they hate America ?

  7. The deadline for considering someone for their achievments for the prize is February 1st. His highness was only in office for 11 days when the deadline passed.

    What did they use as his accomplishments to award him this prize? His promises? Do they just assume that he will part the seas and promote peace and prosperity to all?

    This is a joke and you all know it. So far he hasn’t done a thing while in office, and by February first, he had done even less.

    Even Saturday Night Live is making fun of the fact that he is all talk and zero substance.

    Admit it, this makes the Nobel Peace Prize look silly.

      1. you here ever owned a Titan Gecko? Very very cool high dollar motorcycles with tons of horsepower…….

        I understand Pols but read some of the comments here. This man is god like to most of the libs here and I for one find it strange that he would be awarded something based on his having been pres for 11 days.

        Pretty weird no matter what side of the spectrum one is on.

        2. But how do you know that the committee didn’t blow off the nomination process and do this on their own? Sort of a rogue jury type of thing.

          I really can’t imagine anyone actually nominating Obama 11 days after inauguration.

          Of course, if he had been nominated and not received the prize, there’d be cheering and high-5s all over Limbaughland.

    3. gecko would snark over this?

      Just figures if you are one of the dirtbags (you are) supporting banning 44 from speaking to school students, and cheering over America losing the 2016 Olympics, this would be your response.

      Grow up asshole.  

      1. are here.

        Where do you get off accusing me of anything? My kids are all grown and moved out years ago asshole. So his highness promoting himself to our kids means little to me. Just more King Hussein crap.

        And I couldn’t care less if the Windy City got the olympics or not. Having grown up in the suburbs of Chicago I can say they sure don’t need it. There is enough Democratic corruption there now and always has been there, to last a lifetime. They don’t need anymore.

        Next time hold you tongue you dumb ass. You make yourself look like a typical liberal self centered dick.

        1. I’ve read you enough to know how thin skinned a snarker you are.

          You can certainly dish it out with your limbaugh/caplis/beck/ standard repub nastiness, but you can’t take it a lick. And that is pretty standard for the non military serving, Vietnam era draft dodging republcan stateside toughguy that you dollars to donuts are.

          You buy into the conserve koolaid hook, line, and sinker. Anything to damage this President is a win for you, even though you can’t see the forest through the trees. Your bullshit is transparent. AND, yeah you have a black Democrat as President. One that won election by 9.5 million votes. Get over it. Your reference to your kids moving out years ago exposes you as a typical  older white repub racist. You vent constantly about straw men, but the truth is you’re an old white fool that can’t stand a black guy running the show.

          Since You’re never gonna grow up, I’ll finish wth a simple fuck you, you miserable little red fraud.

          Child, please! You hold your tongue. I do entertain substantive complaints from people that can discuss politics intelligently. Sadly, you don’t fit that description. Your posts are the proof.

           

                1. call me a racist because that is their blanket answer for anyone who disagrees with their president.

                  Forget all the names and insults being thrown out from their side when Bush was in power……

                  Have I EVER called Obama a racist name? Other than his mother given middle name of Hussein which is pretty friggin weird. Can you imagine if Bush’s middle name was Hussein? Or better yet, Adolf?  

                  1. a racist name, you’re not a racist?

                    Seems thin, though I admit proving a negative is slippery.

                    And yet you imply that his middle name, Hussein, is a racist name.   “EVER called Obama a racist name? Other than his mother given middle name of Hussein …”

                    How is racist to use his middle name?

                    And why do you find it weird, let alone friggin weird. ?

                    Hussein (with dozens of alternate spellings) is a traditional male name in the muslim world.

                    Walker is the surname of George W. Bush’s paternal grandmother’s father.  

                    So Barbara Bush honors her mother in-law’s father  – no big deal.   President Obama’s mother honors her in-laws and it’s friggin weird.

                  2. You rant on and on about the President. Even the things that should bring us together as a people are excuses for you to insult him.

                    No, this type of hate, denial, and vitriol you freaks display is racist AND “friggin’ wierd.

                    gecko, you and limbaugh are now officially on the side of the taliban. Good job, goober!

                    Watch “Right America, feeling wronged”, an HBO special. You and your ilk are featured prominently.

