Bob Magoo in 2008

I LOVE IT!

Bob Magoo will take his place alongside Both Ways Bob and Madam Beastiality Rant Rowland in the Pantheon of Political Boobs!

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by: One Queer Dude @ Mon May 14, 2007 at 13:30:20 PM CDT

Must be a slow News day huh?

It did make me laugh though... Not because the jabs stung Bob any, just because how lame the post was.

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by: Iron_Mike @ Mon May 14, 2007 at 13:44:55 PM CDT

It burns! It burns!

C'mon, admit it - it was one of the lamest starts to a campaign in Colorado history. As CP said, it doesn't mean he'll lose when all's said and done, but what a lousy beginning.

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by: Tancredo Watch @ Mon May 14, 2007 at 20:44:46 PM CDT

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Eau de Loser

I have to admit it. I have some respect for Bob. He was true to his term limits pledge unlike some people we know ( cough! cough! Tancredo). But in the end whatever respect I have left for the man has been greatly diminished by this quixotic run for the Senate.....again. At least this time he won't get his ass beat by a beer baron in the primary. It looks like he'll actually make it to the general this time - where he'll get his ass handed to him by Udall. I know it's early and it is going to be a tough race. But the guy's making some major mistakes and once the pressure's on this kind of amateur hour hijinks will only intensify. My two cents.

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by: A little more to the left.... @ Mon May 14, 2007 at 13:45:44 PM CDT

I think it'll be a close race

Schaffer will hang "Boulder liberal" around Udall's neck as much as possible.

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by: Tancredo Watch @ Mon May 14, 2007 at 20:46:11 PM CDT

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race will be close

Udall does not have this locked up by any means.  It will be anyone's guess who wins this thing.

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by: mountain man @ Mon May 14, 2007 at 21:14:43 PM CDT

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Udall by 12%

"I can tolerate chaos, I'm just not sure chaos can tolerate me" Dylan

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by: Sir Robin @ Mon May 14, 2007 at 21:49:15 PM CDT

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HA

with no repub primary I wouldn't be surprised if tricky dick starts slangin mud at Udall by memoral day.  This is going to be a long nasty fight and that is bad new for Udall. 

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by: mountain man @ Mon May 14, 2007 at 21:52:48 PM CDT

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Hire John Marshall!

Then Bob Magoo really will win!

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by: MiddleRoadDem @ Mon May 14, 2007 at 14:04:56 PM CDT

Do you get the feeling the Republicans aren't even trying?

This is like how they run a candidate in CD-1. They know they will lose but they need to have someone on the ballot. I think they figure Udall has this won.

- dave

Tom Tancredo Interview

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by: DavidThi808 @ Mon May 14, 2007 at 14:35:57 PM CDT

Interesting.

That was the narrative early on in 2004, as well.  Tancredo, Musgrave, several others had declined to run, prompting the right-wing National Review to wring its hands, wondering if any Republican would step up to the challenge at all.

And this year the Colorado GOP is backing into the election even more timidly.

Hee, hee.

"But every Republican in the world is a lobbyist…" -- Bill O'Reilly

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by: OscarTheCouch @ Mon May 14, 2007 at 18:07:44 PM CDT

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Lest we soon forget...

Shari Williams also master minded the "brilliancy" that was the Bruce Benson campaign which, as others have suggested, ranked right up there with the BWB mess...

AND

...she served as "unofficial" GC for the No On Ref C camp in 2005.

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by: fredthompson @ Mon May 14, 2007 at 14:38:51 PM CDT

and speaking of Bruce Benson alumni.......

wasn't "Condom Bob" the Oil & Gas Man's running mate for Lt. Guv in '94?

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by: One Queer Dude @ Mon May 14, 2007 at 14:44:13 PM CDT

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You are correct

Man, you're good

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by: Haners @ Mon May 14, 2007 at 15:25:07 PM CDT

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What has Shari Williams done right?

Seriously, she must have done SOMETHING right to earn the nod? Someone please edify the rest of us.

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by: Tancredo Watch @ Mon May 14, 2007 at 20:47:55 PM CDT

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Dick Wadhams will be the great wizard

behind the curtain running Schaffer's campaign.  I suspect he will be "running" a bunch of legislative, especially the Senate, campaigns.  He'll set the tone for all the R races and have regular sessions with individual campaigns to shore them up.  He'll have a handfull of assistants, Williams being one.

It will be interesting to see how the Dems respond.

