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Nice Job If You Can Get It

by: Colorado Pols

Tue Aug 24, 2010 at 14:46:45 PM MDT


Yesterday the campaign of Sen. Michael Bennet issued a press release detailing the fact that Republican Senate hopeful Ken Buck had missed at least 133 days of work (or about one-third of the time he should have been working) as Weld County District Attorney in order to campaign for the Senate.

Today, the Colorado Democratic Party issued a release calling on Republican CD-7 Ryan Frazier to pay back a chunk of his salary as an Aurora City Council Member since he has missed roughly 30% of his city council obligations in the last two years while campaigning, first for U.S. Senate, and now in CD-7.

Frazier's missed city council duties have previously been reported by the major Denver newspaper, and Buck's absences were recently reported by the newspaper in Greeley. We can't recall any prior candidate for a major office missing as much time in their prior elected positions Buck and Frazier. It's a staggering amount of absences, really, and doesn't do much to help them make the case that they're the candidates to fix an inefficient Congress; it's hard to be particularly efficient when you don't even show up for work.

This argument is particularly tough for Buck to repeat, when his opponent (Bennet) has a 100% voting record in the Senate...and his office is all the way across the country. In the month of July alone, Buck missed 25 days of work. 25!

But say this for Buck and Frazier: At least they've made their current jobs more attractive for future candidates. Run for my job, and you'll only have to show up one out of every three days!

Full press releases after the jump.

Colorado Pols :: Nice Job If You Can Get It
Colorado Democratic Party Release:
DENVER- Ryan Frazier has missed multiple votes on crime and the city budget while he has been out campaigning for his next potential job in Congressional District 7. According to several reports, Frazier has missed approximately 30% of his city council obligations in the last two years.

In response Colorado Democratic Party Chair Pat Waak released the following statement:

"It's appalling that Ryan Frazier thinks it's no big deal to miss more than a quarter of work for his part-time job and think that he is still representing his district well. Missing the final vote of the city budget in such tough economic times says a lot about his priorities which he claims are the economy and balancing the budget.  Unemployed taxpayers are paying his salary- we think it's only right for him to give back 30% of his city council pay for the votes he has missed.

"Using the excuse that he has to work to provide for his family is misleading. We know he hasn't had a job outside of Council since he decided to run for the Senate and then Congress. Although it's expected for sitting officials campaigning to miss some work, to miss so much over almost two years of campaigning and still think its ok is a big deal. Bob Beauprez and Paul Tauer had it right, Frazier "ought to be fired, not promoted."

Background:

Aurora City Council Final Vote on Operating and Capital Improvement Budget for 2010, October 26, 2009

Aurora City Council Final Vote on Establishing a Tax Levy for 2010, October 26, 2010

Aurora City Council Final Vote on the Levy of Property Taxes, June 30, 2008

Aurora City Council Vote Discouraging Drug Activity, April 23, 2007

Press Release from Michael Bennet Campaign

KEN BUCK'S DAY (YEAR) OFF
Buck Owes Taxpayers $60,038 for Missing Nearly One-Third of Word Days to Campaign

DENVER, CO -- Ken Buck is pretending to be fiscally responsible but as always he isn't telling the whole truth.  Over the past 18 months, Buck has racked up a tab at the taxpayers expense of $60,038 for missing at least 113 days of work to campaign.  Will he pay back the taxpayers for failing to do his job?

"Ken Buck skips out on work and then tries to cover his tracks, but as usual he isn't being honest with Coloradans," said Trevor Kincaid, Bennet for Colorado spokesman. "Ken Buck has been passing the bill for his campaign onto taxpayers while pretending to be concerned about our tax dollars.  Buck's political games and problems finding the truth continue to pile up and paint a very disturbing picture of a man who will say one thing and do another."

In an interview with the Greeley Tribune, Buck said he misses from 15 to 45 hours of work every week to campaign.  Buck told the Tribune, "It's a moral issue. If you're going to take a day's salary, you should do a day's work."  