                    You’re not just a racist, you’re the “code word” type that won’t even  admit it. And yeah, beck’s blowin’ the dog whistle ain’t lost on you.  

                    1. I have a hispanic best friend and worked for years with a black dude side by side.

                      I couldn’t care less what color Obama is. His agenda is totally extreme left in my view and very socialistic. If he went unchecked we would turn into another Soviet Union.

                      I disagree with most everything he stands for and if he was a 62 year old white dude, I would dislike him just as much. Hell, I think Carter and Gore are total assholes too, does that make me a rasist?

                      You guys throw the “racist” card at anyone that disagrees with the junior senator. I call bunk.

            2. I understand you may not like it.  But I count myself among those who know, from a long history of sad observations, that racism is alive and well in this country, but that the people promoting is have simply conformed to a higher and higher standard of plausible deniability.  When we look at what’s going on in the country today… not the opposition to policies, but the nasty and inexcusable behavior that’s become the norm for people conveying that opposition — well, it sure looks like racism from where we’re standing.  And some of us are determined not to give racists a free pass on gaining another toe hold in this country by allowing them to hide behind social taboo.  When someone is irrationally hateful and can’t seem to give any rational cause, we should loudly proclaim it to be hate; and in this case, it’s hard to deny that a lot of that hate comes from race.

              Well, that would be the answer anyway, except that Gecko seemed quite unable to resist at least one overt racially motivated slur.  So, there you are.

          2. draft dodger?

            I turned 18 in October of 1974 you dickwad. The war was over. Where were you? Sucking on Mom’s teet? Or were even born yet?

            I like the mentality of the average liberal here. Yell and scream and call names at anyone that doesn’t hold their same fucked up agenda. Pretty fuckin sad.

            You are a true little boy.  

              1. The draft ended in 1973. I was 16 going on 17 then. I did have a number and would have gladly gone if for no other reason than to get away from my old man and to experience life. But I was never called and the war was basically over by the time I turned 18.

                I’m just saying.

              1. I see no snark so thanks…….

                Although at this age who counts.

                Hopefully soon you guys won’t have to deal with me and my comments as I am in the middle of selling my house and relocating to Wisconsin. My wife already has a job out there and as soon as my house sells, if it sells, I’m gone too.

                Will you miss me?

                2. I will miss you a little. Although, like Parsing’s relocation to FL. didn’t make him stop posting here, yours to WI. shouldn’t either.

                  Gecko, there’s a lot I don’t like about you, as you know, and I know the feeling is mutual. But I do believe that you do the best that you can with what you’ve got, and that you are, at heart, a good guy, and that does carry some weight with me.

                  You’re probably not going to see this comment.

                1. I’m reminded of this scene from one of my favorite movies, Glengarry Glen Ross.

                  Ricky Roma: What is this, your farewell speech?

                  Dave Moss: I’m going home.

                  Ricky Roma: Your farewell to the troops?

                  Dave Moss: I’m not going home. I’m going to Wisconsin.

                  Ricky Roma: Have a good trip.

                  Dave Moss: Aw, fuck you! Fuck the lot of you! Fuck you all!

                  [exits]

                  But seriously, we fling a lot of shit on an anonymous blog, sometimes very personal, but despite appearances it doesn’t mean we dislike you. It’s just hard to separate political disagreements from other stuff. I’ll miss you in spite of my asshole comments.

    4. Obama has taken a conciliatory approach to foreign policy by proposin talks with regimes with which the Bush administration refused to negotiate, such as Iran and North Korea. Efforts to improve ties with Syria, Myanmar, Venezuela, and Cuba are also underway. Obama set the tone in his inaugural address, pledging to “extend our hand if you unclench your fist.”

      Obama also cancelled U.S. plans to build a nuclear defense shield in Eastern Europe-long a bone of contention between the United States and Russia-in what many commentators figured to be a quid pro quo for Russia to increase pressure on Iran (though both Russian and U.S. officials deny this). Then, at the 2009 UN General Assembly meetings, Obama won support from Russia for a unified international approach toward Iran, should direct nuclear talks fail.