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by: puddin @ Mon May 14, 2007 at 23:19:15 PM CDT

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:::Sigh:::

This certainly is weird.  How could someone who's announced so many other times have messed this up so bad?  I mean, come on....with as many e-mails as I get from Republicans, I didn't even get one for this announcement.  How many people even showed up?

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by: Haners @ Mon May 14, 2007 at 15:27:11 PM CDT

Meanwhile

  Udall has helped to broker a compromise with Allard and Repubs for wildnerness protection of Rocky Mtn Natl Park, and has sponsored and passed legislation out of committee to restrict eminent domain takeover of Pinon Canyon extension by the Army, protecting both environmental and ranching interests. 
  On Iraq he voted against the McGovern Amendment to force withdrawal of US forces but for the limited supplemental funding resolution that passed--a cautious but politically defensible pair of votes.
  These actions may not directly address the fundraising criticism but they do add to a base of tangible actions with broad spectrum support. 

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by: RavenDawg @ Mon May 14, 2007 at 15:53:54 PM CDT

Schaffer scaring you

I read this blog, I read these posts.  I can smell your fear.

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by: Mr. Creosote @ Mon May 14, 2007 at 16:42:23 PM CDT

No, that's your breath

:)

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by: Colorado Pols @ Mon May 14, 2007 at 16:56:16 PM CDT

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Yawn.

Let me know if a Republican with any sense(not cents) actually runs for Senate. IMO, Schaffer announcing finally that he is going to run is about as exciting as watching George Bush trying to to say something meaningful.

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by: Dawg48 @ Mon May 14, 2007 at 17:18:55 PM CDT

Spot On, Dawg!

"I can tolerate chaos, I'm just not sure chaos can tolerate me" Dylan

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by: Sir Robin @ Mon May 14, 2007 at 20:11:39 PM CDT

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Slow news day?

I thought you guys already ran pretty much the same story before?  Schaffer has already got 3 separate days of stories talking about him running, doesnt sound bumbling to me.  Average voter doesnt care the exact date he announced or if he back tracked on his announcement, nor will most of them ever know.

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by: John Galt @ Mon May 14, 2007 at 20:26:55 PM CDT

...because, silly...

...it has to do with a Republican.  Hence the cool graphics.

BTW, Love your name!  Just one question, though - Who are you ?

:)

"Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys."

P.J. O'Rourke

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by: Laughing Boy @ Tue May 15, 2007 at 07:20:19 AM CDT

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LB probably knows the answer to his own question, but

John Galt's name is enshrined in the question "Who is John Galt?" The phrase is used popularly as an expression of helplessness and despair at the sorry state of the world. As many on this site know, he was a main character in Atlas Shrugged.

"I can tolerate chaos, I'm just not sure chaos can tolerate me" Dylan

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by: Sir Robin @ Tue May 15, 2007 at 08:27:23 AM CDT

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Thanks

I never read Atlas Shrugged so all that was going right over my head. I tried to read The Fountainhead once but just couldn't get through it. I seem to recall a scene where the "hero" basically date-rapes some girl and decided that was enough for me. (It's been a long time, someone correct me if I'm wrong about that.)

"The fact that we Dems can't rebuild the house does not mean you bring back the [Republicans] who burned it down." - DavidThi808

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by: Aristotle @ Tue May 15, 2007 at 08:51:20 AM CDT

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...

Ah, you've caught me.  One of my favorite books, which I'm now in the middle of again.

I disagree, Sir Robin, as to the meaning of the question.  Galt rebelled at collectivist or socialistic principles being forced on him.  TO me, it's obviously a metaphor representing the great gifts lost to mankind when freedom is restricted, in this case, economic freedom.

If everyone on this blog read or re-read Atlas things would be very different around here.  I doubt there would be any 'Fairness' doctrine discussions similar to the ones we've had.

"Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys."

P.J. O'Rourke

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by: Laughing Boy @ Tue May 15, 2007 at 09:29:32 AM CDT

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Ayn Rand

Had very much her own axe to grind, after what the Bolsheviks did to her father's business.  (I hope I have the general idea, here.)

But it's a hell of a long way from a Communist revolution taking things over than a deliberative, democratic process. 

Remember, it's fiction.

"Collective fear stimulates herd instinct and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd." -Bertrand Russell

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by: parsingreality @ Tue May 15, 2007 at 13:36:26 PM CDT

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don't tell that to the Rand Institute

...they may come after you, Scientologist-like

:-)

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by: Cuervo71 @ Tue May 15, 2007 at 13:38:59 PM CDT

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...

