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Dan Maes Strikes Back

by: bjwilson83

Tue Sep 07, 2010 at 23:08:01 PM MDT


(Something like that. - promoted by Colorado Pols)

Finally, Dan sets the record straight.

What do you think? It appears to me that Dan is simply a newcomer to politics who ran up against the establishment machine. I just can't find anything in all of these accusations that is a serious problem. Can you?
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Dan Maes Strikes Back | 66 comments
Give me a fucking break
It appears to me that Dan Maes' "undercover work" with the KBI was entirely in his head ala John Nash in A Beatiful Mind and seems to have centered around walking in a poker game.

Even in this video, he makes the claim that he has never exaggerated his business experience and then goes on to claim to have "turned around several failing businesses." He was a low-level telephone system salseman, he is not a turnaround artist. He can't even help himself from lying when he is trying to set the record straight.

This guy is an old fashioned confidence man. He tricked Freda Poundstone out of $300 and now he's taking all of his followers for a ride.

entirely in his head ala John Nash in A Beatiful Mind
Are you sure it isn't more like

** SPOILER ALERT **

Shutter Island?

Whether you want to call it "working undercover for the KBI" or "reparative therapy for a shattered mind," let's just all hope we're doing our part in Dan's healing. It's going to take some time.

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Telephone system salesman?
I hadn't heard that one. I believe he owned Amaesing Credit Solutions.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
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And there's no doubt
Dan "believes" he owned it too. That's why we must take the utmost care -- no sudden movements.
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Trust but verify, BJ
Dan says he turned around businesses in Chicago and New York in his video. In truth, he was hawking voicemail systems.
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Oh ok.
Why exactly could he not turn around a voicemail company?

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
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Because there is no front or back with voicemail
so you can't turn it around like a horse.

Silly rabbit.

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"Amaesing Credit Solutions":
1. Take $300 from a former supporter, fail to report it as a campaign contribution.

2. When paying back said $300, fail to sign the check.

3. Collect $40,000 in "mileage" from your own campaign.

4. Go on Food Stamps; don't let it bother you from criticizing such government programs.

Yes: Truly Amaesing!

"Why not do the right thing for the American people, even though it's not exactly what we want." - Speaker Boehner

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I turned around a failing business once
I bought an Apple Computer in 1992. Elect me Governor.

"Why not do the right thing for the American people, even though it's not exactly what we want." - Speaker Boehner
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Maes Strikes Out is more accurate.

Mr. Maes should honor his promise to answer questions.

http://coloradopols.com/diary/...

He is a newcomer to politics and that's not always a good thing. As a new comer why did he choose to start at the top and run for governor?  Why not run for a different office first?  

It appears that newcomer Maes does not understand the CO government,


Maes is not viable, but you and Hick want to prop Dan up
Tancredo is the only viable alternative to Hick .... check it out


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Yeah... Caldara thought Maes couldn't win the primary either. n/t


"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
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Neither did Scott or Ellie
Frankly I thought SM had it in the bag myself, until I was informed by a couple of 60 year old lifelong GOPers that they were going with Maes. I asked why and they indicated 'protest vote'.

Now I see Armstrong, Beauprez, Coffman, Brown, Andrews, etc... have abandoned Maes. It's clear there is a move afoot to go with Tancredo.

I much prefer Tanc in the mansion when we need to raise taxes to cover the Democrat policy bets gone bad. I can understand that the Mayor says he wants to cut government spending ... but he's given no firm proposals besides ending CSAP.

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Plus
He'll keep any pesky Mexicans from moving in next door to you.

Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno
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I know and live near many Legal Aliens
Face it this, we're in an international world, free trade and all.

You wouldn't accept undocumented [illegal]cash to flow across borders, you require every TATA programmer to get legal, but its ok to give people even more rights if they break the law by being Illegal Aliens.

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Don't underestimate the protest vote against Tancredo.
His broken promises and back room dealing won't sit well with the public.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
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Political elites hate Tanc
I wasn't around during this term limits thing, but the Colorado Governor is term limited. What Tom brings to Colorado is a balanced, just and reasonable approach to ethical goverance.

