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Could Republicans Actually Hold the SOS Office?

by: Colorado Pols

Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 10:45:29 AM MDT


SATURDAY UPDATE: Coffman isn't interested. As the Rocky Mountain News reports:

Some Colorado Republicans want Secretary of State Mike Coffman to step down in the next two weeks so another Republican can run for that office this November.

Their strategy is to stop Democrats from controlling the office for the next two years.

But Coffman, the Republican candidate in the 6th Congressional District race, said Friday that he will stay in office through the November election or beyond...

Coffman's decision to run for Congress prompted opposition by local Republicans who don't want the Secretary of State's Office, which has long been occupied by Republicans, to go to a Democrat.

Some Republicans want Coffman to step down before Aug. 28. That would prompt a special election in November between a Republican candidate and the Democratic appointee named by Gov. Bill Ritter to run the office until then.

Obviously, the possibility of retaining the SoS in November beats the certainty of losing it--Coffman's swift resignation would be the right thing to do if his interest was in party over principle. But that's kind of the point, Coffman is the moral and strategic victor now over the would-be kingmakers who tried to stop his run for Congress. He doesn't have to quit on a schedule that accommodates them, and we seriously doubt he will--it would be a violation of his sacred Marine honor or something. He intends to finish the job of managing the 2008 elections and then go to Congress in January. If you can also interpret that as a fat middle finger directed at the party insiders who lined up to endorse his vastly inferior pipsqueak of an opponent, we expect Coffman is cool with your interpretation.

In fact, we would bet money that the lavishing of praise on GOP chairman Dick Wadhams seen in yesterday's appeal for Coffman to resign (original post below) only increased Coffman's resolve to tell Wadhams which orifice he can shove his proxy-delivered "suggestions" up.

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We've gotten some strange and interesting emails in our time, but this one may take the cake.

The email below appears to have come from Dan Kopelman, the same Dan Kopelman who got Secretary of State Mike Coffman into trouble for a variety of reasons.

The email below was forwarded to us, and it seems to outline a plan for how Republicans can hold onto the SOS office despite Coffman's pending resignation once he is formally elected to congress in CD-6 in November. According to the email, Republicans could convene a vacancy committee before August 28 and...well, we don't really follow exactly, so we'll leave it up to the bigger brains in the room to figure this out.

But what makes this email a double-doozy is the weird deification of GOP Party Czar Dick Wadhams. Click below for the email...

Colorado Pols :: Could Republicans Actually Hold the SOS Office?
From: dkopelman@technologist.com [mailto:dkopelman@technologist.com]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 3:11 AM
To: XXXXXXX
Subject: XXXXX, A Republican can run for Secretary of State this November if chosen by August 28th!

"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do
nothing." -- Edmund Burke

Happily, it is possible to recruit a Republican candidate to replace Secretary of State Mike Coffman, but there is a catch. The current, willing Republican candidate is Arapahoe County Clerk Nancy Doty. I will tell you about the catch in a moment.

A MEETING

I met this evening with our hard-working, heroic, thoughtful State Party Chairman, Dick Wadhams [Pols emphasis], who personally told me "he never backs down" but expressed grave concerns about the possibility of trouble in the event of an extremely close race and how it might turn out if Mike Coffman was not at the helm of the SOS office.

The experience I gained from working in the SOS office allowed me to explain to the Chairman, his concerns were based on rules that were changed after the 2000 elections to prevent Florida-like situations. In 2006, there were issues with long lines and slow voting machines, these were not related to the actual counting of votes. While many were up late on election day, waiting for the results, accuracy was not an issue.

Additionally, the most recent election rules were posted on July 11 2008 and can be found at http://www.elections.colorado.... making it nearly impossible for any last minute changes without some unexpected natural disaster.

The point is, the system worked in 2006, it worked last week and will work again on November 4th.

THE CATCH

It is possible to hold on to the SOS office, but it will take more effort than what they were planning this year.

