Monday Open Thread

“Man’s capacity for justice makes democracy possible, but man’s inclination to injustice makes democracy necessary.”

–Reinhold Niebuhr

19 Community Comments, Facebook Comments

  1. mamajama55 says:

    Manafort indicted, surrenders to FBI, along with business partner Rick Gates.

    The Wall St Journal comments, are revealing of the spin Trumpers are trying to get going: Tax fraud? Why not the IRS? This is a conspiracy to make the libs happy, but Bill, but Hillary, this isn’t really a big deal, $500 million is nothing, etc.

  2. Duke Cox says:

    Great quote this morning, Alva.

    I just laid in a case of popcorn….this should be fun. It's gonna be like lifting off the floor of the corn crib…the rats will be scurrying in every direction.

    Oh, to be a fly on the wall at the White House….

  3. RepealAndReplace says:

    What needs to be done now is Eric Schneiderman, the NY State Attorney General, needs to open his own tax evasion case against Manafort. He needs to bring parallel state charges because all Mueller's work will go down the drain if and when Donnie starts issuing pardons.

    Prez cannot pardon someone for a state offense. And I cannot imagine Andrew Cuomo wanting to shower any clemency on this guy.

    Instead of going to the low security prison in Allenwood, PA (Club Fed), perhaps he could get a trip to Attica!

  4. MichaelBowman says:

    Just calm down, everyone…Faux has spoken! 

  5. Pseudonymous says:

    If what you're interested in is links to the campaign, this might be more important (for now) than Manafort/Gates.

    Ex-Trump campaign adviser pleads guilty to making false statement

    A former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser has pleaded guilty to making a false statement to the FBI after he lied about his interactions with foreign officials close to the Russian government.

    In court records unsealed on Monday, the FBI said George Papadopoulos "falsely described his interactions with a certain foreign contact who discussed 'dirt' related to emails" concerning Hillary Clinton.

    • RepealAndReplace says:

      How they've handled it in the past…..

      I'm old enough to remember how the Watergate grand jury – uncertain whether it could indict a sitting president – named Nixon as an unindicted co-conspirator.

      By 1998, it was still uncertain whether a president could be charged with a crime so Ken Starr put everything he had into a report which was $29 million piece of soft-core porn, published it on line, and sent it over the Newt Gingrich for an impeachment vote.

  6. Pseudonymous says:

    Oooh, wonder if someone just got a target letter.  It's not always the dominoes that you expect to that fall.

    Tony Podesta stepping down from lobbying giant amid Mueller probe

  7. mamajama55 says:

    Daily quote trivia: Reinhold Niebuhr, who wrote today's quote, is the alternate Twitter ID of former FBI director James Comey. Comey also used this quote today. Maybe Pols knew that?


  8. Pseudonymous says:

    Working as intended.  I mean, come on, it's only 12,600 gallons!

    Oil crews stay on scene of drilling mud spill near Berthoud

    Crews remained on scene Monday at an abandoned oil well that spilled about 300 barrels of drilling mud and small amounts of oil along a private driveway on Colo. 60 southeast of Loveland.


    The well, believed to have been drilled in the 1920s or 1930s, was capped and abandoned in 1984. Because there is no current operator for the "orphaned" well, the state oil and gas commission will be responsible for again plugging the well, noted Todd Hartman, spokesman for the Colorado Department of Natural Resources. [Emphasis mine]

  9. Diogenesdemar says:

    FM:  Donald NostraTrumpus

    RE:  Papadopoulos 

    SUBJ:  Stop Me If You’ve Heard This One Before

    “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,”

    “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”


    “The adviser, George Papadopoulos, has pleaded guilty to lying to the F.B.I. about that conversation. The plea represents the most explicit evidence that the Trump campaign was aware that the Russian government was trying to help Mr. Trump and that the campaign was eager to accept that help.

    As part of that effort, the Russian government hacked Democratic accounts and released a trove of embarrassing emails related to Mrs. Clinton’s campaign. The Trump campaign has repeatedly denied any inside knowledge about that.”

    Trump Campaign Adviser Met With Russian to Discuss ‘Dirt’ on Clinton

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