As always, Buck's record paints a very different picture than what he would have voters believe.  Buck has missed at least 32.8 percent of work on weekdays and has spent at minimum 31.5 percent of his time on the campaign trail while collecting a full time salary and benefits.  A few examples of the amount of work Buck has missed over the past few months to campaign:

March 2010 (22 days campaigning)
April 2010 (18 days campaigning)
June 2010 (19 days campaigning)
July 2010 (25 days campaigning)

During the primary, Jane Norton raised issue with the amount of time Buck was away from his duties as DA.  The concerns were echoed in a Greeley Tribune editorial, which questioned whether Buck's actions were "morally or ethically right."

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Where is the DEM press release
picking on HickUNlooper?

How many "vacations" has Obama taken? How much time out politicing?
Want to try some consistency?
Has Obama given back any of his salary for the time he has not been running the country into the ground?
How many "vacations" has he had?
How many days has he spent on the political trail?
The only feedback mechanism the voters have is voting.  
If Buck runs for reelection in Greeley having lowered crime, do you think he will be reelected?
If Obama runs for reelection having raised unemployment, inceased th debt and deficits, do you think he will be reelected?
It is not about the time they put in, it is about the results they obtain.
I wonder why the Dems want to avoid talking about results?

We already know Bennet bought his win - that ability to raise more money is part of why many in our party love him. -DavidThi808
Michael Bennet - ineffective, dishonest and immoral - Democrat for US Senate  


[ Parent ]
Use Teh Google, H-man
Or are you afraid of facts?

http://www.suntimes.com/news/p...

That was as of July.  Add 10 days.

Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno


[ Parent ]
H-man, you need to look up the facts BEFORE you post
Republican presidents take about twice as many days off as Democratic presidents. I also recall W whining about how much work it was being president. Sheesh.

Obama trails Bush in vacation days 120 to 65
487 Days At Camp David For Bush
President Obama's Vacation Days

Its just like Further, but with tax cuts! - Fidel's Dirt Nap


[ Parent ]
More good news guys
Bennet's ads seem to be working. Buck 49- Bennet 40.  
Maybe its time for Pat Waak to issue another press release about how they turned around the economy?
http://www.pollster.com/blogs/...

We already know Bennet bought his win - that ability to raise more money is part of why many in our party love him. -DavidThi808
Michael Bennet - ineffective, dishonest and immoral - Democrat for US Senate  


[ Parent ]
Typo in Bennet's Press Release
I think there was a typo in Bennet's press release. The header should be wor(k) days, not word days.

It's a good thing Bennet hasn't missed work because this would be a double-edged sword of an argument.

Gotta Find a Better Sig Line. Any suggestions? :)


Bennet deserves major kudos for doing his job in D.C.
Most people there figure it's fine to skip Senate time to campaign. He's taken his responsibilities there seriously.

Where all the cool kids will be on Saturday - Code War!

[ Parent ]
Agreed
I went to 2 different Bennet events including a breakfast with HUD Secretary Donovan where Michael was not there because he was in DC doing his job.

"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."   Benjamin Franklin

[ Parent ]
That's pathetic.
Why doesn't he resign instead of sticking taxpayers with paying his salary and his sweet benefits package while he runs around the state? That would just be too honorable, I suppose.  

"I wouldn't characterize caloric intake as "professional development." c rork

Who Buck?
He did.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
When?
What day? And is he refunding taxpayers for the months we paid him while he ran for office?

"I wouldn't characterize caloric intake as "professional development." c rork

[ Parent ]
He is forgoing pay for two months while he is campaigning,
although he will stay in touch with the office.

http://www.denverpost.com/elec...

Is Bennet going to refund us for the year or so we've paid him while he's been running for office and giving away our taxpayer dollars?

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle


[ Parent ]
Great
But what about the other 133 days he missed? Is he paying back his salary for those days?

[ Parent ]
Don't confront BJ with facts
It gets him all confused.

Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno

[ Parent ]
Crybaby Bennet
Bennet is supposedly my representative.  He's not talking to me and he's not representing me.  How much is he going to give back to the taxpayers?

Code Pink stands for really, really radically ignorant babes.

Well, Marilou,
in all fairness, no one in his right mind is coming within a hundred yards of you so...

"I wouldn't characterize caloric intake as "professional development." c rork

[ Parent ]
...so she doesn't deserve representation?
Typical elitist mentality.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
Didn't say that.
Just explaining why people avoid her.