The financial and volunteer resources of the State Party are committed to a Presidential and Senate race so there was no plan to take on yet another statewide race. XXXX, this is where you come in. [Pols emphasis]

THE TWO OPTIONS:

1) The first, easiest option is the Edmund Burke version, good men can do nothing. The result will be Secretary Coffman is elected to fill the shoes of Congressman Tancredo. When Congressman Elect Coffman resigns as SOS, after the November election, Governor Ritter appoints his favorite Democrat as SOS to make the rules for the next two years.

If there is some kind of problem on November 4, (like Florida) the Attorney General's Office will be required to review the case based on the rules established July 11th. Congressman Elect Coffman will be able to relay the findings to the public. No new rules are allowed to be made.

2) The second option requires a little more effort (this would apply to both the Republicans and the Democrats). Secretary Coffman would need to resign in the next few days. The State Party needs to have a Central Committee "call" to nominate and elect a candidate. Then the candidate would be included on the Colorado Ballot.

Make no mistake, when Secretary Coffman resigns, this will result in Governor Ritter appointing someone to the SOS office prior to the November election (that person, or someone else must run for office too).

If there is some kind of problem (like Florida) the Attorney General's Office will be required to review the case based on the rules established July 11th. The Ritter appointee will be able to relay the findings to the public. No new rules are allowed to be made.

Sound familiar? The same rules apply from July 11, 2008 until the end of the election. That is the law.[Pols emphasis]

The major difference is the Ritter appointee gets up to two years with a Democratic Governor and Legislature to change the rules, or the Ritter appointee gets to watch an election happen based on rules established under the thoughtful guidance of Secretary Coffman. and do nothing else.

THE PLAN

As I said, XXXXX, the financial and volunteer resources of the State Party are committed to a Presidential and Senate race so there was no plan to take on yet another statewide race.

According to Political Director/Legal Council Ryan Call, "...the Party could nominate a GOP candidate to the general election ballot, if the Party was able to convene the vacancy committee to designate a candidate on or before August 28 (68 days before the general election).."

How can you make a difference.

Contact Political Director, Ryan Call (303) 758-3333 x108 (ryan@cologop.org) or Chairman Dick Wadhams (720) 377-1600 (dickwadhams@cologop.org) at the state party headquarters and pledge your support to keep the Secretary of State office in Republican hands.

There is not a lot of time, but we have the guy who removed the top Democrat challengers at the helm and he needs your input now. A pledge of support, exclusively for the keeping the Colorado Secretary of State in Republican hands may make a difference.

This may be our only chance to balance the continued takeover of Colorado by well funded Democrats and may make a difference by dividing their resources as they too had no plans to mount a statewide campaign for the SOS office.

THE GOOD MAN

Dick Wadhams is a king maker, he is the Colorado State GOPs crown jewel, he has done the impossible for Republicans across the country, but this was so unexpected that he now needs your commitment and encouragement to believe it can and should be done.[Pols emphasis - THIS was unexpected???]

Thank you for your long time support of Republican candidates, together we can prevail and help a good man do something!

Call (303) 758-3333 now, leave a message, do this for the Republican Party, the State and the protection of your right to vote.

Sincerely,
Dan

P.S. - This email is being sent to my personal newsletter list and was NOT authorized by any candidate, committee or chairman. This is not a solicitation for money on behalf of anyone.

P.P.S. - Please pass on the information to others in Colorado who you believe might be interested in helping.

P.P.P.S. - More Colorado GOP contacts: www.cologop.org/ContactUs.aspx

Legal types will want to read more:
------------------- COLORADO ELECTION LAW "TITLE 1"

(7) Except as otherwise provided in subsection (7.3) of this section, any vacancy in a statewide or county office, in the office of district attorney, or in the office of a state senator occurring during a term of office shall be filled at the next general election with nomination or designation by the political party as follows:

(a) If the vacancy occurs prior to the political party assembly, the designated election official shall notify the chairperson of each major political party that the office will be on the ballot for the next primary election, and candidates for the office shall be designated as provided in section 1-4-601 or 1-4-603.