      Two months into his presidency, Obama signaled plans to reduce the United States’ stockpile of nuclear weapons and fissile materials. At the 2009 UN General Assembly meetings, Obama A) recommitted the U.S. to strengthening the international nonproliferation regime; B) gained international support for a resolution meant to bolster the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty; and C) won support from Russia on efforts to encourage Iran to sideline nuclear development, as mentioned above.

      Do you read?

  8. Congratulations to the President!

    I agree with RedGreen’s bolded portion of Josh Marshall’s comment.

    It rather appears as if the Nobel Committee is asking for positive US leadership internationally by awarding the Nobel Peace Prize to Obama, and is offering a resounding rejection of our former President’s approach to the rest of the world.  

    1. 3. Adolf Hitler was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize by a member of the Swedish parliament in 1939. The nomination was withdrawn shortly after.

      (Sorry, no reference, but it was the top return when I googled “hitler peace prize”.)

  11. President Bill Clinton, that is…  

    BTW- can anyone see BC as President of the World Bank in the near future?

    Barack.  Nice guy but a little short on the tangible accomplishments of peace on his resume.  Helluva an upside, don’t get me wrong- but this award should have gone to Clinton…

  12.    It’s something Obama’s predecessor never did.  In fact, I don’t recall the Decider even being nominated.

      Maybe it’s because when confronted with actual evidence that Iran is advancing its nuclear program (as opposed to bogus evidence of WMDs in Iraq), Obama started putting together an international coalition to impose tough sanctions on Iran.

      What a difference a new administration and nine months makes to the rest of the world.

    1. and not as a joke.

      http://wonkette.com/374421/geo…

      U.S. President George W. Bush has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize for “fighting terrorism and promoting world peace,” according to a BBC News report. Bush has successfully promoted peace and democracy in many terrorist nations, including Iraq and Afghanistan, while making Americans safer and more prosperous at home. Harald Tom Nesvik of Norway’s Party for Progress made the formal nomination for Bush and his since-retired U.K. counterpart, Tony Blair.

    1. Peace is political, and more controversy than this has been caused by giving it to people who were never in office.

      Furthermore, I don’t know if the Peace Prize has ever been meant as a celebration of one’s life. It’s generally for specific achievements, and sometimes just to bring attention to specific political causes.  

  14. From Reuters:

    OSLO, Oct 7 (Reuters) – Wanted – a peace maker or rights activist engaged in a current conflict whose influence would benefit greatly from winning the Nobel Peace Prize.

    That is who Norway’s Nobel Committee will choose for 2009 Peace Prize laureate if, as experts expect, it returns closer to Alfred Nobel’s notion of peace.

    From the article it sounds as though the committee, although it only took nominations through Feb. 11th, evaluated each candidate for their actions up to the vote today.

    And, most importantly, it appears as though they wanted to give a boost to someone in a pivotal position, rather than simply recognizing past accomplishments.

    1. … I sincerely doubt those votes are “officially counted,” even if you enter the names of legitimate and eligible college football players.

  16. He was nominated the day after inauguration. So his nomination was obviously based on accomplishments prior to his inauguration.

    See http://nobelpeaceprize.org/

    The criteria for the nomination and prize –

    … the Peace Prize should be awarded to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses…

    Yeah the language is a little 19th century (of course) but the case was made.

    It appears the committee believed that his election demonstrated high accomplishment to meet the criteria.  

    I agree- like that makes a difference.

    ANd the talking heads are going to howl- not all because they are racist. But because it’s what they do- and they have to tear the man down at every opportunity. For most it’s about ratings- and they should be thanking their bank balance onthe Obama win – and hoopla.

    For some it will be about racism. And plain old “hate’.

    1. Of course, the voting is secret, and the deliberations are secret…

      But I don’t think the committee voted for Obama based on his getting elected.  I think he was nominated based on someone’s like of what they saw at the time, and the vote was conducted with the full knowledge of what he’s done since that time, as well as what he did while getting elected.

      That seems to be the consensus of the tea-leaf readers who watch the Nobel Committee.

  17. Obama was given the prize so we could watch right-wing heads explode.

    (Note: wish I’d thought of this, but I saw it by Granny on the OST, a frequent participant on junctiondailyblog.com)

  18. …Jimmy Carter (ha!), Al Gore (oye…), and Yasser Arafat (wh…what?).

