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Stop Messing Around in Our State

by: Pam Bennett

Sat Jan 09, 2010 at 07:01:35 AM MST


What is it about Colorado that makes Obama/Emmanuel/? so ready to want to take over and run our Democratic Party and state?  I know Obama had the stage at Mile High Stadium for an hour, but that did not give him the keys to  777 Santa Fe.  He is as nice a guy as I've almost run in to, a fact he established after he and I almost ran into each other a couple of years ago; literally ran into each other in a hall way when we were not looking where we were going, and his Secret Service agent was laughing at us as we excused ourselves from near disaster.  

So far Obama has gotten his choice of a Senator, but he has not stopped there.  With Ritter heading to the "Former Gov's" portrait and plaque lounge we have a lot of drama and fun of speculating who from a good half dozen qualified Democratic Party members will pick up the tee and plant it in the box for the next hole (See I can do sports talk too).  But right from the start we have been smothered with ". . . the White House would like . . ." talk.

First we have the White House stepping in to take our elected Senator from us.  It was K. Salazar whom the White House took for Interior Sec. A great move, Ken Salazar will be one of the best of the Interior Secretary's  .   Which set up Bennet becoming the appointed Senator replacing Salazar. I would rather be a Senator than an Education Sec. any day myself (that is spelled Bennett).  It is a guaranteed lifelong job, unless someone who has faced election and public office and was the Speaker of the House, such as Romanoff, decides to let the good voters of Colorado have a choice.  That really upset the White House and the 100 most powerful men in the country.  

Pam Bennett :: Stop Messing Around in Our State
Now with K. Salazar saying no thanks even after the White House blessing of him to run for gov., we have several more qualified candidates to go.  For some reason Hickenlooper is high on the list and now we have ". . . the White House would like . . ." talk once again.  Did Obama enjoy a locally brewed beer while cooling down after a great acceptance speech?  Was it something about trying to spell Romanoff or Perlmutter that caused the White House to decide on Hickenlooper?
I am guessing that the White House is really PO'd that Romanoff has not been scared off by the Prez blessing Bennet as our Senator (a choice not one of us voted on).  So there is no "We like Andrew" placard in the White House window.

Why is the Obama/Emmanuel/? group trying to interfere in our elections again?  And speculating, something Colorado Pols  occupants do with gusto, why hasn't the Prez declared our state a blight and appointed someone?  That would solve the problem of the pesky voters getting in the way of who the White House really wants to be gov.

Personally I would like to have a candidate announce that SHE or he would run for the gov's office before the White House decides who will be our next governor.   I also would like to vote for that person without interference from Easterners or others messing around in our elections.  And, finally I would also like to point out that Colorado has a lot of women politicians in office.  All the way from "dog catcher" to Treasurer and almost 40% of the General Assembly are women.  

I want to vote for who represents me and Colorado and not have appointed and anointed politicos doing the job.  

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From whence cometh...
...these supposed White House preferences?

None of us believes everything others type, on this site or elsewhere, and that includes "the White House would like...."--a sentiment that seems to change by the hour!

Clearly there has been--and will continue to be--a string of sycophantic comments posted here that try to confer the blessings of the White House on one possible candidate, then another. Whether there is any substance to these remarks is questionable, even doubtful! When I see Barack Obama stand up and bless one specific candidate by name, then I'll believe it. Not until then.

At this stage, the "White House prefers..." is much more along the lines of an unsubstantiated rumor mill that, in one case, is intended partly to obscure the long string of contributions from corporate interests eager to buy off the unelected Democrat temporarily filling one of CO's Senate seats. No one who's serious about advancing the cause of the Democratic Party does, or should, take such unsubstantiated rumor-mongering seriously.

Which brings me to the subject of primaries. Good idea or bad? Whatever campaigning takes place for the senate nomination -- and, for that matter, the gubernatorial nomination -- is not all to the bad. Au contraire! A primary is a good warmup for the general election and puts the eventual winner in the news spotlight weeks before interest becomes widespread in the November election. If skeletons are brought into the daylight, better that it happen before the nominee is chosen than afterwards! The eventual winner of a primary will be the strongest candidate for the general, having had weeks of practice. Those primary messages can, and do, have an impact on the general.