(b) If the vacancy occurs after the political party assembly and no later than sixty-eight days before the primary election, the designated election official shall add the office to the notice of election and notify the chairperson of each major political party that the office will be on the ballot for the next primary election. Candidates for the office shall be designated as provided in section 1-4-603 or by the respective party central committee vacancy committee for the state, county, judicial district, or state senate district.

(c) If the vacancy occurs during the sixty-seven days before the primary election or after the primary election and no later than sixty-eight days before the general election, the designated election official shall add the office to the notice of election for the general election. Nominations for the office shall be made by the respective party central committee vacancy committee for the state, county, judicial district, or state senate district or as provided in section 1-4-802 for the nomination of unaffiliated candidates.

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ll SPEClAL ELECTlONS AND VACANClES
Section
2327 Proceedings
2332 When officer qualify Elected
2328 Special elections Canvass and appointed hold different
2329 Vacancies in general assembly terms Governor issue writs of
2333 Vacancies in county office election County commissioners ap
2330 Vacancy in congress point
2331 Vacancies in state and county

2331 Vacancies How filled All vacancies in any state or county office and in the supreme or district courts unless otherwise provided for by law shall be filled by appointment by the governor until the next general election after such vacancy occurs when such vacancy shall be filled by election and the district judge shall fill all vacancies in the office of district attorney in his district by appointment until the next general election

GS 1159 GL 935 This section is referred to in People vs Wright 6 Colo 92 95
96 144 ELECTION LAWS

The Election Laws of the State of Colorado Annotated Primary and General Amended to June 1st, 1921, and Governing Elections of 1921 and 1922 By Colorado, Colorado, Colorado Dept. of State, Dept. of State, Colorado Attorney-General's Office, Attorney-General's Office

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gosh, SoS matters in a close race?
who personally told me "he never backs down" but expressed grave concerns about the possibility of trouble in the event of an extremely close race and how it might turn out if Mike Coffman was not at the helm of the SOS office.

You mean the SoS office isn't a bastion of integrity where the right thing will always prevail?  You mean it's a political office powerful enough to influence close races and push them toward whichever party is in power?

I love democracy.  

In fact, I just registered
www.veryliberalagitatedpissedoffpeoplewithnoorganization.com
-Laughing Boy


Did Koppelman ever pay a prices for his illegal activities?
Prolly not.....

I love the presumption that they are Burke's "good men." Gag.

"Politics determines who has the power, not who has the truth." Paul Krugman, 9/2010


I loved this

Dick Wadhams is a king maker, he is the Colorado State GOPs crown jewel, he has done the impossible for Republicans across the country...

The impossible.  You mean, like losing a Senate race by a man who was so popular he was considered a leading GOP presidential candidate?  Yeah, I suppose Wadhams has done the impossible after all!

"Apple denies that, based on their common meaning, the words 'app store' together denote a store for apps"
-- Legal filing by Apple Computer


If Whadams is the Colorado GOP's crown jewel
Then the GOP is worse off than I thought.

Does a "king maker"'s candidate poll at 38% 80 days from the election?

What do you Republicans on here think about this? If I was a Republican, I would be up in arms--not to mention worried about November.


[ Parent ]
GOP's crown jewel?
The thought of Dick Wadham's being referred to as Colorado's GOP crown jewel makes me cringe.

I have faith in the integrity of Mike Coffman to do whatever he believes is right for the people of Colorado.  He has too much character to be swayed by the opinions of others.

Nobody is perfect and nobody needs to be.

H. Jackson Brown, Jr.


[ Parent ]
Maybe
But what about Bob Schaffer? Isn't this guy Schaffer's campaign manager? Bob cannot possibly hold onto to Dick if he expects to win.

[ Parent ]
I would be kind of leery
of holding onto Dick myself but hey that's just me.

[ Parent ]
LOL
Didn't realize the double entendre I created. I can assure you from Schaffer's opinions on the subject, he does not condone holding onto dick. Whadams on the other hand, is a different story.

