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I would have to hear from Romanoff, which I haven’t
If you had to pick, which one would you go for? Sitting around and waiting and making educated decisions about candidates is sooooo boooooorrrrinnngggg.
🙂
I voted for Andrew who is the one I would have picked in the first place. No anti-Bennet venom intended. Am pretty much expecting Bennet to be my D choice in the general.
cuz I’m a sucker for Yalies.
Wait, what? They both went to Yale? Dang it.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…
I’ll let someone else do the work of reminding you all the times Bennet has supported public option over the past few months–long before word came out that Romanoff was even hinting at running a primary.
But for Markos to say that just proves how little he knows about Bennet, or how he is willing to blatantly lie to bash someone he sees as a “conservadem”.
All this does is remind me of why I do not like Markos Moulitsas.
but i think he is calling into question the perception created by the sudden release of the “Bennet supports the public option” video three days after the Romanoff primary story was leaked.
Similar to what the Denver Post editorial said about Bennet.
Actually, i am quite happy he has taken the lead on healthcare – now Romanoff has to match that.
we win in that case.
And in doing so, he’s showing his ignorance. But I’m glad you agree that it’s completely misleading.
the most important:
On that same note, that is why I am also rooting for Joe Sestak.
Wade,
rsb had a great point here:
Since you don’t have answer to my question pertaining to what you found “misleading” in Markos’ post, I’m guessing you realized that rsb’s characterization applies even more accurately to the deliberately misleading BS you’ve been trying to peddle lately:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/…
If you think Markos was being misleading, then what do you think it is you’ve been doing?
I keep forgetting, Wade. Please do remind me of how hard he’s been working for the last half year to advocate on behalf of health care reform, like Darcy Burner has been doing.
Oh wait. That’s right. He hasn’t.
this move gives us the opportunity for the 2 candidates to try match each other on positions.
Of all of them Climate Change legislation is the one I am waiting to hear about – though I realize from what I have been reading that even though it is going to be the biggest crisis we will face in this century, it rates really low on people’s priorities.
Because, you see, that is my priority right now as it is the millions of other Americans that cannot get or afford insurance. Where does he stand?
I asked you a question. Please don’t dodge it. Where does he stand? And where has he been for the last half year?
I don’t know where he stands.
However, he has no chance of winning the primary if he doesn’t support the Public Option.
The point is, Bennet’s video release was such a big deal, that Kossacks yesterday were celebrating it as a major ‘breakthrough’ on the PO.
Breaking! Bennet goes ON RECORD for a PO, with Video. Sen. Mark Udall is in too!
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…
This diary was on the rec list all day. There was even fundraising going on for Bennet in the comments.
In short, Bennet has become a leader on this issue – and I believe as do many others that this is due to the news of the primary.
The key is we get the public option.
Romanoff has to support it as well.
we win.
On to the next issue.
Isn’t that going to be old news, one way or the other, a year from now? That’s a serious question.
Bennet was already there. Just because Daily Kos noticed only after Romanoff made overtures at running doesn’t mean one caused the other. If that’s what they really believe, it’s a kind of post hoc ergo proctor hoc fallacy (I say kind of, because Bennet was already supporting PO long before Romanoff was floating his name, so not really after the fact.)
That’s why it’s important to get your local news from places like Pols, rather than national sites with people who follow the entire country.
parallel, no coincidence between the news of the primary and the release of the video?
I am not arguing he has been talking about supporting PO in this diary, just why the sudden video and blog postings from his campaign?
But it was, after all, video from various speeches he’s given clarifying his support for PO which were given long before Romanoff was a concern to his campaign.
I think it’s more likely that the campaign planned on releasing this before the Romanoff story broke, and it was in response to many people who have been calling and asking the Senator for be more clear on his support for PO.
that you then had to go and write this piece of shit to try and undermine the kudos Bennet was getting for his position. Classy.
As usual, Wade’s original comment is short on details and sparse on the truth. Then again, what’s new? Which is why he continues to have credibility issues at this blog.
that you are going to take the mutual bullshitting between Markos and Sirota as some sort of validation of your “Let’s Make Shit Up!” theory of political advocacy.
it makes you age.
it makes you age.