"Elitist mentality." Good one, buddy. Yeah, that's me, alright.  

"I wouldn't characterize caloric intake as "professional development." c rork


[ Parent ]
You said it in reference to her comment,
implying Bennet wouldn't come near her or listen to her concerns.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
?


"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
~


"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
Best comment of the day!


From Washington to Wall Street, we now have too many 5-watt bulbs sitting in 100-watt sockets.--Jim Hightower

[ Parent ]
To paraphrase
the late great Senator from Nebraska, Roman Hruska, in his "defense of mediocrity:"

Even idiots are entitled to a little representation, aren't they, and a little chance?

So, you are right, Beej, marilou does deserve representation. Maybe there is an elected official from Mississippi or somewhere that does a fine job of representing people like marilou and you.

The actual 1970 Hruska quote, in "support" of a mediocre nominee for the Supreme Court can be found on wikipedia.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." --ChuckieD, 1871


[ Parent ]
No, we deserve representation in Colorado, where we live,
along with the majority of Coloradans who agree with us.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
Don't get ahead of yourself.
The state has elected a lot of Democrats in recent years, including all but one of the statewide offices. I wouldn't conclude that the "majority of Coloradans" are conservative with that bit of evidence suggesting otherwise.

"Thank you for putting your rank political motives on display." - ArapaGOP

[ Parent ]
I was referring to Buck beating Bennet in the polls.


"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
You'd still be ahead of yourself in that case
since that's just one statewide office, and one that hasn't been decided.

We can revisit this after November, but keep one more thing in mind - a very large number of Americans care enough to vote but don't subscribe to either a liberal or conservative philosophy. If enough of them vote to put one side in power, it doesn't mean that they've all suddenly taken such a subscription; it just means that they found that party to be more appealing.

"Thank you for putting your rank political motives on display." - ArapaGOP


[ Parent ]
How about that massive Republican turnout vs. Democrat turnout in the primaries?
I'll settle for the majority finding my views more appealing.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
Ok, you guys concentrate on winning the polls
We'll focus on winning the vote :)

Where all the cool kids will be on Saturday - Code War!

[ Parent ]
Lol, oh it goes way beyond the polls my friend. :)


"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
Be Fair, Ardy
Maybe there is an elected official from Mississippi or somewhere

  Don't go picking on Mississippi.  South Carolina is now the official home of imbecelic politicians.  Surely, one can be found to represent Marilou...
  (don't do it, Ralphie.  I said, DON'T DO IT!)

[ Parent ]
I think she is receiving representation
by having representatives who don't try to peddle Death Panels and deny our dependence on oil.

[ Parent ]
If there's one group of people
that's sufficienlty well represented in Congress, it's the lunatics.

Don't believe everything you think.

[ Parent ]
Bennet has done town meetings all over the state
I'm sure he has come close to you. And, he IS representing you. And he is doing a fine job of it.

[ Parent ]
Nope.
I asked him how he planned to raise revenue or cut government spending to reduce the deficit (which he said he would do) at the townhall meeting and he couldn't give me a straight answer. All he said was that the economy would recover, and something about "having a discussion about making tough choices". All the while he was touting the big government spending programs he was working on.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
So he gave you an answer. It isn't his fault you're too dense or too stubborn
to comprehend the answer he gave you. If you don't like or are too stupid to understand the answers, don't ask the questions.

Although:
You seem like the kind of asshole who, if he doesn't get the answer he wants, will claim the person didn't answer the question. I'm willing to bet that's what happened.

"But, when it comes to voting, when we only have two choices, you've got to grow up and realize there's a big difference between a disappointing friend and a deadly enemy" - Bill Maher


[ Parent ]
I've been to several meetings with Bennet
He gives answers. Sometimes the answer is "I don't know the answer to that, but it is important that we figure it out."

[ Parent ]
Personally what I like to hear from potential politicians is
"here's what's wrong, and here's my plan to fix it".

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
Great!
Light a fire under your fellow Republicans, will you BJ?

Because I haven't heard the second part of that from a single one of them.

Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno


[ Parent ]
That's exactly why it's so important
that grassroots candidates who take the time to visit people all across the state and listen to their concerns, like Ken Buck, get nominated. The establishment didn't have a plan; the Tea Party does.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
That's exactly why it's so important
that grassroots candidates who take the time to visit people all across the state and listen to their concerns, like Ken Buck, get nominated. The establishment didn't have a plan; the Tea Party does.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
He wanted to hear that we will get rid of every Fed program
and make Colorado pay for it:Mr Buck's position.

Colorado can't pay for squat with TABOR, and our Republican friends know it.

judge elected officials by their actions, not by their rhetoric


[ Parent ]
Oh no!
What would we do without government paying for everything? We'd all die!

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
You would for sure
Remind us again where your money comes from?

Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno

[ Parent ]
My hard work.
If the government didn't take so much dang money in taxes, I'm sure I could find employment elsewhere in the private sector. Actually, I could anyway, but I'd like to get a Ph.D. first.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
they pay for roads, police , fire. the military
The next time you need a cop then i'd suggest you not call 911

judge elected officials by their actions, not by their rhetoric

[ Parent ]
Yep, another typical elitist.
It isn't that I couldn't understand the answer; it's that he couldn't understand it. You weren't there I guess; maybe you could find a video or transcript.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
Don't look at the elitist, move along, ma'am
Hey Beej, (Mr. Graduate Student in Mathematics) that within the tea party Republican anti-elite group-think, YOU may well be perceived as part of the "elite."

(But don't worry yourself sick, you won't ever be mistaken for a member of the intellectual elite.)

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." --ChuckieD, 1871


[ Parent ]
If you'd like to become part of the intellectual elite,
I suggest you work on your grammar. What does that first "sentence" mean?

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
It's an inequality
with one misplaced term. I bet you can solve it, Beej.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." --ChuckieD, 1871

[ Parent ]
This one was beyond even me. n/t


"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
Why the fuck would Bennet talk to you?
Why the fuck am * I * even talking to you?

Never mind.  Brain fart.

Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno


[ Parent ]
To his credit,
Bennet does dialogue with those who disagree with him. Unlike you.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
Dialogue is a noun, not a verb
Since we're grammar checking this morning
:)

Its just like Further, but with tax cuts! - Fidel's Dirt Nap

[ Parent ]
Not to side with BJ
But it's either

http://www.merriam-webster.com...

Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno


[ Parent ]
Uggg!
Well, I wronged that, I guess.
Sorry, Beej.

Its just like Further, but with tax cuts! - Fidel's Dirt Nap

[ Parent ]
Actually,
Bennet is still getting paid while campaigning, while Buck is forgoing two months of salary.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

When your job is Senator,
then you have a lot of time off from Senate duties that you get paid for, anyway - something that's not true when you're a DA. Asking Bennet to give up his salary isn't fair.

"Thank you for putting your rank political motives on display." - ArapaGOP

[ Parent ]
It might be fair
If Bennet were actually missing time. But he has a 100% voting record. Not one vote missed.  

[ Parent ]
..and neither did Buck miss any of his responsibilites.


"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
Really, BJ?
You're going to use that argument? So you're saying that Buck's job is essentially meaningless for 133 days a year?

[ Parent ]
He was in constant contact with his office,
and as I recall they got a lot of work done.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
For $180k/year...
... I think the people of Weld County would like someone a little more "hands on" than just keeping in touch. I'd feel that way if we were talking about Denver's DA.

"Thank you for putting your rank political motives on display." - ArapaGOP

[ Parent ]
"as I recall they got a lot of work done"


"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
"They" got a lot of work done.
Can't say the same about Buck.

"Thank you for putting your rank political motives on display." - ArapaGOP

[ Parent ]
"He was in constant contact with the office"
meaning that he was getting a lot of work done, as the head of the department.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
If you've ever run an office...
... you know that it takes more than "being in touch" to accomplish.

"Thank you for putting your rank political motives on display." - ArapaGOP

[ Parent ]
...a fitting testament to the amazing talents of Ken Buck.


"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
LOL!
The only thing I perceive is that the office didn't need him. His entire salary is a waste. Where is the righteous taxpayer outrage?

"Thank you for putting your rank political motives on display." - ArapaGOP

[ Parent ]
The taxpayers were so outraged he got 76% of their vote in the Primary
More than any other Senate candidate in either party got in any other county.