[ Parent ]
The sad thing is, Kopelman's right
Wadhams IS Colorado's Republican crown jewel right now.

Oh, how the mighty have fallen!

"Why not do the right thing for the American people, even though it's not exactly what we want." - Speaker Boehner


[ Parent ]
Which may explain why
we now have a Dem governor, Dem majorities in both houses of our state legislature, a Dem majority congressional delegation and a decreasing proportion of Republicans in terms of voter registration.  

He's also the man behind the loss responsible for Dems taking over the US Senate in 2006 by electing a Dem Senator in Virginia, now soon to be followed by a second Dem Senator, so popular (Warner 20+ points ahead) he might bring Virginia into the win column for Obama.  

He's a jewel all right; for the Dems.


[ Parent ]
Wadhams is a "crown jewel"....
that reminds me of an old Joan Rivers line:
"That isn't a jewel, its a piece of shit in four prongs!"

"But when I see a 9-11 victim family on television, or whatever, I'm just like, 'Oh, shut up!' I'm so sick of them because they're always complaining."  Glenn Beck  

Much Ado About Nothing
Maybe they would put up Shawn Mitchell to get him out of a race he is about to lose. Mike Coffman is not going to quit early so that this scenario can transpire.

I hear that Rosemary Rodriguez is interested in the appointment.  That may leave Joan Fitz-Gerald and Andrew Romanoff on the outside looking in as their political options dwindle.


Much "Andrew" About Nothing
That may leave Joan Fitz-Gerald and Andrew Romanoff on the outside looking in as their political options dwindle.

Romanoff's political options are anything but dwindling right now. He has a bright and long future ahead of him in politics.


[ Parent ]
OK What are those options?
Andrew passed up chances to run for Governor, Treasurer and US Senate. What options does he have?  

[ Parent ]
I've heard a lot of talk on here
About him getting appointed in the Obama administration should Barack win.

I still think Ritter could appoint him to be Education Czar to figure out the budget crisis.

Not to mention his credentials would make him a great SoS.

Either way, Romanoff is not going away any time soon.


[ Parent ]
And he's still a young pol
He can take some time out in either the private or at least unelected position sector, maybe even get a personal life, and come back in the near political future.  I hope he does.  There's more to life than being a 100% wonk and candidates who seem to lead closer to normal lives come across better to ordinary people than Andrew might at this stage, trying to run outside the small world of a safe state legislature district.

[ Parent ]
He should take some time off
Find a nice girl and settle down.

"Why not do the right thing for the American people, even though it's not exactly what we want." - Speaker Boehner

[ Parent ]
Let's get rid of term limits
Is it still too late to get that onto the ballot-from-hell? If we did, then Romanoff could hang around state government until a better office opened up.

[ Parent ]
...and keep Wally and the Beaver outta trouble!


I'm not as sweet as I used to be.

[ Parent ]
You hear that Rosemary is interested?
...I've been screaming it for months now!  I'm glad someone finally heard me.

I'm not as sweet as I used to be.

[ Parent ]
Doesn;t fly
I'm at work and can't work thru all the posts to see if someone else said this yet, but the replacement iin vacant constitutional offices is dictated by law (actually state constituion I think). The Governor appoints, period.

Retirement in action does not equal retirement of beliefs.

right you are Kopelman does not deny this
All Kopelman is saying is that an early resignation would force a special election for the remaining two years of the Coffman term.  

[ Parent ]
He is wrong again.
Last day to nominate people to a ballot is 75 days before an election (this coming Thursday) which does not allow time to nominate candidates for a special election.

Retirement in action does not equal retirement of beliefs.

[ Parent ]
Is that true for vacancies?
Quoting from the email in the original post:

(c) If the vacancy occurs during the sixty-seven days before the primary election or after the primary election and no later than sixty-eight days before the general election, the designated election official shall add the office to the notice of election for the general election. Nominations for the office shall be made by the respective party central committee vacancy committee for the state, county, judicial district, or state senate district or as provided in section 1-4-802 for the nomination of unaffiliated candidates.