Primaries
Primaries are good (sometimes).  Look at how Bennet has been shifting to the center (still far from being a Progressive Dem) from the pro-business side and came out with the he does not care if he is not reelected because of his liking "public option".  

It will be interesting to see who if anybody decides to go for Gov. I would like to have the vetting process done here in Colorado, not by what the White House "prefers".

OBTW, as a politician I would prefer to run without anybody else opposing me, including my own party.  

In a democracy, the majority of the citizens is capable of exercising the most cruel oppressions upon the minority. Edmund Burke

10/26/11 Colorado Ex-Pat; S/V Sisu Catalina 30


[ Parent ]
HI Pam
Andrew is more conservative than Bennet. Andrew is a DLC man of the year. His record sucks on immigration. His supporters suggest that he's progresive, but are delusional. He plays plausible deniability when paid staff members lie about Sen. Bennet's record.

He's vulnerable in ways I won;t mention becuase I've been asked to leave him alone.

If he costs the state the  Senate seat ,then his career is over.

He should try to get on the ticket as LT.Gov, the job he originally wanted.

judge elected officials by their actions, not by their rhetoric


[ Parent ]
I agree with Ray.
Andrew is more conservative than Bennet in several ways.  

Buck Stops Here.

[ Parent ]
Addendum
Seems the Post is reporting that Obama called Hickenlooper on Friday encouraging him to run.

Obama, as leader of the Democratic Party, clearly has an interest in keeping the state house in Democratic hands during the year of redistricting. Whether that means that Colorado Democrats should automatically go along w/ his preferences is an entirely different matter!


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Hi there
I don't "automatically" do anything, and I find the inference that I do rather offensive.

That said, I happen to agree with Obama's opinion regarding both Hickenlooper and Senator Bennet, on the well-studied merits. If you are willing to accept the possibility of my agreement with Obama being legitimate, and not debased intellectually ipso facto or whatever, I might be willing to have a conversation with you about it.

As it is, your childish presuppositions about those who disagree with you make the prospect of a conversation uninteresting to me.

Yo quiero gobierno medio!


[ Parent ]
Pffft.
A short version of your diary the other day: You fools, vote my way, think my way,  and shut up!

And my version of what you wrote is more civil than a more accurate version would be.


[ Parent ]
"dfarrah" what does that stand for anyway?


[ Parent ]
Well said.
I agree.

Discipline without purpose is tyranny.

[ Parent ]
What tripe!
You're complaining about the White House's caring about what happens in Colorado?  Much better to be ignored, huh?  Every person who runs or doesn't run for office ultimately makes the decision for himself or herself.  Whether or not others, including the White House, support that decision is also their choice.  I think your whining about other people's choices is much ado about what's been going on forever in electoral politics, and should be going on forever.  

Your views are provincial to the extreme.

I'm not as sweet as I used to be.


Homie
Yeah, I am a homie - I like to have Colorado people run Colorado.

Menudo is good for breakfast too.

In a democracy, the majority of the citizens is capable of exercising the most cruel oppressions upon the minority. Edmund Burke

10/26/11 Colorado Ex-Pat; S/V Sisu Catalina 30


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And your definition of who is "Colorado people" rules.
For example, if Hickenlooper decides to run for office, after being urged to do so by the White House and about a billion people who currently live in Colorado, Hickenlooper would no longer be "Colorado people" in your view?

Ugh, it's too early in the morning for such backwater bemoaning from you.  Pretty soon, you'll be saying that Texas subdivision called Aurora is full of "Colorado people" too!

I'm not as sweet as I used to be.


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More Menudo For Breakfast
Although it is nice to know what Washington thinks, considering we are the time zone that TV forgot and get little recognition otherwise, it has gotten to the point that the "White House prefers/wants/likes" is the story and the potential candidates are not.

Texas is only a few weeks away from being annexed by Aurora because it is a blighted state. Maybe Lend Lease can turn it into a profitable subdivision.

In a democracy, the majority of the citizens is capable of exercising the most cruel oppressions upon the minority. Edmund Burke

10/26/11 Colorado Ex-Pat; S/V Sisu Catalina 30


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Yes, it would be great
....if the potential candidates for Governor were actually a story around here.  But I haven't read a thing about them in the past week.  People really to get to writing and whining about that potential story.  Wake up, people!

