To PAC or Not To PAC

Bravo!

Unless we are going to make the rules the same for everyone, this is a good plan.
Can I come to your party next time you run?  Sounds like a blast!  ; )

Buck Stops Here.

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by: peacemonger @ Sun Mar 21, 2010 at 05:26:36 AM UTC

If only politicians lived by that phrase

I know the Bennet camp wants to say he can take all that money and it doesn't influence him, but it's just not true.

Bennet votes against homeowners and for big banks on cramdown at the same time he took a half million from the banking lobby.  It was only once Andrew got into this race did Bennet suddenly decide he was a populist candidate.

Sorry Michael Bennet, but I'm a real person too

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by: StrykerK2 @ Sun Mar 21, 2010 at 05:55:33 AM UTC

I disagree

But you Romanoff folks like to think Andrew has passed the public option and Bennet is now a commie pink because Andrew is in the race.

UGH  :Eyeroll: Get over yourselves.  

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by: TheDeminator @ Sun Mar 21, 2010 at 06:36:40 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

I read this as

"commie pink eye."

That sounds like an awful disease, let me tell you.  

I knew a stripper named Skyler once.  --TaxCheatGeithner

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by: Skyler @ Sun Mar 21, 2010 at 22:55:02 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

cramdown

It's really the only one ya got, isn't it?

There are dozens of times that as a Senator, with PAC contributions, Senator Bennet came out in opposition to those same contributors' positions.

And you have one time, one vote, he said something that makes you think it he did it for the the banks.  One?  

C"mon if he's the king of all PAC contributions, even in Colorado ( he's not , he's dead last - except for Polis who self funded)  surely there must be a bread crumb trail. There must be more than one vote one time.  

The hard reality is even for that one vote, his reasoning was sound. Why don't you explain his reasoning and then make the argument that it was a bad vote.
Go ahead, build a campaign on that one vote.  But while you are doing that, look at hard at Congresswoman DeGette's voting history. And let me know when Andrew is going to primary her and trash her significantly higher percentage of PAC contributions.

Hell, look at Andrew's own voting history in Colorado. And let us know whether or not you support every vote, every statement, every action he took as an elected official. And his higher percentage of PAC contributions.
 

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by: MADCO @ Sun Mar 21, 2010 at 15:32:41 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Health care vote, too, MADCO

MADCO, you are forgetting there is one other vote Romanoff would have done differently.

He would have voted against health care on Christmas Eve (it would have only taken one Senator, you know).

Never mind that taking down health care would have been exactly what the insurance lobby would have wanted.

And never mind that if Romanoff was in the Senate and if he had voted health care down, there would have been no Senate bill for the House to pass last night and for President Obama to sign into law.

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by: botw @ Mon Mar 22, 2010 at 15:37:45 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Romanoff voting no on health care

Dude/ette thatis such a false choice.

He said he would have voted against the process (back room deals and such) and would have started with single payer, thus ensuring that there would have been a better bill, and that by inventing the time machine he would win a Nobel prize.

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by: MADCO @ Mon Mar 22, 2010 at 18:34:01 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

JEEZHUSSS, Stryker...

Get some new talking points, will you?  We've already proved these wrong a thousand times.

Buck Stops Here.

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by: peacemonger @ Mon Mar 22, 2010 at 03:45:08 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

did you now?

Do you have some knowledge that Bennet didn't vote in favor of big banks and against homeowners peacemonger?  Because the correlation between money from industry and votes for that industry/against average people is pretty clear here.

Sorry Michael Bennet, but I'm a real person too

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by: StrykerK2 @ Mon Mar 22, 2010 at 04:02:55 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

one time.

one vote.

can you deconstruct Bennet's logic on cramdown?
And then explain why you thought it was a bad vote?

Don't bother with the legislative analysis- his vote was meaningless when it came to passing or not- it missed by more than five.

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by: MADCO @ Mon Mar 22, 2010 at 04:21:40 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

by the way

According to the FDIC and most consumer groups, the most effective legislation that has prevented foreclosure and led to more homeowners staying in their homes have been state laws (Maryland, California, Illinois, Georgia and one or two others.) not federal.
What did Andrew do in Colorado when it came to banking and bankruptcy prevention?