We already know Bennet bought his win - that ability to raise more money is part of why many in our party love him. -DavidThi808
Michael Bennet - ineffective, dishonest and immoral - Democrat for US Senate  


[ Parent ]
So they don't really care about government waste
if a Republican is doing the wasting? That's consistent with the GOP's message during the George W. Bush administration.

"Thank you for putting your rank political motives on display." - ArapaGOP

[ Parent ]
With the population up 30-40 percent and crime down 50% since he has been in office . . .
I think they would cut him, or anybody else, some slack.  He has done a good job for them and they appreciate it.

We already know Bennet bought his win - that ability to raise more money is part of why many in our party love him. -DavidThi808
Michael Bennet - ineffective, dishonest and immoral - Democrat for US Senate  


[ Parent ]
Are those stats accurate?
If so, that's impressive.

"Thank you for putting your rank political motives on display." - ArapaGOP

[ Parent ]
they also have a 100% conviction rate on murder charges since he has been in office


We already know Bennet bought his win - that ability to raise more money is part of why many in our party love him. -DavidThi808
Michael Bennet - ineffective, dishonest and immoral - Democrat for US Senate  


[ Parent ]
Well...
Weld County isn't exactly the nation's murder capitol. How many convictions are we talking about?

"Thank you for putting your rank political motives on display." - ArapaGOP

[ Parent ]
Ari - I don't know but for those that try to portray him as right wing . . .
They prosecuted the first transsexual hate crime in the state and got a murder conviction on that one as well.

Crime was a big problem in Weld county, gangs were a problem and they have brought it under control.  

We already know Bennet bought his win - that ability to raise more money is part of why many in our party love him. -DavidThi808
Michael Bennet - ineffective, dishonest and immoral - Democrat for US Senate  


[ Parent ]
Uh, No.
As someone who lives in Greeley, and knows Ken Buck.  You need to check your facts.

We have a continuing gang problem.  They are not under control.  Congratulating Ken Buck for prosecuting a murder charge is stupid, since that's his f-ing job.

Ken Buck IS a right-wing nutter.  His wife was Dickwad's deputy from 2006-2008.  He hangs around with Jim DeMint, Sean Conway, Scott Renfroe, Dave Schultheiss, Amy Oliver, and such.

To claim he's a reasonable, middle of the road politician is simply stupid.  Hock your wares someplace else.


[ Parent ]
76% is a misleading figure
15,000 out of 125,000 is 12% of the registered voters in Weld Co.  And probably more like 6% of all the citizens.

Nice red herring, though.


[ Parent ]
Sorry, make that $140k/year.
But that  $40k difference doesn't alter my opinion.

"Thank you for putting your rank political motives on display." - ArapaGOP

[ Parent ]
You're just trying to make something out of nothing for political gain, and you know it. n/t


"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
Welcome to politics, kid.
If you don't like it when the Dems do this, be prepared to condemn your side when they do it, too. And they WILL do it.

"Thank you for putting your rank political motives on display." - ArapaGOP

[ Parent ]
At least you admit it.
That's all I'm asking for.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
Then you admit it too? N/T


"Thank you for putting your rank political motives on display." - ArapaGOP

[ Parent ]
That misprint, Ari
is more than my annual Social Security payment, which Buck thinks is too high.

[ Parent ]
Did he get a raise? I thought it was $140K
I know he has been doing a fine job; population growing and crime going down, but did you give him a raise while he was out politicing? :)

We already know Bennet bought his win - that ability to raise more money is part of why many in our party love him. -DavidThi808
Michael Bennet - ineffective, dishonest and immoral - Democrat for US Senate  


[ Parent ]
$140k/yr
For 6 days/ month?
Man, that's a "Sweeeet" deal, to paraphrase Scott McInnis.
:)

Its just like Further, but with tax cuts! - Fidel's Dirt Nap

[ Parent ]
I suppose BJ Lives in Weld Co..
.. and is paying part of Buck's salary so he can campaign?  

I suppose you support his expenditure of more than $100K to prosecute a political expression against Marilyn Musgrave (petty offense in 2006 requiring 2 days of court and 3 deputy DAs)?