Government can't create private sector growth, it only discourages it. Stay as always forcused on the principles BJ.

Restore the business sales tax exemptions that were eliminated by the Ritter "Dirty Dozen" Tax hikes, the Senior Homestead Exemption, and roll back the mill levy freeze.

Repeal the job-killing Business Personal Property Tax.

Revisit and revise harmful Ritter-era regulations, including the restrictive new oil and gas regulations.

Protect American workers (and help honest employers ensure that their employees are legally in the country) through the use of a mandatory workplace verification system such as E-Verify


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Oh really?
Is that why this article just came out today? Tancredo has been involved in back room manipulation from the beginning. Much like the characters in Animal Farm, he has become the political elite. His recent behavior and interviews have reviewed an inherently egotistical man, even if he can't admit it to himself. He thinks he alone can dictate what the GOP must do.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
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...revealed


"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
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GOP splintering to support Tancredo
TANC BACKED BY moderates, progressives and hardliners:

U.S. Rep. Steve King of Iowa
Former U.S. Rep. Bob Beauprez of Colorado
State Sen. Ted Harvey
State Sen. Greg Brophy
State Sen./Former Minority Leader Josh Penry
Former State Sen. Hugh Fowler
Former state Sen. Cliff Dodge
Former State Sen. Steve Durham
Former State Sen. Maynard Yost
State Rep. Spencer Swalm
State Rep. Marsha Looper
State Rep. Steve King
Former state Rep. Matt Knoedler
Former state Rep. John McElderry
Former state Rep. Frank DeFilippo
Former state Representative Rob Witwer
Former state Rep. Pam Rhodes
Arapahoe County Clerk Nancy Doty
Mesa County Commissioner Janet Rowland
Erie Mayor Joe Wilson
Glendale Mayor Pro Tem Mike Dunafon

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a.k.a. "the establishment"


"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
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Beej
"The Establishment" doesn't matter.  Not any more.

It's the people who count now.

If you want this asshole to be elected, you need to be out making phone calls and walking precincts.

And after he loses, you need to be ready to admit that your assessment of "mainstream" was just as flawed as your candidate.

Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno

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Governor mayor Hickenlooper was likely crowned Sept 3rd
The question is how far above 40% will Hick draw?

Could Tancredo pull it out, of course, but for that to occur Denver's media would need to actually demand answers from the candidates.

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Tancredo backed by a bunch of crazy right-wingers
Who are the moderates and progressives on that list? The Glendale Mayor Pro Tem? What the hell?

Just for fun I googled Mike Dunafon, whose claim to fame is apparently getting lots of no-bid city contracts for his buddies. Oh, he also campaigned against the mayor of Glendale in 2000 for being absentee...while the mayor was in training at National Guard command school. That didn't work out so well for him.

You really are scraping the bottom of the barrel to find Tancredo a little bit of support, aren't you?

"Have a Bobby bar! My dad made them." --Jon Huntsman Jr.

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If I wanted an R governor this time around, I'd vote T.Tanc.
Maes is a loon.

OJT might get him part way to not quite loon status. But he should do something else to learn the state gov't.

If Maes is elected, I'm moving out of Colorado.

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...extra reason why Maes needs to win. n/t


"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
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yeah,,, and when hu guts higher ed, you can go back to Kansas or Texas or wherever

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I'm quite happy in Colorado, thanks.
Although Texas has a much better economy due to its conservative values - I lived there for a while.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
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Texas's unemployment rate is HIGHER than Colorado's
Not by a lot, but unsurprisingly, you have zero support for your view that TX is in better economic shape than CO.

You know what you should do? Declare the unemployment stats a "hoax," like fossils, evolution, global warming, or any other facts that get in the way of your ability to believe whatever shit you want.

AraraGOP said Romney will win the nomination and "I don't see how he can survive the next year of withering attacks."

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By that rationale
so does Venezuela.

Its just like Further, but with tax cuts! - Fidel's Dirt Nap
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and massive federal spending.

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I love the huge "Devil's Advocate" sign right behind Tancredo
The cameraman obviously had a sense of humor.