I'm not as sweet as I used to be.

[ Parent ]
Ok- the TX as TIF annexable suburb of Aurora is funny

I'm glad Colorado is getting national press. and attention from Washington.  And especially glad it's during a D Presidency and with D Congressional majorities.

Quick - let's redistrict and have a local election...oh.


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Andrew moved here
My good friend John Wren, that was slandered by Cindy Lowery in the Statesman. I've known for longer than Andrew has been in Colorado.

A good number of people in the legislator moved here and have no idea that Dale Tooley ever existed.  

judge elected officials by their actions, not by their rhetoric


[ Parent ]
Now that is an odd comment
I could see the point of it if Andrew were a recent transplant. But in reality he has been here since right after college (just like myself).

So in essence he has the spent the portion of his life where we get to choose our own residence (ie - adulthood) by CHOOSING to live in Colorado. And he worked that entire time in one capacity or another in public service to this state or to his party.

And BTW, he IS quite knowledgable of Colorado's and Denver's history.

Retirement in action does not equal retirement of beliefs.


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Almost . . .
His bio says he spent time teaching English in Costa Rica and Nicaragua, as well taking the time to earn a masters at Harvard.  And he also worked at a private consulting company, so to say he has worked the entire time he's been here in public service to the state or party is not entirely accurate.

Discipline without purpose is tyranny.

[ Parent ]
The point is that I don't care where people come from
I'll Back Andrew for Governor if he runs

judge elected officials by their actions, not by their rhetoric

[ Parent ]
More importantly, who cares whether/when AR moved here?!
I don't.  Ditto for Bennet and anyone else.  It's not as if some magical quality attaches to you based on where you're born! (unless it's Commerce City, of course)

I'm not as sweet as I used to be.

[ Parent ]
Spot on.
Right on.

On and on.


[ Parent ]
Out, damn spot!


I'm not as sweet as I used to be.

[ Parent ]
Damn spot

Hot spot.

Red spot.

Left hand - blue.


[ Parent ]
Sheesh
Somebody help me out, when did Obama become the enemy again?

This isn't adherence to principle, it's simple mindless iconoclasm. WE WON THE ELECTION, remember? You don't have to hate this President!

Yo quiero gobierno medio!


A good rant Pam.......
but this is the way it's always been. Obama is not only president and commander in chief, he's also the head of the national Democratic party. I do think it had been better for him to back off his defacto endorsement of Hickenlooper. But remember, Obama/Emmanuel are from Chicago, and that's the way its done there. That's what they learned, and that's how they operate.

No different than McCain coming out immediately and endorsing Lang Sias in CD7, which smacks of a setup. Ryan Frazier is in the race and got his legs cut out from underneath him. So go figure.

Hickenlooper wouldn't be my first choice for the Dem Gov nomination, AR would be. No doubt he's the best qualified per his proven experience and leadership in the GA. He knows state government.  But unfortunately, he's running for the wrong office.  

It's only class warfare if you fight back


Whats the big deal?
It sounds like the Colorado Dem leadership got together, agreed on an order of asking our top people if they want to run, and Obama then calls to offer support to the one presently at the top of the list.

That's called being supportive. And Obama is probably thrilled that Salazar is staying at DOI, but he didn't try to force that either.

Where all the cool kids will be on Saturday - Code War!


Nice post, Pam...
I entirely disagree with it, but I admire the passion.  

As a native Californian, I'd LOVE the WH to get involved and support someone other than Jerry Brown (the only actual Dem candidate...who, for the record, isn't actually an official candidate yet...) for Gov...but, of course, they won't.  I'd like "Obama/Emmanuel/?" to get involved in what I think could be a handful of competitive congressional races...but, again, they won't.

The "list" here in CO would go the same way with or without "Obama/Emmanuel/?."  KS would be at the top of almost everyone's list, followed by Hick, then Perlmutter and Romanoff/Markey/anyone else.  I'd love to see Kennedy announce her bid for Gov, but regardless of what "Easterners" have to say, she's not at the top of anyone's list, at this point.  Not Hick at least...

But really, good post...I mean that sincerely.


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