Or his abuse of civil rights (when he raided a tax preparer with a shoddy warrant) and his expenditure of large amounts (again $100K+) of county money to argue his case in appeals, which he lost.

Seriously, dude.  You don't have standing to argue against, or on behalf of, Buck's attendance.  

So, kindly, SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP.


[ Parent ]
It was no abuse of civil rights,
it was this crazy liberal court that threw the case, and then only barely. And if you want to talk about the raid, please do. Ken Buck actually did something about illegal immigration instead of using the issue as a political football like so many politicians (ahem, John McCain) do. This is America and I have the right to free speech, so no I won't shut the **** up until these wrongs are remedied.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
Yeah. He did something
OK, what did he do about illegal immigration?  Seriously, BJ, what did he do?

Since 2006, Buck has been using illegal immigration as a political football, designed to put his name into the bigger state/national scene. (Maybe this warrants a diary in the near future).

But, and I'd love links, has he actually done to stop illegal immigration?


[ Parent ]
Lol, did you not read the post above?
The raid found hundreds of stolen social security numbers being used by illegal immigrants.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
Yeah I Read It
But, what did Buck DO with that?

He made mistakes with his warrant application (whether you agree with the court is immaterial), and because of those mistakes he was unable to prosecute any of the people in question.

So, I'll give you, there, that he tried to do something, but that in the end his efforts were unsuccessful.

What has he actually accomplished?


[ Parent ]
Well there's only so much power in the D.A.'s office.
When the crazy liberal supreme court of Colorado stops you, there's not much you can do at that point. At least he tried to do everything he could, showing that he will continue to do so in the future if elected.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
when the "crazy liberal supreme court of Colorado" stops you,
you're operating outside the law.

Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno

[ Parent ]
No, you're probably operating inside it,
they just found a way to reinterpret it in order to stop you. Hence the need for Clear the Bench Colorado.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
You don't much like the Constitution
in my country, do you Beej? DO you have a Constitution in your country too?

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." --ChuckieD, 1871

[ Parent ]
Oviously you're misunderstaning me.
I support the Constitution, which is why I oppose attempts to undermine it.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
Clearly not.
It's apparent you don't have the foggiest idea of what the Constitution says and means . . .

Carry on, carry on . . . nothing to see here.

Discipline without purpose is tyranny.


[ Parent ]
So, nothing?
Ken Buck has done nothing about illegal immigration.

[ Parent ]
He did a raid.
What part of that do you not understand? What has Obama done about illegal immigration? What has Bennet done about illegal immigration? Heck, Hickenlooper has encouraged it by declaring Denver a sanctuary city, meaning we don't follow the law. How's that for liberals reinterpreting the law?

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
Could you remind us, Beej
Just where can we find this declaration?
... Hickenlooper has encouraged it by declaring Denver a sanctuary city ...


"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." --ChuckieD, 1871

[ Parent ]
...implicitly.
http://coloradopols.com/diary/...

Despite ColoradoPols attempt to pass this off, the fact remains that Hickenlooper hasn't had the best record on illegal immigration.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle


[ Parent ]
OK, BJ You crossed a line
A grammatical line.

Declaration (as in "declaring Denver a sanctuary city") is the opposite of implication (as in "...implicitly").

What a f**king tool!


[ Parent ]
Whatever,
it's a sanctuary city, and that's his responsibility, semantics aside.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
Brilliant!
Beej links to a story about how Denver is NOT a "sanctuary city" under Hickenlooper as evidence "supporting" The Beej's claim of the opposite.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." --ChuckieD, 1871

[ Parent ]
Politicians run for office while we pay their salary
That's the system we have. D.A. Ken Buck runs for Senate and we Dems are offended that he still collects his salary. D.A. Stan Garnett runs for A.G. and we Dems are fine with that. Flip it for the Republicans.

What really matters is are they still putting the appropriate level of effort into their day job. I think by any standard Bennet has put more than the appropriate time into his Senate work.

But Buck and Frazier... I think both need to speak to the specifics raised here. And I think the voters should take this into account.

Where all the cool kids will be on Saturday - Code War!


Buck has put plenty of time into his job.


"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
How much time has Garnett missed?
It's a fair question.

