El Paso County's Utterly Useless Legislators

Waste

Not only is this wasteful from a political standpoint, drafting and running these bills costs money. Good thing Colorado has lots of wiggle room in the budge this year...  Oh wait....

"the Constitution has also become outdated in many respects and needs to be revised--and possibly rewritten from scratch!" --JO

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by: Aggie @ Mon Feb 08, 2010 at 10:17:50 AM CST

Never mind the Glenn Beck gold bubble

Glenn Beck and his band of paranoid schizophrenics drove the price of gold through the stratosphere, but it's now backsliding like an LA McMansion in a rain storm.

Non impediti ratione cogitationis.

"Some of the people that wanted to engage me in conversation appeared to have been the losers in the 'Are you smarter than Michele Bachmann contest?'." --Rep. Barney Frank

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by: ThillyWabbit @ Mon Feb 08, 2010 at 10:42:31 AM CST

Not "utterly useless"

They have entertainment value.
Especially Dave Schultheis.

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by: davebarnes @ Mon Feb 08, 2010 at 11:08:11 AM CST

Waste of time

I've worked with drafters on bills from Legal Services and I can tell you they are hard working people (paid by the taxpayers) whose time should not be wasted.

Lambert and Schultheis lead the charge in decrying government waste, yet they waste the drafters time (and taxpayer's money) with frivolous bills.

I was raised a Presbyterian so I can assure you Dave Schultheis' "Presbyterian faith" is his personal representation of Presbyterianism and not that of the mainstream laity.  

"There is no question that western Pennsylvania is a racist area"
Congressman John Murtha, PA 12th CD, 1932-2010
Medical care by the best health care system in the world.

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by: allyncooper @ Mon Feb 08, 2010 at 11:14:02 AM CST

When you don't have any real solutions

you are reduced to continuing the culture wars and retaining power through fear of the "other".

The ultimate irony in all this is that these Colorado Springs Republicans who hate government to the max live in a town that is totally sustained by government expenditures on the military industrial complex.  Colorado Springs would be a much smaller town if the big government military and all those paychecks went away.  How ironic they run against wasteful government spending when they are the prime beneficiaries of government cornucopia military spending.

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by: Gilpin Guy @ Mon Feb 08, 2010 at 12:01:02 PM CST

"El Paso County's Utterly Useless Legislators"

You guys are so transparent. What a joke this site has become. Bash the Springs continually because they are basically right leaning.

ColPols used to be somewhat left, but now it is nothing more than a sandbox for wacko liberals to point at the other side in a vain attempt to make their tired Socialist agenda look better.
What these legislators have or have not done is not my point. My point is you, ColPols have sunk to the bottom of the pit. Ever try being fair and balanced? Or is that a concept that extreme lefties can't fathom?

I'm  done here
Gecko

NoBama .... NoBamaCare either

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by: Gecko @ Mon Feb 08, 2010 at 12:40:47 PM CST

Bubye little lizard

n/t

When I use lots of words, they always form an analysis (and, while producing high volume, also produce high information-density).
--Steve Harvey, 2009

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by: Ralphie @ Mon Feb 08, 2010 at 12:45:26 PM CST

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Your substantive, informative, critical analysis, along with

your abundance of creative problem solving efforts that would result in a more perfect union will be sorely missed.

"In short, we eat oil" ardy39

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by: Sir Robin @ Mon Feb 08, 2010 at 12:46:06 PM CST

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Are the facts relevant?

Because if you want the story to be "balanced" by saying the legislators aren't that useless, shouldn't there be evidence that they're not?

And if you want to argue bias, shouldn't you say something like, "Actually what you said is not true."

If you see a traffic sign that indicates "The left lane is for turning left only," do you also consider it to be biased toward Socialism?

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by: sxp151 @ Mon Feb 08, 2010 at 12:46:54 PM CST

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And all this fair and balanced outrage

is coming from a fool who gets his news from Fox?  Talk about the kettle calling the pot black.

You gotta love this bit of logic:

What these legislators have or have not done is not my point.

Like dude that is the whole point of the post and it comes from a Colorado Springs newspaper.  What lizard brain doesn't want to talk about is the uselessness of anyone who comes out of bipolar Colorado Springs where government is king and reviled all at the same time.

Don't worry folks.  We still have GOPWeenie and tabpole to tell us that we are bad people and they wouldn't associate with us except to tell us that and they know we are bad because they said so.  There's some real conservative logic for you.

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by: Gilpin Guy @ Mon Feb 08, 2010 at 13:18:16 PM CST

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...they know we are bad because they said so...

Me thinks think you give them too much credit for independent thought.

Libby's reptilian brain doesn't go much beyond ctrl-C ctrl-V.

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by: ajb @ Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 09:47:56 AM CST

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So give us facts

When has Schultheis ever had a bill pass, or at least make it out of committee?

Try using reason instead of screaming "leftie, pinko, commie, socialist" all the time.  

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." - Christopher Hitchens

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by: Cartesian Doubt @ Mon Feb 08, 2010 at 21:56:11 PM CST

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Nothing wrong with introducing legislation that won't pass.

This is in the fine English tradition of the "shadow cabinet."  One way to make the case that you should be elected the next time around is to show voters what kind of legislation you would have passed if you were in power.

The problem here is not that Colorado Springs legislators are introducing legislation that won't pass.  It is that Colorado Springs legislators are offering stupid legislation that won't pass.  

Gold backed savings accounts stored at the state capitol are stupid in multiple ways.  First, the gold standard isn't a hot issue with anyone but conspiracy theorists anymore.  Second, insisting on putting real gold bars in the security challenged state capitol rather than, for example, taking receipts for gold bars stored in the U.S. Mint (where the U.S. government does store gold bars for use in currency transactions) is expensive misguided paranoia.  Third, the law is probably pre-empted by federal law which narrowed the authority of non-mint entities to issue dollar denominated, gold backed financial instruments.

Similarly, proposing legislation that would be ruled unconstitutional before the ink dried (the abortion ban) also shows a decided indifference to governing.  

In a campaign, any Democrat can explain not supporting this legislation by saying: "I didn't want to waste everyone's time on passing laws that wouldn't make a difference to anyone, I would devote my time to passing laws that have some chance of being held constitutional."  If you think Roe v. Wade is wrong, offer a resolution for a constitutional amendment (which state legislatures can), not a proposal for a law that won't be upheld.

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by: ohwilleke @ Mon Feb 08, 2010 at 16:37:39 PM CST