You and Romanoff are threatening a primary from the left because Sen. Bennet isn’t liberal enough. You’re using Health Care Reform as the hot button issue, and the effect is: the left is forcing Bennet to reiterate his support for a public option. And then you run around telling anyone who’ll listen that you’ve forced Bennet (who has been on the record supporting a public option for months) to take the “liberal” position (supporing a public option) to fend off a primary from the left.
Are you stupid?
You’re taking a mainstream position (70-80% support a public option according to recent polls), and helping the right-wing crazies paint it as an extreme left-wing, socialist, red commie position.
You mind letting the big kids do the PR on this from now on?
if you think my blogging has forced Bennet to do anything – do you really think Bennet’s team read my posts and decide to post a video?
Really?
or is it more likely that Bennet has internal polling that was prepared in advance in case he got a primary, and the plan was to release that video if it happened. logical.
Ed Schultz summed it up much better – Bennet’s move with his video yesterday and post on Huffpo today supporting PO is probably due to the statement by the Broomfield Democratic party that they would not give any money or support to any candidate that did not go on record for supporting PO.
as for your “big kids” statement
you realize your blogging right?
Don’t you think Bennet’s campaign put out that video in order to dispel the willful disinformation floating around, thanks in part to people who are happy to spread disinformation?
In your DailyKos post yesterday, you tried to argue that Bennet’s position on health care has been shaped by a primary challenge. But it hasn’t been–it was well developed and articulated months before Friday’s leak about Andrew. My concern is that not only are you totally full of crap, you are also utterly oblivious of it as well. Either way, you are making things up.
(And please don’t hypothesize about mythical polls in trying to defend your baseless claims.)
Bennet was on Huffington Post on August 10th supporting a public option. Ed Schultz, Andrew Romanoff and letters from Broomfield came after that. Are you just that clueless?
Was that a rhetorical question. If not, I bet you I know the answer. 🙂
Finding it interesting, this thought that because someone has not been on the ballot they somehow are less qualified to hold office. Do we want a good campaigner or a good decision-maker? Plenty of amateur and professional “expert” campaigners out there could get through 6-12 months of extensive vote seeking. Doesn’t mean they’re the ones we might want making 72 months worth of decisions about major issues on our behalf.
I know both of these guys, Andrew longer than Michael, and have worked with both of them. While I admire Andrew, my choice is Michael. Significant private sector experience, administrative and policy ability demonstrated by work with the mayor of one of the nation’s biggest cities, and his work on the issue that drives everything else (education) and impact of his out of box thinking on a diverse big city district. When both are in the same room, Andrew might be knowledgeable, the most glib and the one you’d rather have a beer with. Michael would be the smartest in any room he’s in and absolutely the kind of person I’d want making important decisions on my behalf.
Have also been on a ballot or two myself and would say campaigning is a ways down the list of the skills we ought to be focused on. That’s expertise that can be bought and/or learned.
But if Romanoff pulls into the lead I will change my opinion 🙂
{the vote shifted}
Time to activate the sockpuppets and start freeping the poll.
Even more meaningless than the Jefferson-Jackson/Lincoln dinner straw polls are the oft-rigged internet straw polls!
But still, it’s fun. It’s like a student council election!
It is my belief that a straw poll over a year out from the general election will result in a higher propensity for party infighting.
Many do not see the value in a poll that has no science or accepted methodology and where the votes are conducted online and one can vote many times based on the number of screen names they have.
This straw poll provides discourse amongst ourselves, which is why this site has not done this with its members in the past.
What was I thinking?
He knows how to be hardline with both unions and business, to get things done.
He can’t handle his own employees, many of whom would support him for Governor just to get rid of him.
One article on pulling the ripcord — dissent with the Gov & alignment with Benson — now we’re on “radio silence”.
I assume the usual Saturday morning meet-up is taking a break for Labor Day….