"Why not do the right thing for the American people, even though it's not exactly what we want." - Speaker Boehner
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And the arrow is a direct link
from his head to the "Devil's Advocate" wording like a cartoon character balloon.

Priceless.

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I don't wan to prop Dan up
unless that's an R euphemism for him moving back to Kansas or Wisconsin.
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Walter Mitty for Governor!


Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno
This screams 'COMPETENCE!!!'
Sure, give him a state to run!  Why not??  What could go wrong?

"There are a lot of reasons not to elect me." Mitt Romney in a moment of clarity

"I'm Mitt Romney and yes, Wolf, that's also my first name," Willard Mitt Romney demonstrating 'policy flexibility.'  

LOL
If we elect Maes, before long we'll ALL be living in log cabins just like him.

"Why not do the right thing for the American people, even though it's not exactly what we want." - Speaker Boehner
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Delightful
I think I could sit here and listen to Dan Maes tell me stories for hours. If ever a man needed a public access show...

In fact, maybe if he becomes Governor he can do a weekly video podcast like President Obama! I would clear my schedule to listen to that every Sunday afternoon.

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Where is he?
The Unabomber's cabin?

Come on, CrazyDan©, just make your employment documentation with KBI public. This will settle it. (Well, I haven't seen an actual birth certificate for him either.)

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." --ChuckieD, 1871

You really think
the powerful people of Liberal, Kan., would allow the REAL reason Dan was dismissed to be written down in a personnel file? He got too close, man, he stepped into something he shouldn't have. Somebody got burned. That's life on the streets ... of Liberal, Kan.
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Maybe he should throw in a long form birth certificate
just for good measure.  Cover all his bases.
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THE MAN WHO KNEW TOO MUCH!
except for how to run a campaign, how to run a business, how to not steal from his donors, how "working undercover" works, how "mincing words" works, and how extortion works.

Give more, give everything, give blood.
Have you ever seen "The Informant" Beej?
That's what Dan's storytelling reminds me of.
Spot on, 2.0
Matt Damon plays Dan Maes (aka CrazyDan©:).



"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." --ChuckieD, 1871

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We'll know he's listening
when Dan grows a mustache. That'll shake things up!  
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Right, Maes was the "Angela from The Office" of a small-town police force
It's funny: when I first saw this video, I was sympathetic to Maes about the police incident, thinking, "oh, he got hosed, ok." But when you think through what happened, the story is a lot less sympathetic to him.

Basically, he wouldn't shut up to his superiors about wanting to arrest everyone at this poker game at someone's house he knew. They told him to shut up, we're not here to arrest guys for poker night. But being a judgmental moralist, Maes didn't drop it.

The missing link in his story is why the KBI met with him, given that a local poker game doesn't draw state-level investigation; the most likely answer is that Maes, who clearly saw himself as a righteous whistleblower, complained to the KBI "there's this illegal poker game and the police force won't arrest them." The KBI then met with him to make sure it wasn't something bigger, but also told his superiors. Nothing came of it -- Maes surely would tell us if the KBI ultimately arrested folks -- confirming that he was just being a real nut of a cop, refusing to give up his holy war on this poker game he knew.

AraraGOP said Romney will win the nomination and "I don't see how he can survive the next year of withering attacks."

But why was he fired?
Was it because he got too close to the mayor and his mistress, or was the president of the Chamber of Commerce dealing cards the night he wore a wire? Dan says it's time to move on, but I don't think there's a statute of limitations for the crimes he uncovered. Maybe if he's governor, he can talk the KBI into re-opening the case -- and this time, they'll get it right.
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I can't follow all BJ's twists and turns about supporting/opposing Maes
You started out emptily insisting Maes was great because he was for "the people." Then you bailed on him. Now you're back aboard?

AraraGOP said Romney will win the nomination and "I don't see how he can survive the next year of withering attacks."
Shill and idiot are not mutually exclusive
n/t

Its just like Further, but with tax cuts! - Fidel's Dirt Nap
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Neither are
"Midwestern Man of Mystery" and "Candidate for Governor." Nor should they be!
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Just too painful to watch
I could only watch about 4 minutes in total.
That is just creepy and painful.
But it's YouTube!
It must bet the truth. Just ask Beej.