- he regulated pay day lenders?    no
- he toughened Colorado law on the types of mortgages allowed like Texas, Pennsylvania and Maryland?  no
- he made mortgage brokers get fingerprinted and post a bond  yes.

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by: MADCO @ Mon Mar 22, 2010 at 04:24:59 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

the equation

there are three senators in colorado
1) Mark Udall
2) Pre-Primary Michael Bennet
3) Post-Primary Michael Bennet

Senator #2 voted as along conservative democratic lines and thought public option was good, but 'did not want to draw lines in the sand' or 'think it would pass', voted against people negotiating their mortgages, against wall street reform, and was the 5th overall receiver of wall st. money

Senator #3
is doing all he can to save his seat.

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by: wade norris @ Mon Mar 22, 2010 at 07:47:06 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

Romanoff

Has had trouble raising money and accepted pac money until recently. His no pac money stand is no more than a gimmick.  

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by: denverco @ Mon Mar 22, 2010 at 11:39:23 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

Doesn't stick, Wade.

Cause there is this pesky little thing called the Congressional voting record that proves you are WRONG. Check it out.

http://projects.washingtonpost...

Buck Stops Here.

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by: peacemonger @ Mon Mar 22, 2010 at 14:23:11 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Doesn't stick, Wade.

Cause there is this pesky little thing called the Congressional voting record that proves you are WRONG. Check it out.

http://projects.washingtonpost...

Buck Stops Here.

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by: peacemonger @ Mon Mar 22, 2010 at 14:23:16 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Just noticed. ...

Michael Bennet has voted with the Dems 91.3% of the time.  Watch it go up when he, from Ted Kennedy's HELP committee seat, votes for the health care reconciliation bill, next week.  Notice he has missed 0 votes -- he just LOVES TO VOTE FOR PROGRESSIVE THINGS TO MAKE YOU WRONG, WADE.  

Buck Stops Here.

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by: peacemonger @ Mon Mar 22, 2010 at 14:51:21 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Just noticed. ...

Michael Bennet has voted with the Dems 91.3% of the time.  Watch it go up when he, from Ted Kennedy's HELP committee seat, votes for the health care reconciliation bill, next week.  Notice he has missed 0 votes -- he just LOVES TO VOTE FOR PROGRESSIVE THINGS TO MAKE YOU WRONG, WADE.  

Buck Stops Here.

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by: peacemonger @ Mon Mar 22, 2010 at 14:51:28 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

This line of argument has been thoroughly debunked

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by: botw @ Mon Mar 22, 2010 at 15:40:22 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Throwing stones

at a solidly built structure from a flimsy glass house may make you feel good, Wade, but it only hastens the shattering of your delusions.

You're doing Andrew more harm than good. You have been all along.

We're all in this story together: Let's make sure that we write it well.
http://www.steveharveyforcolor...

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by: Steve Harvey @ Mon Mar 22, 2010 at 15:42:56 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Are you trying to change the subject off of Romanoff's legislative record. or lack of when it comes to foreclosure protection?

I think you posted in the wrong place.

You can go right on thinking the primary moved Senator Bennet wayyyy left. I don't see it, but ok.

One vote, one time.
I'm glad the health care bill passed and will get signed. I wish it had Medicare buy-in. I wish it had a public option. I wish it had a lot of things.  But I'm glad it passed. Aren't you?

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by: MADCO @ Mon Mar 22, 2010 at 18:42:03 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

voted ... against wall street reform/// lie or mistake?

from AP today

WASHINGTON - Republicans abandoned hope of altering Wall Street legislation in a key Senate committee on Monday, clouding prospects for a bipartisan bill and leaving the fight for the full Senate.

There hasn't been a vote on wall street reform yet.

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by: MADCO @ Mon Mar 22, 2010 at 19:55:58 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Wade is psychic ( or maybe psycho )

He is now predicting future votes.

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by: denverco @ Mon Mar 22, 2010 at 21:05:35 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

To quote sxp

quoting Inigo Montoya, "I do no' think that word ('correlation') means what you think it means."

We're all in this story together: Let's make sure that we write it well.
http://www.steveharveyforcolor...

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by: Steve Harvey @ Mon Mar 22, 2010 at 04:37:18 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

Or

commie pinko lol

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by: TheDeminator @ Sun Mar 21, 2010 at 06:37:01 AM UTC