Same reason as BlueCat; I wanted Romanoff to be appointed in the first place. However, once my vote will actually COUNT, I don’t know that I’ll vote for him. Bennet hasn’t pissed me off, and when I heard (several weeks ago) that he was supporting the public option for health care, I began to become a fan.
On the other hand, I would kill or at least maim to see a Ritter-Skaggs primary!
…Romanoff stands on the public option–and I think it’s quite clear that he is for it, and probably single-payer to take it a step further–but it really doesn’t matter in the grand scheme. The last chance for Democrats to pass the public option for quite some time (many years) is NOW. If they don’t vote on something this year, it wont happen.
Let’s have a poll to pick who drops out first:
Andrew Romanoff or Scott “Scooter” McInnis?
Neither has the stomach or the heart for this.
Out before she’s in.
Except Bouncing Bob Beauprez beat her to that distinction.
If he doesn’t get in then it shows the 100 active Dems at this site have no influence.
If he does get in, Pols can claim some fame. We all know Romo doesn’t have “what happened on Pols” in his top 10 decision factors.
Did he tell you that?
Markos really doesn’t know anything about Michael Bennet. If he did, he would know that Michael has been supporting Public Option for quite some time. Long before the possibility of a primary. Go to the website and learn where he stands – http://www.bennetforcolorado.com. I strongly support Michael Bennet’s candidacy!!
I tend to support an incumbent unless they give me strong reason not to….and so far Bennett hasn’t.
BTW, all of this talk of him being late to the party on the Public Option is a bunch of crap. He was on record several weeks ago supporting the public option. Here is an article he did on Huffingtonpost back on August 10.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…
He was on the record way back support both single payer and public option. This is a totally made up story.
Maybe Romanoff did get screwed, as some feel, but that’s no reason to vote for him now. But maybe the primary campaign will draw some real contrasts between the two.
If that’s what this is about, Ed Perlmutter got screwed even harder.
He was in the legislature when Romanoff was barely out of short pants, and he won those elections in a traditionally Republican district, not a safe Democratic district. He can campaign like crazy, he knows his way around Washington, and he actually won the election he was running in 2008.
Let’s bring a real progressive into the race and make it a real debate.
Or we could admit that getting passed over by Bill Ritter isn’t the best rationale to put a purple Senate seat at more risk than it already is.
so it is written, so it has been done
if you ask me.
…the salt never seems to run out
would I support Romanoff? If Bennet votes for health insurance reform, votes for energy reform, votes for wall street reform and supports labor… what good is Romanoff?
that Romanoff was not appointed to replace Salazar. However, we suck it up and soldier on. Bennet has been in Pueblo half a dozen times, most recently doing a town hall on healthcare at the university prior to the legislative bbq.
Until his town hall at Jorge’s, the video of which Pols so kindly posted, I was unimpressed, but with that appearance he began to win me over. He handled the tea baggers with finesse and gave substantive answers to our concerns.
I went to Bennet’s campaign site to see which issues he is addressing. It turns out he has statements on all of Go Blue’s issues except labor. He has been mostly silent on this important part of our population. He has said he doesn’t know enough about EFCA to have an opinion. Learn Michael, learn.
Andrew was in town a week ago Sunday for the Steelworkers picnic. He didn’t speak. He circulated and smoozed. He has even started hugging people. Hugging is very common here. (As an aside, I wondered how the powers-that-be in DC would deal with Ken Salazar’s habit of kissing people, but it appears that he has kicked the habit.)
Perhaps his dealings with teachers unions, have made Bennet cautious about labor issues. Maybe not. I would prefer not to have a Dem Senate primary, but if that is what it takes to get Bennet to take stronger stands on issues, then so be it. If I don’t like what I hear from him, then Andrew is my candidate.
Bennet’s candidacy is dead. I assume he will turn in his key to the Senate washroom and pull up stakes from the Platte River. Such a short, stormy career…….
that he learned a lesson from his time in the Senate. And thank the stars Colorado was treated to such a healthy debate.
David Sirota has 45 sock puppets.
I guess.