If that's the relevant piece of law, it sounds like the deadline is 68 days, not 75.  That's one more week to do something.

Many were increasingly of the opinion that they'd all made a big mistake in coming down from the trees in the first place.  And some said that even the trees had been a bad move, and that no one should ever have left the oceans. - Douglas Adams


[ Parent ]
This applies to a vacancy in a nomination, not an office in midterm
Since the SoS is not up for election this year, this statute would not apply.

The discussion is somewhat acedemic in the sense that Coffman has publicly said he does not intend to resign prior to the General Election.

Retirement in action does not equal retirement of beliefs.


[ Parent ]
No matter
Coffman keeps reaffirming his intention to stay throught the election.  Since he's running in such a safe district and won so decisively he can do whatever he wants.  Coffman has it made and knows it.  If he pisses some in his own party off, so what?

[ Parent ]
so what?
His party might not be so helpful come redistricting. Probably won't matter, but those vindictive Republicans can be dangerous, and they've got long memories.

[ Parent ]
For all intents and purposes now
Coffman is the party now. He's by far the big dog Republican in this state. Especially after Schaffer flames out in November.

Where all the cool kids will be on Saturday - Code War!

[ Parent ]
this is cutting it as close as the midnight gerrymandering stunt they tried in '03
   but it's still do-able, if they can suspend the advance notice requirement for the state central committee calls.  
  Don't those have to be issued at least 10 days before the central committee meets?  Of course in the GOP, I wouldn't be surprised if the Crown Jewel has authority to suspend the notice rule.

[ Parent ]
It's not an SoS rule...it's statute


Retirement in action does not equal retirement of beliefs.

[ Parent ]
But if Coffman resigns now
And Ritter gets to name the replacement, then the office is up for election this November, giving us Reps the opportunity of retaining it after this election.

It's an interesting idea, that's for sure


[ Parent ]
Coffman
Does not have the morals to relinquish SOS before he personally certifies this election.

"Fake but accurate!" ~GOPwarrior "infrastructure,whatever that is." ~bjwilson83 "You leftist DICK!" ~ Laughing Boy
See you at the polls you dumb bastard.~Libertad  


[ Parent ]
Bring It On!
   He won't do it. The GOP aint ready.  The Dems have the enthusiasm, the money, momentum and a farm team of S.O.S. candidates (Romanoff, Fitz-Gerald, Kearns, Rodriguez, Gordon).  
  The GOP will be stuck running the first-term Arapahoe Clerk and Recorder whose biggest accomplishment is cleaning the mess her over-libidoed predecessor left.
  You guys need whatever money you can scrape together to help B.S. not get blown out of the water, and try to save Musty's butt.  You're not going to spend it on an S.O.S. campaign.

[ Parent ]
Actually...
I'd rather it be Bob Balink

[ Parent ]
Balink - El Paso County Clerk and Recorder
whose main accomplishment seems to be using official government communication to write and distribute his political opinion pieces.

"Apple denies that, based on their common meaning, the words 'app store' together denote a store for apps"
-- Legal filing by Apple Computer


[ Parent ]
I Agree Dan
The Governor appoints, period.
Ol dick wad_hams may not realize this. as yet, he is after all, a carpetbagger. Keeping him in the dark, along with the rest of the GOP would indeed make them look stupid. come Halloween. (not that they need any help in that area.)

"Fake but accurate!" ~GOPwarrior "infrastructure,whatever that is." ~bjwilson83 "You leftist DICK!" ~ Laughing Boy
See you at the polls you dumb bastard.~Libertad  


[ Parent ]
Halloween
I can't think of a scarier costume than Dick Wadhams, complete with some sort of tool for shoving things up people's asses.

[ Parent ]
Everyone is laughing at the joke from redstateblues
Loud laughter heard from Senator Strickland, Senator Daschle and Governor Schoettler.  Yes, he lost one in a landslide year for Democrats but he is still better than anyone this State has ever seen.  