Closer to reality than you'd probably be comfortable with.  We probably have completely opposite views on free market economics.

"Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys."

P.J. O'Rourke

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by: Laughing Boy @ Tue May 15, 2007 at 16:17:11 PM CDT

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Yes.

When capitalism was the most unfettered, we had the grossest violations of economic human rights.  Only when we controlled the fire, but still let it burn, did we have the great American middle class develop.

Ideology is fine, but history rebutts "free market economics" as being good for society.

"Collective fear stimulates herd instinct and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd." -Bertrand Russell

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by: parsingreality @ Tue May 15, 2007 at 18:28:53 PM CDT

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I wholeheartedly disagree.

Respectfully, of course.  Name a major benefit to mankind that has come through collectivism as opposed to capitalism...

"Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys."

P.J. O'Rourke

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by: Laughing Boy @ Tue May 15, 2007 at 21:01:22 PM CDT

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How about the Allies in WWII?

The military is one of the most collectivist organizations on the planet. They did a pretty good job in WWII...

Tom Tancredo Interview

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by: DavidThi808 @ Tue May 15, 2007 at 21:32:37 PM CDT

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No such thing as "free markets"

in the ideal form, anyway. Government will always be needed to provide infrastructure. Most businesses know how to operate, even exploit, the confines of regulation.

PR is right. Business needs regulation like government needs separation of powers. It prevents abuse because abuse is inevitable. The free market ideal, like the communist ideal, is based on the idea that people are all altruistic. The sad reality is that enough people are not. Still, capitalism is the best economic system to choose from. Just make sure government, which is ultimately accountable to us all, is watching out that business, which is not, doesn't take unfair advantage of consumers.

This is why I'm always skeptical of businessmen running for office. They aren't by nature the kind of people who think of everyone's best interest. Look at our current president as an example...

"The fact that we Dems can't rebuild the house does not mean you bring back the [Republicans] who burned it down." - DavidThi808

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by: Aristotle @ Wed May 16, 2007 at 01:21:13 AM CDT

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Business people know this..

...that they need guvmint to operate.  Where would they be without the courts, roads, and schools? (To name just three "collectivistic" successes, LB.)  It's the lay people like LB who don't get it, not the CEO's. 

The natural progression of unregulated capitalism is monopoly.  Think Standard Oil, Carnegie Steel, the RR's, etc.  Oh yeah, Exxon-Mobil and many other mergers in the last decade.  Where are TWA, American Motors? 

"Collective fear stimulates herd instinct and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd." -Bertrand Russell

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by: parsingreality @ Wed May 16, 2007 at 07:23:25 AM CDT

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I'm sorry..

Did you just say the schools were a "success"?

Funny you should mention the airline industry and the automotive industry - two business entities largely run into the ground by collectivist union interference.

I never said we didn't need the government.  I think we need much, much less of it. There is a vast difference between unregulated capitalism and over-regulation.  We are much farther toward the over-regulation side.  If you own a business (I don't know if you do or not) than I think you understand this very clearly.

OK, I admit, Parsing.  We do need roads.  Great point.

"Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys."

P.J. O'Rourke

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by: Laughing Boy @ Wed May 16, 2007 at 07:38:40 AM CDT

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don't buy it

I've seen this "unions run business into the ground" talking point over and over without any detailed examples of where that happened. The first industry you mentioned is the victim of a marketplace that doesn't want to pay a lot for its service (I can generally find tickets for around $250 - $300 a pop, which is not much up from the $200-$225 I paid 15 years ago - and I know their expenses have gone up and it ain't all pension and salaries so don't try to tell me it is). The second industry is the victim of stagnant business practices, e.g. not being innovative (they let Japanese automakers get the edge on hybrids) or flexible (they kept on pouring out the SUV's like gas wasn't going to get expensive again).

In short, they're the victims of the marketplace. Capitalism at it's finest.

"The fact that we Dems can't rebuild the house does not mean you bring back the [Republicans] who burned it down." - DavidThi808

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by: Aristotle @ Wed May 16, 2007 at 09:39:47 AM CDT

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I just flew SW

the most unionized airline in America.  And the most solvent and the most growing.

Now, what was that about unions?

As to the others, HINT: Baaaaaaad management.

"Collective fear stimulates herd instinct and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd." -Bertrand Russell

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by: parsingreality @ Thu May 17, 2007 at 22:07:13 PM CDT

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