"Thank you for putting your rank political motives on display." - ArapaGOP

[ Parent ]
David, the voters did take that into account.
Buck received 76% or the Weld county vote in the Senate primary.  I believe that is a higher percentage than any other Senate candidate received in any other county in the primary.

We already know Bennet bought his win - that ability to raise more money is part of why many in our party love him. -DavidThi808
Michael Bennet - ineffective, dishonest and immoral - Democrat for US Senate  


[ Parent ]
Buck got 14,000+ votes
Which is roughly 12% of the registered voters in the County.  I am not sure how the number of votes he got in a partisan primary relates to the number of days he took off to campaign.

I'd argue that Buck's win margin (less than 76%) when he ran unopposed for re-election in 2008 says more about his DA job performance than his unrelated primary win.  Incidentally, he got 73,949 of 105,866 votes (69.8%).  Even running unopposed, he couldn't get 70% support in Weld Co.

Either way, the logic that the two things are related is flawed.


[ Parent ]
DLOF - you are way off, Buck got 14,000 + more votes than Norton in Weld County


We already know Bennet bought his win - that ability to raise more money is part of why many in our party love him. -DavidThi808
Michael Bennet - ineffective, dishonest and immoral - Democrat for US Senate  


[ Parent ]
I was wrong
Weld co vote: Buck 14,555 ; Norton 4,401.
That is 76.7% of the vote.

We already know Bennet bought his win - that ability to raise more money is part of why many in our party love him. -DavidThi808
Michael Bennet - ineffective, dishonest and immoral - Democrat for US Senate  


[ Parent ]
CPols: "In the month of July alone, Buck missed 25 days of work."
.
one tiny problem with that: In the month of July, there were only 21 work days:
1, 2,
6, 7, 8, 9,
12, 13, 14, 15, 16,
19, 20, 21, 22, 23,
26, 27, 28, 29 & 30.  
.

I have to say
that is one good catch. Kind of like learning about fonts from stuff sent to a journalist.

Good job Barron


[ Parent ]
thnx
.
Most "facts" bandied about, I got no idea whether they're true or not, but at least I can check this.
.

[ Parent ]
good get and kind of funny


We already know Bennet bought his win - that ability to raise more money is part of why many in our party love him. -DavidThi808
Michael Bennet - ineffective, dishonest and immoral - Democrat for US Senate  


[ Parent ]
So essentially
the guy spent the whole month campaigning.

Cut it anyway you want but it makes Wadhams complaining about Joe Garcia look really petty.


[ Parent ]
Also true and no doubt what prompted this attack
on Buck and Frazier

[ Parent ]
I have no problem believing that Buck
worked a negative four days in July;-)

[ Parent ]
would that involve a discontinuity in the space-time continuum ?


[ Parent ]
Like the red queen, Barron
I can believe six impossible things before breakfast.  Is there such a thing as negative overtime in the National Labor Relations Act?  Minus time and a half when you're campaigning?

[ Parent ]
Good point
Maybe he was supposed to be working on some weekend days that he took off?  

[ Parent ]
maybe if, as a DA, he's considered "Law Enforcement,"
.
he's supposed to be on duty 24/7/365,

whereas a US Senator is supposed to work 6 hours a day, 2 or 3 days a week (Tuesday morning - Thursday morning,) 30 weeks per year.  Nice job, if you can get it.  
.


[ Parent ]
Fact Check:
There are only 21 total business days in July 2010.  

The funniest thing about this whole issue . . .
. . . it was Dickwad Hams, good old Mr. GOP Strategist (and the Democrats newest BFF), that opened this whole can of worms this election cycle with his letter calling for the resignation of Joe Garcia from CSU-Pueblo.

That's just one more torpedo right through the bow of the GOP ship of state, fired by Ensign 'Hams.  (Apparently Dickwad didn't realize that you want to have the pointy-end of that thing facing away from your own boat.)

Don't believe everything you think.


But they're both Republicans, so . . .
they are only HELPING government by doing nothing, which is, after all, the apparent goal of the GOP . . .  

Discipline without purpose is tyranny.

But couldn't they do that for free?
n/t

Its just like Further, but with tax cuts! - Fidel's Dirt Nap

[ Parent ]
A Republican?
Doing something for free?

Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno

[ Parent ]
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