[ Parent ]
he is still better than anyone this State has ever seen.
You've got to be kidding me. I am no fan of the GOP, but I feel sorry for you if he is the best you guys can come up with. He is an utter embarrassment for the GOP, and for the state of Colorado as a whole.

[ Parent ]
Wadhams accomplishments
were mainly that he knew how to beat good-government moderate Democrats who had soft leads running in red western states.  He did it with the same formula we all know pretty well; say outrageously slanderous things, and people's natural "parity" instinct will make issues like "character" and "competence" into a wash, then rely on voters who have been Republicans for ages voting for the Republican in a tie-breaker.  Unfortunately for him, Virginia turned out to be a somewhat different kind of state, and he didn't just "lose one" there; he lost a whopper of a statewide race with a candidate who was so popular he was supposed to be seriously running for president this past spring, and to a challenger who was down by double digits just a couple months before the election.

So can Wadhams use his old formula, which is basically all he's shown that he's got?  Well, Colorado isn't so red any more.  We'll see, I guess.

"Apple denies that, based on their common meaning, the words 'app store' together denote a store for apps"
-- Legal filing by Apple Computer


[ Parent ]
Actually, Wadhams is not a carpetbagger
He originally hails from Las Animas, Bent County, Colorado.

On another trivia note, the late actor, Ken Curtis, who played Festus on the long running TV Western Gunsmoke grew up living in the Bent County jailhouse.  His father was the county sheriff back then.

Nobody is perfect and nobody needs to be.

H. Jackson Brown, Jr.


[ Parent ]
I stand corrected.


"Fake but accurate!" ~GOPwarrior "infrastructure,whatever that is." ~bjwilson83 "You leftist DICK!" ~ Laughing Boy
See you at the polls you dumb bastard.~Libertad  


[ Parent ]
Yes, the governor appoints
No one is disputing that.

The issue at hand is whether that would trigger a special election in 2008 that would make the contest more of an open election, as opposed to waiting until 2010 to try and beat the incumbent Democrat


[ Parent ]
My guess is no
Coffman would likely resign early to be a team player. I just do not see any desire on the part of the GOP already struggling for campaign funds to take on another expensive race.

Team player?
Weren't we talking just the other day about how Coffman's decision to run for Congress was contrary to the "team's" wishes? If he were a team player, he would have stayed in the SoS and wouldn't have run for Congress. The "team" didn't support him in the primary, and I don't see why he'd change his mind now and resign early just to be a team player.

History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme.  (Mark Twain)

[ Parent ]
Is this guy in love with Wadhams
This reads more like a love letter than a political proposal.

Where all the cool kids will be on Saturday - Code War!

he really is engaging in some serious ass-kissing


[ Parent ]
It's downright creepy


" The webinar is free, however, there are only 250 spaces available "

Some douche


[ Parent ]
Maybe it's a requirement
for intraparty memos, along with the Edmund Burke quote? Has anyone checked the state GOP rules and bylaws lately?

[ Parent ]
An odd choice of words
I met this evening with our hard-working, heroic, thoughtful State Party Chairman, Dick Wadhams , who personally told me "he never backs down" but expressed grave concerns about the possibility of trouble in the event of an extremely close race and how it might turn out if Mike Coffman was not at the helm of the SOS office.

The experience I gained from working in the SOS office allowed me to explain to the Chairman....

As I read the beginning of Dan Kopelman's e-mail, I was struck by how it came off sounding like some Communist communique from the old Soviet Union.  

Nobody is perfect and nobody needs to be.

H. Jackson Brown, Jr.


[ Parent ]
our hard-working, heroic, thoughtful State Party Chairman
That's a perfect analogy. I'm surprised Dan didn't praise the Chairman's successful harvest and gloried adherence to the five-year plan, not to mention his skill playing the balalaika.

[ Parent ]
SOS
Republicans have already dug themselves a big enough hole (do you think they are actually willing to spread themselves that thin to risk chances in other races?). I hope they do go after the SOS seat. That way they will lose the Presidential and Senators race for sure in Colorado, Betsy could win and Joe could win the seat Mitchell holds now and we could pick up even more seats in the House, while they are fighting for SOS. Go Republican's. You can do it! Go after that all important SOS seat.