Its just like Further, but with tax cuts! - Fidel's Dirt Nap
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Woo hoo!
This diary is the main link at complete Colorado! (www.completecolorado.com, Colorado's version of the Drudge Report) Now of course all you guys are going to pan it, but I think the "little people" in our state might feel differently.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
By "little people" do you mean midgets?
What has Dan Maes done for the midget population in Colorado?
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Little people
While a young police officer in Kansas, Dan Maes may or may not have broken up an illegal dwarf tossing ring that reached all the way to the top levels of the Reagan Administration. The KBI will neither confirm or deny.
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why don't U try that again ?
.
I know you were going for a "Wizard of Oz" tie-in, what with this combining Kansas, Little People and some man behind a curtain.
.
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Little people
While a young police officer in Kansas, Dan Maes may or may not have broken up an illegal dwarf tossing ring that reached all the way to the top levels of the Reagan Administration. The KBI will neither confirm or deny.
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Best video ever...
I mean, seriously. Poor wittle Dan Maes was just targeted by Kansas power players because he got too close to uncovering a vast home poker game conspiracy.

Awesome.

I knew he was poor, but I didn't realize he lives in a log cabin.
And that atrocious chair behind him? Screams of Goodwill blue-tag sale.

Maes needs to do everything he can to promote his image as a successful entrepreneur. Who the heck is advising him: the same guy who posed Beauprez in front of a horse's ass?

"Why not do the right thing for the American people, even though it's not exactly what we want." - Speaker Boehner

seems to me maes does not know the diffrence
between gambling and a game of Gin.

Certainly does not pay attention to the FACT that NO one backs up his story.

his teleprompter is either jerking along or Dam Maes here can't read.

"Fake but accurate!" ~GOPwarrior "infrastructure,whatever that is." ~bjwilson83 "You leftist DICK!" ~ Laughing Boy
See you at the polls you dumb bastard.~Libertad  

A perfectly reasonable explanation
There is nothing insincere about this explanation. I'm sorry that he is being subjected to your ruthless attacks, this will be a disincentive to other ordinary people to run for office.
Can you give a perfectly reasonable explanation
for why you think the schools would be better off if Brown v. Board of Education had been decided the other way? Still waiting for that, you racist little coward.

"Have a Bobby bar! My dad made them." --Jon Huntsman Jr.
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It's a trap
You're asking me if I think it would be better if we had segregated schools, and of course I do not.

But it would be better to have quality schools for EVERY CHILD, regardless of color, than to necessarily have schools where much resources and effort are spent racially engineering them.

A Democrat and former Colorado Governor named Dick Lamm, maybe you have heard of him, wrote about this idea in his book Two Wands. It's very good reading.

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So school segregation should have ended, but nobody should have ended it
which is equivalent to saying you don't really care if it ended or not. You objectively support segregation of schools. "Separate but equal" sounds like a good way of summarizing your position.

"Have a Bobby bar! My dad made them." --Jon Huntsman Jr.
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Lie to us again about 2 Supreme Court Justices agreeing w/ your Klan view...
... that Brown was wrongly decided? That was awesome, how you slandered Scalia & Thomas by implying they're not only conservatives, but freaky reactionaries like you who support the legality of segregation.

AraraGOP said Romney will win the nomination and "I don't see how he can survive the next year of withering attacks."
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How dd Maes get access to this illicit gambling den in the first place?
Apparently he had some very unsavory acquaintances when he was back in Liberal, KS. He must have been a real riot in college.

He then brought this to the attention of his superiors, who were so concerned about this gambling ring that they decided they couldn't handle it themselves. They must either call in the KBI or illegally(?) fire an young cop. We're supposed to believe they did one, then the other?

They called in the KBI, who initially started investigating, then decided not to? Who is gambling in Liberal that has enough power to scare off the KBI then convince Liberal Police to fire a cop who presumably had an otherwise clean record?

Where was Internal Affairs in this story?

This story has some incredible and ridiculous holes in it. Great bit of fiction though.

"But, when it comes to voting, when we only have two choices, you've got to grow up and realize there's a big difference between a disappointing friend and a deadly enemy" - Bill Maher

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