    I think Obama’s winning makes the Nobel Peace Prize officially meaningless.  That, or Ashton Kutcher is hiding in the background, waiting to jump out just when we’re all coming to terms with this announcement.

      1. …this guy has?  Just one will do.  Anything worthy of a Peace Prize?  No?  Didn’t think so.  This award has been a joke for a long time, but now it’s so obvious that more people will realize that.

        2. Not that that makes him Nobel worthy, but it is an accomplishment.

          Why are you asking us?  You should ask the Nobel committee what they based the award on.

          I think carrying Arapahoe County last year is enough- and Flerlage should get one if he does it. But that’s just me.

          1. which I think puts the whole thing into context rather nicely:

            This morning, Michelle and I awoke to some surprising and humbling news. At 6 a.m., we received word that I’d been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009.

            To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who’ve been honored by this prize — men and women who’ve inspired me and inspired the entire world through their courageous pursuit of peace.

            But I also know that throughout history the Nobel Peace Prize has not just been used to honor specific achievement; it’s also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes.

            That is why I’ve said that I will accept this award as a call to action, a call for all nations and all peoples to confront the common challenges of the 21st century. These challenges won’t all be met during my presidency, or even my lifetime. But I know these challenges can be met so long as it’s recognized that they will not be met by one person or one nation alone.

            This award — and the call to action that comes with it — does not belong simply to me or my administration; it belongs to all people around the world who have fought for justice and for peace. And most of all, it belongs to you, the men and women of America, who have dared to hope and have worked so hard to make our world a little better.

            So today we humbly recommit to the important work that we’ve begun together. I’m grateful that you’ve stood with me thus far, and I’m honored to continue our vital work in the years to come.

            Thank you,

            President Barack Obama

    3. Carter should have won it in ’78.  

      The award in 2002 was for tireless, continuous effort at making peace.

      Do not conflate your confusion over the Carter presidential record with his record as a peacemaker.

  22. Here are some links to President Obama’s current achievements:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/…

    And of course, the always on-target commentary of Al Giordano:

    http://narcosphere.narconews.c…

    President Obama has actually made quite a dramatic difference in the world in the last year, he just doesn’t go around bragging about it a lot!  Instead he keeps making the changes that keep making the world, and us, just a little better.

    And yes, he was nominated prior to the deadline on Feb. 1, 2009 but his accomplishments were considered up to the time of the award.

  23. The Prez just won my Fantasy Football League 6 weeks early and is in the running for “best actor comedy or musical” by the Hollywood Foreign Press….aka…the Golden Globes for his press conferences.  It’s good to be the king.

  25. For those of you who live inside this blog, and never go out, there is a world outside the borders of the United States.  It is composed of millions of people for whom America was truly the “shinning city on the hill.”  They have family here or they want to come here or they want America to help them.  

    They don’t want to be afraid of America or disappointed in her, IMHO.  They want America to win, because they identified with us.  

    In ways which I believe the Nobel Peace Prize committee preceived and which most Americans did not see,  Obama has restored the world’s faith in this country.  The proper response to this award from Americans should be “thank you.”  

        1. I ran a Google image search on the image title, and found this 240 x 240 sized one hosted on Flickr. (The others seemed a little too big to be posting here.) Is your blog’s image linked to Flickr?

          I’ve checked out your blog once a few weeks ago, but don’t recall seeing that image during my visit. I wouldn’t mind seeing the context in which you used it. Do you have a link?

          So, in short, I guess the answer is no: I didn’t go directly to your blog and find that famous image there. But if it’s the same image from Flickr, there ya go…

  28. Probably he still didnt do much, but at least he is moving some stones.

    I hope he will continue to do what he promise to America and with no doubt people will re-elect him ^-^

    Go Obama

  29. It was shocking to learn Obama won the Nobel Peace prize.  While Obama may be able to EARN it down the road, he has not been in office long enough to be considered for a such an award.  It was a slap in the face for all the other contenders.  But I can understand that after Bush anyone as President would seem like a Nobel Peace Prize contender!

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