For real?
The odd language makes me suspect of fraud.

Take off the knee pads, Dan!


"At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid." - Nietzsche  

Boy, I hope you mesant Kopelman! :)


Retirement in action does not equal retirement of beliefs.

[ Parent ]
Crown Jewel
If Dick Wadhams pulls this off he deserves a crown jewel.   I bet he gets one if he puts a Republican in the SoS office.

Friends Encourage Friends To Vote Republican

I've always had
a different interpretation of Crown Jewels but we all know how repressed Republicans are so who knows maybe they are talking in code once again.

[ Parent ]
Maybe...
...you can bow down and worship him.  

[ Parent ]
The state Republican power elite in Colorado...
Ok, lets fast-forward to mid November. Bob Schaffer has gone down in flames. Dick Wadhams has no future in Colorado after runnign a pathetic campaign.

At that point - Mike Coffman is the Republican party in Colorado. He's not part of the elite. He's not a the biggest dog in the elite. He's the entire thing himself.

Because all the major Republican players have all worked very hard to make it clear that Mike is not one of them, it means that when Mike becomes the one and only elected Republican who is widely visible and respected, he also becomes the power center. And because the others never played nice with him - it leaves him there in sole control.

Interesting change occuring...

Where all the cool kids will be on Saturday - Code War!


Hey wait a minute... what about Lamborn?
And maybe Musgrave?

(Oh wait a sec, you also said "widely visible and respected." Never mind.)

"Why not do the right thing for the American people, even though it's not exactly what we want." - Speaker Boehner


[ Parent ]
There's still Suthers
As the sole remaining Republican statewide elected official, he'd be sure to have some kind of role.  Visibility has been an issue for him, though...

"We're below sharks and contract killers." -- Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), speaking on Congress's 9% approval rating

[ Parent ]
Who?
Visibility is Suther's problem. A lot of the existing Republican power brokers will try to ride that horse but will find lack of visibility is a giant power drain.

Where all the cool kids will be on Saturday - Code War!

[ Parent ]
in a pissing match between the Crown Jewel and Marine Mike....
...my money is on Coffman!  

Do you think you'll get a lot of takers?
Sorry, on the Big Line, Marine Mike gets 3-2 and Crown Jewel takes 50-1.  Not much return on them odds (and boy are they odd...).

"We're below sharks and contract killers." -- Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), speaking on Congress's 9% approval rating

[ Parent ]
Dan, your wrong on this one.
Dan, you are wrong on this one.  If Coffman resigns, depending on exactly when, there would be a vacancy election this year.  The vacancy election takes places at the next general election, not the next election that the race is to be on the ballot.  That is why Donetta had to run in 2000 and 2002.
If Coffman were to get out in time, the race would be on the ballot in November.

When is the deadline
for Coffman to resign so the GOP can put someone's name in nomination for the special election? Wouldn't the Democrats have to do the same? Is their time frame the same? it seems like these are big questions to be answering in such a small window.

[ Parent ]
didn't some post that it's next week?
   And yes, the Dems would also have to convene the Central Committee to designate a candidate.
  Think of the fun Pat Waak would have trying to assemble them the week of the national convention!

[ Parent ]
Wouldn't the special election between the 'pub and the incumbent?
..i.e., the appointee of Ritter?  Such that such appointee would automatically be on the special election ballot?  Damn, where are those people who claim to know a lot about arcane rules that never seem to amount to much?

I'm not as sweet as I used to be.

[ Parent ]
wasn't Donetta appointed in '99?


[ Parent ]
I hope that Pat and the rest of the CDP
read the GOP threads too! They should probably get on this if it's actually going to happen. Get on the horn to JFG--we need her after all!

[ Parent ]
Yes, Donetta was appointed in '99
After Vicky Buckley passed away.  She then had to run in the vacancy election in 2000 and then again when the SOS was regularly on the ballot in 2002.

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