Bennet supported Obama, Romanoff supported Hillary. It would make sense that Obama supporter Ritter would chose Bennet for the Senate seat, figuring that Obama’s popularity would continue, Bennet would help the Obama agenda, and help Colorado.
I think that none of the above has proven true. Although, Colorado has gotten national attention for green energy potential. That was Ritter and not Bennet.
I think that Romanoff’s entrance into the Senate race is a clear indication that Obama has lost steam.
For my part, I welcome the primary fight. It is time that Bennet was held accountable for the nightmare he created for the kids in the old Manual High School, and the slick PR campaign created by his back east friends that somehow he was a good superintendent for DPS. I would rather that democrats did it than republicans.
Democrats need to get over the Nichos/Strictland disaster and remember the Miles/Salazar triumph.
I think the public option, if not all of health care reform, is dead. Bennet came out for the public option when it looked like it was safe to vote for the public option because it was going to lose anyway in the Senate.
When I interviewed him back in August & publically at the Boulder Dem Women’s dinner in August he unequivicably stated he would vote for single payer – which is an even more progressive approach.
Don’t let the fact that you think he sucked at DPS color what he said when on health care.
Single player is not even in any of the bills; so for Bennet to say he would vote for single payer doesn’t commit him to anything. The FU question would have been: Will you introduce an amendment to any Senate bill to include single payer?
Now, if he told you in your interviewers that he would support the public option, then I do stand corrected. But if he did not make that commitment on public option, but did say he would support single payer, then I say he is bullshitting you.
Our guy is smoke and mirrors, supporting something which does not exit or confusing the issue’ i.e. we have to destroy Manual HS in order to save it….and forgetting to mention the horrible consequences for the kids who were already there, which was the real issue.
He did an article on Huffingtonpost back on August 10 stating his support for the public option.
Look, if you don’t support the guy, then fine, don’t support him. But don’t make up lies to substantiate your reasons for not supporting him.
As Democrats we don’t need to be doing that to each other….that is what we have Republicans for.
I did not hear Bennet was supporting the public option until a few days ago. I posted to David’s comment that I could stand corrected, but I also pointed out that supporting the single payer was not the same thing as supporting the public option.
I don’t read every website. Could you post a link to the Huffinton post article and I will stand corrected, again. My recollection is that Bennet’s support of public option was not widely known or circulated. Did he issue a press release?
not making them up, but you are spreading falsehoods (not unlike the falsehood that the proposed health care reform will include “death panels”) which left unanswered will develop a life of their own.
Here (again) is the link:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…
This is also a fine example of why I don’t particularly care for Democratic Party primaries. We need to keep our powder dry for the real enemy…Republicans.
This is a delayed response because I am old and my MAC takes days to boot up and download. Let me be clear:
I said that Bennet was late to support the public option. I call August late in this health care debate. Thank you for the link to the Huffington Post, AV, where Bennet on August 8, said he supported a “public insurance plan.”
I said that Bennet did not support a public option plan until it was safe to vote for it, because it looked like it was dead, anyway, in the Senate. “Back in August”..the 16th on CNN, Sebelius said of the public option, “not the essential element of reform.” More telling was Senator Kent Conrad (D) of North Dakota on Fox News, that same weekend: “The fact of the matter is that there are not enough votes in the United States Senate for a public option. There never have been.” I call this taking a stand in August for a public plan when it became clear that it was safe, because the plan was not going anywhere. You are free to disagree with my assessment, but I don’t think it is free to call me a liar.
I don’t like Bennet. I think he always leaves himself wiggle room. And, that opinion is based on his performance at DPS. I have a perfect right to view his current statements through the lens of how he handled public pronouncement at DPS. I support Romanoff.
Now, I am not bullshitting, or spreading falsehoods akin to the death panels (And, by the way, I really feel that was an grossly unfair comparison.) I believe that Bennet, who has never had a election campaign would benefit from a Democratic primary before he goes up against Wadhams, et, al…if indeed he beats Romanoff.
And I also think a primary will be really good for Bennet. (I’m actually starting to worry that Romanoff will see how bad his odds are and not run.) I think a primary will make Bennet a better Senator.